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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V57, Nothing to see here...

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post Jan 14 2014, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 14 2014, 10:15 PM)
New badge for Proton GSC  brows.gif

LOTUS
RIDE & HANDLING
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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 14 2014, 10:15 PM)
New badge for Proton GSC  brows.gif

LOTUS
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Slogan must change

"Its even simpler'' doh.gif

Design using MS Excel... rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 14 2014, 11:11 PM

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208 gti mia EPS more epic... whistling.gif
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post Jan 14 2014, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Jan 14 2014, 11:11 PM)
208 gti mia EPS more epic... whistling.gif
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I almost know what you are trying to say unsure.gif
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Jan 14 2014, 05:37 PM)
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their marketing is just terribad, period.
most of their preve/suprima good marketing is on really low view count youtube links; MANY people DO NOT KNOW how good a preve/suprima s is and it is proton's job as a car maker to spread that awareness. else how would they SELL Their cars?

there's a difference between good criticism and a bad one, i hope you know how to differentiate them smile.gif


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QUOTE(mat79 @ Jan 14 2014, 06:11 PM)

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anyways i have already sent Proton an email requesting for a test session for their GSC laugh.gif

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 14 2014, 06:31 PM)
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quick summary of my experience
- mom bought brand new iswara until now, so far so good. sure, lotsa break downs/bad experience, but its a car that's been carrying my mom/myself/my family/my friends everywhere, from penang to Singapore 14 years non stop.

sure, the full/high end/premium spec way back then during 1999 for around 50k was a kick in the face considering the problems the car gave, but hey over 14 years, i think it more than paid itself.

if anything, the experience of having a small plastic silver cup and knowing that my car is a little faster than your average cars does give me a sense of pride and satisfaction wink.gif

- fast forward to the proton inspira i just got 25 days ago... not problem free also. got this stupid whining sound whenever i speed over 160km/h:

however other than that (and some minor dashboard and a-pillar rattles/noises), i love the car a LOT.
so much it only took me 20 days to perform my first 1k km service, WITHOUT any long distance driving at all biggrin.gif

to be honest, what's to hate about proton? If anything, i'd hate our politicians/government/cronies that are pulling the strings behind Proton but that's an entirely different matter to discuss.

=edit=
oh ya, about 1-2 years back i vowed to never buy a proton again and are only looking at the likes of Honda Civic/Ford focus.

many things happened (wanting a manual transmission being the most prominent) and i still ended up with a Proton laugh.gif

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jan 15 2014, 03:16 AM
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post Jan 15 2014, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jan 14 2014, 09:02 PM)
You try ask how many after buy a new car would go and read the whole owners manual...

Majority ppl are just too lazy to read..
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i read most of the chapters (about half the book) of my owner's manual

and i even read the service manual (for iswara, basically the lancer fiore/colt reference, AFAIK proton didn't disclose; also gotten the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer manual which is a huge 300-400MB stack of PDF files tongue.gif) to understand my car(s) better.

but yea, i'm like the rare minority lol.


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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jan 14 2014, 10:12 PM)
I must say that it was the Japanese brochure that is the amazing ones. I need to ask my brother where all the brochures went and bring it to show u guys during TT. I also have the DVD brochure for the R35
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being a huge fan of japanese culture (anime, mostly), i have to agree that Japan is probably one of the best countries when it comes to selling.

so much that it sometimes disgusts me sad.gif

and the money i've poured to Japan's economy is quite huge.
imagine a bluray box set costing between 1-1.5k for only 12 episodes of anime.
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and i don't have just one of those cry.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 15 2014, 03:25 AM)
i read most of the chapters (about half the book) of my owner's manual

and i even read the service manual (for iswara, basically the lancer fiore/colt reference, AFAIK proton didn't disclose; also gotten the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer manual which is a huge 300-400MB stack of PDF files tongue.gif) to understand my car(s) better.

but yea, i'm like the rare minority lol.
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Ok now go read your insurance policy sleep.gif
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post Jan 15 2014, 06:29 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 15 2014, 03:14 AM)
quick summary of my experience
- mom bought brand new iswara until now, so far so good. sure, lotsa break downs/bad experience, but its a car that's been carrying my mom/myself/my family/my friends everywhere, from penang to Singapore 14 years non stop.

sure, the full/high end/premium spec way back then during 1999 for around 50k was a kick in the face considering the problems the car gave, but hey over 14 years, i think it more than paid itself.

if anything, the experience of having a small plastic silver cup and knowing that my car is a little faster than your average cars does give me a sense of pride and satisfaction wink.gif

- fast forward to the proton inspira i just got 25 days ago... not problem free also. got this stupid whining sound whenever i speed over 160km/h:

however other than that (and some minor dashboard and a-pillar rattles/noises), i love the car a LOT.
so much it only took me 20 days to perform my first 1k km service, WITHOUT any long distance driving at all biggrin.gif

to be honest, what's to hate about proton? If anything, i'd hate our politicians/government/cronies that are pulling the strings behind Proton but that's an entirely different matter to discuss.

=edit=
oh ya, about 1-2 years back i vowed to never buy a proton again and are only looking at the likes of Honda Civic/Ford focus.

many things happened (wanting a manual transmission being the most prominent) and i still ended up with a Proton laugh.gif
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Standard Plotong reply(which is true cause there's nothing to fix):
a) The car wasn't designed to drive above speed limit
b) Send to SC and ditch the car there if under warranty(after few days collect car and dust, basically he car just left there untouched and the same problem unsolved)
c) The car is a complete imported Lancer, has nothing to do with us. Please blame Mitshi.



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Scientist say the universe is made up of Protons, Neutrons and Electrons. They forgot to mention Morons.

