Ours is not the sloping rectifier model, it is the cheaper version which is the FIT-150V (vented) model. The suction is good and there is no residue in the kitchen but the grease build up on the cooker hood filter itself makes it very difficult to clean especially if you're doing heavy cooking. As our kitchen is quite narrow, removing the baffle panel without spilling the oil build up is quite a challenge. And then comes the filter which cannot be washed off easily but then again due to the difficulty in washing the filter and drying it, we usually put off cleaning the cooker hood until the suction really becomes bad and this causes massive build up.

So when I was shopping for a new cooker hood, I wanted something that was easy to clean with a good suction.

This post has been edited by dayalan86: Jan 10 2014, 10:02 AM

I have installed my Fotile EH10BQ and my kitchen is open concept kitchen as well (Kitchen + dining + living). We tried cooking Kangkung belacan yesterday, and did not have any belacan smell lingering around while cooking, except when the wind blows the hood exhaust fumes back in. This is partly due to my kitchen is located at front and secondly the ducting height clearance is right above the window (renovation mistake).

This post has been edited by dayalan86: Jul 2 2014, 01:00 PM

We have been using the Rinnai Innerflame since it was introduced somewhere around end of 2009 or early 2010. The spills can be contained within the inner cup, much easier to maintain as there is no burner ring to be washed or cleaned.

Serviced once, due to an ant got burnt and stuck to the gas nozzle, hence the flame became smaller on the left burner. An additional benefit of inner flame is that it does not heat up the surrounding as much as a normal hob, since most of the flame is contained and directed towards the pot / pan. It makes cooking more comfortable.

Yup true

For Rinnai, I stand by RB-3SI their innerflame technology hob. Ours is going strong despite being 7 years, went through a kitchen remodel and recently even able to withstand a complete water splash onto the hob after our house ceiling collapsed. Ceiling didn't fall directly above it but the angle of water splashing from the fallen ceiling, was directed directly towards the hob and into the burners. (The force was like waterfall since our main gutter got blocked and all water was directed backwards into the kitchen.

After blowing off excess water from the hob and starting the hob, it worked perfectly. We did call for service once, after we put the hob away for 1 year plus during our kitchen remodel. Some ants died inside the inner gas nozzle, according to the service guy; this is one of the common issues for this hob; especially if it is not frequently used.

From my experience, for hob you will never go wrong with Rinnai innerflame, even though the design looks weird and one may think that it will not stand our asian oil splash and spills; however, I must say that it fares so much more better in this aspect compared to conventional hob.

For cooker hood, value for money; is Fotile. I have no experience with Rinnai hood, thus shall reserve my comment. I combined my Rinnai hob with Fotile, previously used Fujioh and that hood while effective is a nightmare to clean.

This post has been edited by dayalan86: Jul 31 2017, 04:25 PM

I recently had experience using the MIDEA MCH-90TR1 slanted cooker hood for cooking at the airbnb which I lived in; somehow I find it more effective than my Fotile EH-10BQ when it comes to trapping oil while frying; mainly because it is slanted.

The Midea definitely noisier than the Fotile and slighly difficult to clean; especially the weird mesh filter design behind the baffle plate which requires screwdriver to remove for cleaning; needless to say since it is a Airbnb, the mesh filter is a gooey mess (probably causing the noise).

Suction wise I find it good and traps grease & smell better compared to the my standard type EH-10BQ.

From my experience, I feel that the JQG-9009t is definitely good for open kitchen concept; most likely, will consider replacing my EH-10BQ with a slanted design once my Fotile fails.

We are using innerflame for the past 10 years, still going great (serviced twice, so far, once insect died inside at the injector and second round general cleaning due to something got stuck on the burner)

Yes there are times when overflow item goes down the burner, but it didn't affect the burner per say but there are stuff which flow below the hob into the gas storage area (if a lot of overflow, which the overflow cap can't contain)

We are using the SS version, space separation between the 3rd rear burner isn't that great.

If we are upgrading, probably will go for Fotile EPS series instead.

Innerflame key benefit is less heat (as heat is directed towards the pot) and energy saving; both of this seems to be achievable by Fotile design of the burner.

Below 1.5k probably can look at Rubine or Midea, Noisy but quite efficient (tested at a rented unit when I was in Melaka)

Fotile would be a good option, I think their basic model is below 1.5k

Replaced our 10 year old Rinnai RB 3SI inner flame unit (after finding much difficulty in getting their service personnel to come over) with Fotile GAG86210.

Impressed by the superior flame control, the gas knob has good resistance to it (similar to volume knob on AV receiver), makes it very much easier to control flame.

The Rinnai was a flexi cut out design, versus this Fotile. Had to do some hole size modification, to get this fitted in.

As long as can get best price for Fotile.

Finally all Fotile from Hood to Oven, initially very skeptic of the brand 😅

This post has been edited by dayalan86: Dec 5 2021, 11:13 AM

Have you consider using single burner hobs? can combine two to get your ideal distance and you could get a combination of electric & Gas this way. I believe Bosch / Teka / Electrolux does have smaller size hobs but at a premium price.

