Why this thread is more towards fotile? Bcoz it is a great product as shown and explained here. Many customers bought it, used it, think it is good and feedback here as well. Also because i m using FOTILE that is why when there are any queries, i can take photos or videos to show customers. Most salesperson only sell but never use the product, how would they know the product is good or not?

After so many years, this thread has been 68 pages and there was another Hood & Hob thread v1, discussion for FOTILE for the past 8 - 10 years in Lowyat forum i can say 99% of them are all POSITIVE and customers are satisfied with the product. So, it is proven to be a good product.

If customers wan to know more about other brands i can also provide info but i dont have the time posting for other brands here. Video, photos and texting for Fotile 1 brand alone took me more than 1hour per day or 30 hours per month, i definitely wont have the time to cover all the brands i only cover what i think best that is what i am gonna sell only, which is proven here backed with all the good customers feedback for 8 - 10 years

I have done some study on inner flame as well, got photos and videos but if forumers wanna know more can also drop by my shop ask for zean. I have attached some photos of inner flame as below, can ask me more when u r in my shop

How i compare with other brands? i go to customer place, friends house and etc to test the flame and etc, that is how i gain so much knowledge and comparison for Hood & Hob.

By looking at the catalog spec you wont know how good is the hob until you use it, that is why i took videos of various hobs with different kW output to show this.





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Hello Zheilwane, what is the difference between GCG90301 and GAG86210? From the model number can I say the GAG is the older model as compare to GCG? From fotile website, just the 2 burner hob, there's several model in there....so how do we choose the good one?

, And since you carry both brand, i do believe you have more experience on both.

GDG is the latest model.

GAG is the ongoing model.

Official website provides accurate info.

Browse thru fotile e-catalog for the newest packages.

here is a brief summary. If you are in KL, best to drop by my shop to have a look to compare. Most customers will get GCG once they seen and compared with GAG model.

1 more new added feature of GCG hobs, the base plate is scratch resistant black coated while normal GAG and many brands are stainless steel only.

If you are looking for just strong flame power then GAG is your choice

If you are looking for sufficient strong power, easy to maintain, durable and etc GCG is a better choice. As shown, GCG with only 3.8kW output is stronger than many other brands including inner flame burner.

So, to decide which flame power is suitable for customers, i will ask them what brand they are using now and are they satisfied with the flame power i can say most of them are using basic burners costing RM 200-400 and they are satisfied with the flame, GCG is definitely stronger as proven compared to many brands, that is why there is actually no need to get super strong flame power like GAG or those 5kW burners. A good burner must have a balance of easy to maintain, strong flame power and durability, GCG series hobs are designed based on these 3 criteria and the design is updated every year making it even better every year



This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jul 10 2016, 12:36 PM

OMG! So brief and asking potential customers to do own research! 😱😱😱

Yup true

Great comparisons....at least it is much clearer now. Thank you.

I believe that own research stage is a process where every new customer will get involved.

Maybe you are the easy type, no research and straight buy?

I noticed huge difference between 2 sellers here.

One just expected people to do all the work whereas other seller gives detailed explanations with photos and videos included.

I would think the former type is not knowledgeable at all. Haha.. That's what I think.
He may tell me all sorts of things eg lazy, get buyers involved, understand it... BUT

If I could and HAD to do all the research by myself, then please think what role that seller could play? There is no value to me at all, and there is no reason I should buy any thing from him.

Think about what a consumer thinks about such seller. This is all I have to say.
Noktah!

And you believe everything from seller? Some comparison are bias, is better for a buyer to do own finding, after all is the buyer money, so buyer make a call.

There some bias comparison made before in this forum, if you search deep enough you know where is it.

I prefer seller give comparison then I rectify.. Rather than 0 customer service / 0 value..

Mayb u have had some bad experience before. And I feel sorry for u..

Ok, noktah! again..

This post has been edited by cclay: Jul 10 2016, 09:23 PM

Every products will have their cons and pros. Seller may or may not have all the information they have on their product but most of them do or else they shouldnt sell the product if they dont know more about it. Normally I will get all the sellers of the products to give me their reasons of why I need to choose their products and from there, we can make our own judgement. Each and everyone have different criteria of selecting a product and of course seller will push their favourites brands or types due to one reason or another. We as a consumer have a choice and seller cant force us....of course seller that provides more information to consumer do help the consumer.

Rinnai vs Fujioh inner flame hob, which one is better?

i would prefer rinnai. reason as my parents using those year and they cook everyday.

Fujioh is the first mover in inner flame hob whereby rinnai is the second.

Rinnai is more specialising in hob (and gas related product like gas heater and commercial range appliances).

Fujioh is more specialising in hood (we have a customer record of 18years usage).


ELECTROLUX, TEKA, BOSCH have good hob too, how many of you realise?

We have fotile old models at clearance price, dirt cheap. For those who doesn't mind new or old models, check with us the deal.

Morning everyone, forumers read through discussion thread to get information, if you continue to flood the discussion thread with unrelated info or arguement, forumers will have to spend more time to read unrelated info and it is really very frustrated, this is what many customers pointed out to me. The same few forumers targeting me again, i hope this can STOP or i hope ADMIN can take action (please do remember some of you got suspended once using unethical tactic to target me, admin did notify me previously)

Please do not use this thread which i created as a war zone. This thread is created mainly to share info about hood and hob, ofcoz by sharing info and my knowledge i gain business in the process.

If you have any feedback or info wan to share, just post your comments with photos and videos. Lets make this thread healthy and share more info for everyone to learn, if you think your inner flame is good, snap some photos and prove it to us.

As customers wan to know about inner flame, i personally test one to get more info, how could you expect a normal end user to buy all the different hobs and test by themselves to do their own research?

MORE ABOUT INNER FLAME
1) As most customers want to know the flame power, tested FOTILE GCG 90301 flame power is stronger than inner flame.



2) Maintenance, as shown photos, the inner flame model is open not sealed, if over-spill it is harder to clean. However as pointed out by dayalan there is a cup under the hob to contain the spill. I have checked the cup, it is kinda shallow estimated 30-40ml only and it does not have rubber seal, so water can actually sip through the gap.
I have a video to show this but i wont post it here, i can show u when u r in my shop.


3) Due to the inner flame design (wide open burner), cockroaches, ants, lizards and etc can actually go in & out of the hob freely. This is what i think and believe, to be sure about this any1 using inner flame just remove the glass or stainless steel and look inside the hob, c any stain inside the hob.
I believe this is true as dayalan86 mentioned his inner flame "ant got burnt and stuck to the gas nozzle"


cclay is right, salesman will push and explain their products, customers will then decide what is best for them. We cant just give them the catalogue and expect they learn by themself as catalogue will not reflect the true performance of the products. Are all the points i mentioned about inner flame provided in the catalog?

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jul 11 2016, 10:37 AM

1001% right.....website does not tell much and neither is the catalogue. Experience/feedback from customer is the best and also seeing is believing.

Hi

Anyone know where to purchase stainless steel cover for hood's ducting?
Thanks


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