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 14 2014, 06:31 PM)
I'm not saying who is right/wrong. The truth is, Plotong ady made a bad name since 1986. My father first Saga 1300 ady having overheat, melted the radiator within 1 month after purchase. Following by a long haul of aircond fan issue, power window failure issues none stop until car being sold. Ask me, we think that's just bad luck. Bought a lemon unit. So we did it again, another unit at 1989, this time radiator no melt. But the rear wheel bearing was broken prematurely, the whole wheel and brake hub was detached from the rear arm. My dad was still asking, "wah! whose tayar is that ar? Bunga still very deep wor" then only our car sunk. Nonetheless, the well know Powerwindow Rosak Oh Tidak Oh No, so as the later version came with alarm system, central lock system failure, alarm unit cigaoxin midnight sendiri trigger. It was just too awful to own a Plotong back then. We gave them 2nd chance, but they still manage to screw up so badly.

Until we learn it, we spend alot less to purchase used Proton Saga when 1993 the all new Iswara came alive, old 12v Proton Saga price plunge down the drain. We start to get good deals. Buying a 1989 used Saga 1.5s only cost us about 18k back then! WOHOO! Not only we save up the cost of purchasing new car, but the previous owner already dump a huge sum amount i repairing the THEN NEW CAR. Alarm system is after market, power window unit was refurbished, replacement part direct import from Japan Lancer Fiore. Not only that! My house Saga is 1 of the few that has rear power window and Lancer door trim! We've been using that 2nd hand Saga happily ever after because the previous owner already done all the necessary repair to his NEW CAR until the roof start to bubble. Repair, again bubble. Even that we kept the car until 2012, sold the spare part separately for about 3.5k(still worth that much!). Who sei Plotong depreciate fast? Buying a new Plotong yes indeed butt hurt, but are you gonna sell it next year? I definitely not. I'll be the buyer. Buying a lightly used 2nd hand Plotong car is so much fun!

Seriously dude, Plotong even rebadge also can screw up. I'm consider lucky for myself. I've obtained tremendous amount of maintenance knowledge in a bloody Plotong. I can change me own power window motor, so as centre lock actuator. I can do my engine overhaul, should I say thanks to Plotong rebadged Lancer Fiore? Again I shall reemphasize, I don't hate Plotong. If u know me well enough, I'm more of a Plotong fan boy, have been buying Plotong none stop until today, I still have 3 of them running around. My GaGa is 1 of the newest and well behaved car. The Renault Savvy... maintenance cost for the past 1 year has costs the purchase price of the car.

My next target? May be a used Preve?
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post Jan 15 2014, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 15 2014, 03:14 AM)
quick summary of my experience
- mom bought brand new iswara until now, so far so good. sure, lotsa break downs/bad experience, but its a car that's been carrying my mom/myself/my family/my friends everywhere, from penang to Singapore 14 years non stop.

sure, the full/high end/premium spec way back then during 1999 for around 50k was a kick in the face considering the problems the car gave, but hey over 14 years, i think it more than paid itself.

if anything, the experience of having a small plastic silver cup and knowing that my car is a little faster than your average cars does give me a sense of pride and satisfaction wink.gif

- fast forward to the proton inspira i just got 25 days ago... not problem free also. got this stupid whining sound whenever i speed over 160km/h:

however other than that (and some minor dashboard and a-pillar rattles/noises), i love the car a LOT.
so much it only took me 20 days to perform my first 1k km service, WITHOUT any long distance driving at all biggrin.gif

to be honest, what's to hate about proton? If anything, i'd hate our politicians/government/cronies that are pulling the strings behind Proton but that's an entirely different matter to discuss.

=edit=
oh ya, about 1-2 years back i vowed to never buy a proton again and are only looking at the likes of Honda Civic/Ford focus.

many things happened (wanting a manual transmission being the most prominent) and i still ended up with a Proton laugh.gif
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bro, berapa agaknya mileage ur mom's iswara? more than 300k ka?
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 15 2014, 06:17 AM)
Ok now go read your insurance policy sleep.gif
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I got read one but I only understand say 20-30% of it icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 15 2014, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 15 2014, 06:17 AM)
Ok now go read your insurance policy sleep.gif
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only got to read half of it and got bored lol. (mom insurance agent, remember? lol)

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 15 2014, 06:29 AM)
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lol pretty much...

however i somehow managed to convince the manager to get his guys to test (high speed of course lol) alongside with me
just need a weekday off which i think ill be off tomorrow lol

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QUOTE(Alphabet Mulia @ Jan 15 2014, 08:42 AM)
bro, berapa agaknya mileage ur mom's iswara? more than 300k ka?
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it's mine now. just ngam ngam around 300k km
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sien.

tomorrow fix car again.

proton everyday need to fix one.

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I wanna trade in and buy Vios liao
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jan 15 2014, 10:44 AM)
sien.

tomorrow fix car again.

proton everyday need to fix one.

yawn.gif yawn.gif yawn.gif

I wanna trade in and buy Vios liao
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Trading in mine soon. But touchwood nothing need to fix so far. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jan 15 2014, 10:47 AM)
Trading in mine soon. But touchwood nothing need to fix so far.  icon_idea.gif
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buy what car? Vios also ah?

What color u choose?

I like the bronze brown color... hmm.gif


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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jan 15 2014, 10:48 AM)
buy what car? Vios also ah?

What color u choose?

I like the bronze brown color... hmm.gif
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Vios good ma. Got superior performance. 4 Speed. Same 10 years old engine and best of all Fuel Efficient.
Good power to always try to tapau bigger cc cars. whistling.gif

Bronze Brown is nice too. Buy and respray Spoon Yellow outside icon_idea.gif

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