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post Jan 14 2014, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jan 13 2014, 11:54 AM)
lol,not my workshop,dun simply take
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no worries~
not urs also nvm la~
bila wa angkat then jus say 'masuk Mahihi's bill saja~' brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Jan 14 2014, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Alphabet Mulia @ Jan 14 2014, 07:11 PM)
today pi servis kereta. 5 jam tunggu..

i asked the sc to rectify my car's problem..

asik berbunyi sebelah pintu passenger..finally, after 5hours, siap.
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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

5 jam??
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jan 14 2014, 07:58 PM)
Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

5 jam??
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ahak2..act 3 hrs only..the othr 2 hrs waiting for my turn..but the services provided are good. this is the third tym i go to the sc..nxt week will claim for my headlamp warranty..both side problem..

btw,anyone here know how much the engine cover? i asked the prson in charge there for quotation. the engine cover cost is rm129 and the bracket is rm52.

i also asked quotation for next major service.. rm470.. include engine oil treatment and balancing.
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post Jan 14 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Jan 14 2014, 06:51 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

most ppl bai car don think how they gonna use the car

only when they go shopping mall / travel then only they figure why my car boot so small

50K price tag for a New Car with boot, 1.6L auto tranny with guranteed low maintenance cost, in my opinion is damn blardy daylight good steal. I can't think of any other model that has a higher value for money than this

deswai I bought it.
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Actually how many pages of the brochure don't matter. Because most ppl just look at the images and glance through the brochure. I had a period training as a showroom guy and 8 out of 10 will still ask you the question which is already in the brochure.

You try ask how many after buy a new car would go and read the whole owners manual...

Majority ppl are just too lazy to read..
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post Jan 14 2014, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jan 14 2014, 09:02 PM)
Actually how many pages of the brochure don't matter. Because most ppl just look at the images and glance through the brochure. I had a period training as a showroom guy and 8 out of 10 will still ask you the question which is already in the brochure.

You try ask how many after buy a new car would go and read the whole owners manual...

Majority ppl are just too lazy to read..
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memang dun matter how many pages.... But when one is paper flyer the other is a proper brochure.....you get the idea la.
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post Jan 14 2014, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jan 14 2014, 08:15 AM)
Tried the Forester liao?
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Haven't tried a URABUS before but would love to if I get the chance nod.gif

QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Jan 14 2014, 06:37 PM)
on a side note, plotong car key designs needs to be changed. .
damn stupid key too fragile.
only 1 screw keeping the whole casing together and you expect the glue on the top part to last for 2 years min ?  blink.gif
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Been using the same key for more than three years and it's still in one piece hmm.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Jan 14 2014, 09:12 AM)
Like it or not, EPS will be widely adopted  unsure.gif

Anyways I have no problems with the Fiesta's EPS, but the same can't be said for my experience with the Accord's, Vios's and especially the Myvi's EPS.

I just hope Proton does a better job at it than Perodua did  doh.gif
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I know EPS being standard is inevitable and I can accept it. I just hope that it's decent in accuracy, weight and feel. A car with a horrible steering is horrible to drive, period. Anyway here's a good article about the Porkshare's "bottom up" EPS system.


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post Jan 14 2014, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jan 14 2014, 06:53 PM)
Hi Bro...  notworthy.gif

Do we really hv that feature in our present Sagas (BLM/FL/FLX/SV)?

Mayb it's such an old (ancient, perhaps) feature that P1 felt not even worth mentioning?
My old old VW 1300 Beetle in the late 60s oledi hv that feature!! whistling.gif
Hi Bro... notworthy.gif
To a discerning buyer, safety features in car they buy means alot nowadays...in view of traffic density & risks on roads... sweat.gif
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hi mr zeone,as i mentioned earlier,its a standard or common,yup in any prtn made car. but in malaysia,the thing still sell by thd feedback cuz we dont really have a strict body to govern on auto related development.

even some r still reluctant to meet unece r94 n 95 rules unless when they release new model or facelift.

thats why when read closely,many new model n facelift,in the report,news especially paultan,u will see the word this car or mpv meet unece r 94 n 95. start with almera n even facelift livina also they mentioned it cuz previously not following the standard :-),being exempted. since last year,it bcnme mandatory. this year,dual airbags.. but i think shud upgrade it. not only airbags,but more than 50 homogolation,then others will have to send their euro version car n engine :-),
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Jan 14 2014, 09:13 PM)
hi mr zeone,as i mentioned earlier,its a standard or common,yup in any prtn made car. but in malaysia,the thing still sell by thd feedback cuz we dont really have a strict body to govern on auto related development.

even some r still reluctant to meet unece r94 n 95 rules unless when they release new model or facelift.

thats why when read closely,many new model n facelift,in the report,news especially paultan,u will see the word this car or mpv meet unece r 94 n 95. start with almera n even facelift livina also they mentioned it cuz previously not following the standard :-),being exempted. since last year,it bcnme mandatory. this year,dual airbags.. but i think shud upgrade it. not only airbags,but more than 50 homogolation,then others will have to send their euro version car n engine :-),
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Many tks, Bro mat79, 4yr kind response 2my post! thumbup.gif

Frankly, me hv read yr posts off & on in here as well as other p1 discussion threads...
May I commend yu 4yr sincere views & comments re probs & issues/items of interest brought up by users/owners of P1 vehicles...
IMHO yu are a rare breed in these modern times & thus is like a fresh breeze rarely experienced fr car makers...

On behalf of all who hv gained fr yr clarifications & "revelations", i TQvM !!
Keep up the good work, pls!!
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post Jan 14 2014, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jan 14 2014, 09:08 PM)
I know EPS being standard is inevitable and I can accept it. I just hope that it's decent in accuracy, weight and feel. A car with a horrible steering is horrible to drive, period. Anyway here's a good article about the Porkshare's "bottom up" EPS system.
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I guess it's a good thing that, according the mat79, the GSC's EPS is from ZF tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 14 2014, 09:32 PM)
I guess it's a good thing that, according the mat79, the GSC's EPS is from ZF tongue.gif
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Let's hope so brows.gif Porkshare style EPS in Plotong brows.gif
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post Jan 14 2014, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 14 2014, 09:07 PM)
memang dun matter how many pages.... But when one is paper flyer the other is a proper brochure.....you get the idea la.
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I remember in Italy the F430 "brochure" was a piece of color paper front and back printing only. Hahahahaha tongue.gif

I must say that it was the Japanese brochure that is the amazing ones. I need to ask my brother where all the brochures went and bring it to show u guys during TT. I also have the DVD brochure for the R35
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post Jan 14 2014, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jan 14 2014, 10:03 PM)
Let's hope so brows.gif Porkshare style EPS in Plotong brows.gif
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New badge for Proton GSC brows.gif

LOTUS
RIDE & HANDLING
(PORSCHE STEERING)
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post Jan 14 2014, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 14 2014, 10:15 PM)
New badge for Proton GSC  brows.gif

LOTUS
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post Jan 14 2014, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 14 2014, 10:15 PM)
New badge for Proton GSC  brows.gif

LOTUS
RIDE & HANDLING
(PORSCHE STEERING)
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Slogan must change

"Its even simpler'' doh.gif

Design using MS Excel... rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 14 2014, 11:11 PM

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208 gti mia EPS more epic... whistling.gif
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post Jan 14 2014, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Jan 14 2014, 11:11 PM)
208 gti mia EPS more epic... whistling.gif
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I almost know what you are trying to say unsure.gif
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Jan 14 2014, 05:37 PM)
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their marketing is just terribad, period.
most of their preve/suprima good marketing is on really low view count youtube links; MANY people DO NOT KNOW how good a preve/suprima s is and it is proton's job as a car maker to spread that awareness. else how would they SELL Their cars?

there's a difference between good criticism and a bad one, i hope you know how to differentiate them smile.gif


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QUOTE(mat79 @ Jan 14 2014, 06:11 PM)

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anyways i have already sent Proton an email requesting for a test session for their GSC laugh.gif

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 14 2014, 06:31 PM)
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quick summary of my experience
- mom bought brand new iswara until now, so far so good. sure, lotsa break downs/bad experience, but its a car that's been carrying my mom/myself/my family/my friends everywhere, from penang to Singapore 14 years non stop.

sure, the full/high end/premium spec way back then during 1999 for around 50k was a kick in the face considering the problems the car gave, but hey over 14 years, i think it more than paid itself.

if anything, the experience of having a small plastic silver cup and knowing that my car is a little faster than your average cars does give me a sense of pride and satisfaction wink.gif

- fast forward to the proton inspira i just got 25 days ago... not problem free also. got this stupid whining sound whenever i speed over 160km/h:

however other than that (and some minor dashboard and a-pillar rattles/noises), i love the car a LOT.
so much it only took me 20 days to perform my first 1k km service, WITHOUT any long distance driving at all biggrin.gif

to be honest, what's to hate about proton? If anything, i'd hate our politicians/government/cronies that are pulling the strings behind Proton but that's an entirely different matter to discuss.

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oh ya, about 1-2 years back i vowed to never buy a proton again and are only looking at the likes of Honda Civic/Ford focus.

many things happened (wanting a manual transmission being the most prominent) and i still ended up with a Proton laugh.gif

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jan 14 2014, 09:02 PM)
You try ask how many after buy a new car would go and read the whole owners manual...

Majority ppl are just too lazy to read..
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i read most of the chapters (about half the book) of my owner's manual

and i even read the service manual (for iswara, basically the lancer fiore/colt reference, AFAIK proton didn't disclose; also gotten the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer manual which is a huge 300-400MB stack of PDF files tongue.gif) to understand my car(s) better.

but yea, i'm like the rare minority lol.



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