From experience, Italian brands tend to carry smaller size hobs; Asian brands tend to consider using a large wok & a smaller sauce pan or frying pan.

https://www.electrolux.com.my/appliances/st...hobs/ehi6450ba/

We moved from Italian design hobs to Asian ones, solely for this reason and also for better wok support. First hob we used was Faber, which had four burners but in practical use, only 2 could be used at any given time.

And then we moved to 3 burner Rinnai, which also in practical use; only 2 burners could be used at any given time unless we are using two smaller cooking utensil.

Now finally moved to Fotile, as I found it to be the only one which allows precise flame control, even when using the large burner for simmering.

For hood, you can find the slim box design type (L Shape), which can sit as close as possible to the stove without being in the way.

It depends on your setup, but thermomix can be set nearer the dry kitchen area; as I find it to be somehow clean in cooking and doesn't require much prep area, since chopping, grating etc can be done with the thermomix. This depends on your kitchen.

This post has been edited by dayalan86: Dec 7 2021, 02:58 PM

If you decide on single burner hob side by side, probably will need reinforcement on the inside carcass of the cabinet, if using concrete top with tiles (with rebar), shouldn't be an issue.

L Shape Hood is something like this:

https://buildershardware.com.my/wp-content/...PPER-90SS-1.jpg

If 760mm, why not consider Fotile EPS Series?
http://www.fotile.com.my/products/GAG76202.html

Can Ask Zheilwane for best price.

Rinnai after sales became worst after the MCO, hence decided not to go back for Rinnai.

Also, Rinnai is still selling my exact same model from 10 years ago but the price has increased by more than 40%.


As for Heat Efficiency, I'm not sure how to compare. Fotile mentions 60% efficiency from the rated input.

Rinnai's innner flame series, do not have similar heating prowess as a standard burner type and it would be unfair to compare the Rinnai against something that is very different. We were using the inner flame series from Rinnai. Would strongly advise against this model, if you do a lot of cooking. Firstly, for deep frying the heat isn't really sufficient and secondly, if you do a lot of frying, grease accumulates on the inner parts of the burner. Since it's semi open by design, insects etc can built nest or die inside the burner.

This post has been edited by dayalan86: Dec 13 2021, 08:04 AM

To be honest, no gas stove will have issues within 2 years warranty period. Ignition failure usually occurs much earlier; all our stoves including our free standing cooker Zanussi and cheap Faber hob before the Rinnai; never had ignition issues. Zanussi had valve failure on one of the burners after 7 years of use.

Faber had gas leak due to cracked burner (not the ring, burner itself cracked); lasted about 10 years when the burner crack happened; flame will come out from below the burner due to leaking gas.

Rinnai's only issue after all those years is the poor design of inner flame series; it is fully serviceable but with scarce service personnel; its just as good as useless.

I personally find Fotile's flame is stable, high powerful flame stability can be achieved by many hobs; the true test is when you want to reduce the big flame to simmer (many falter and fail, even the Rinnai, as somehow the flame will become yellow (gas / oxygen mixture not right) once you reduce to lower low flame setting (I believe this is only achievable by Fotile EPS Series burners, not sure if Superflame can get the same results or not)

On the Fotile, so far we are able to reduce the flame to simmer easily due to the resistance on the control valve itself; if you can test Rinnai valve (RB-3SI) & Fotile Valve; you can sense the difference.

"Branded" hobs usually won't have much effect on the glass surface; though, there have been cases of shattered glass top on Rinnai Inner Flame series. Ours was Stainless Steel; as initially this Rinnai was purchased to replace a large cut out Faber hob and the person who sold us; recommended to get the Stainless steel top as it is more rigid compared to the glass top version (which can flex and may cause the glass to shatter eventually).

Rinnai Inner flame is as per below; burner ring sits below the surface and fire comes from "within" much like a volcano heat.



This post has been edited by dayalan86: Dec 14 2021, 01:42 PM

Yea and they conveniently "forgot" my appointment and request me to file the appointment again. So far with Fotile, from experience with the cooker hood service call out (twice, once for warranty and second for general cleaning of interior); was far smoother and better experience overall.

Also, Fotile parts seems to be easily available online as well.

Is the height from hob to hood correct? Can't see the smoke, is the attachment correct, as it seems from the photo stove & hood is off.

You need to check what temp the oven is running for Hydroclean, even Pyrolytic function kills the oven heating element & control board very quickly.

I moved back from steam combi oven to a full size convection oven; as I find the steam combi not perform very well when baking.

I moved from Zanussi free standing oven, to Panasonic Big Cubie and back to Fotile Convection oven; never missed the Panasonic at all

Somehow, I have bias that Asian Brand cooker hoods perform better for Asian style cooking. Western type, I feel is more suited for Western cooking with less grease.

Looking at the filter on this cooker hood, cleaning it after a typical sambal tumis session will be tough.

Air circulation and specs is only as good as it gets, if the filter is clean.

This post has been edited by dayalan86: Mar 12 2022, 06:20 AM

Not sure, we only clean our Fotile hood once a month or sometimes once in three months. Major Cleaning every 2 years once (involves removing the fan and internal cleaning)

So far I find the two tier pyramid style filter easy to clean, over the past 7 years. Compared to our old Fujioh, which had baffle + mesh filter. The mesh filter is a nightmare to clean; as we didn't have dishwasher back then. Running it over hot water doesn't really degrease it and using a commercial degreaser, stripped off most of the filter coating along with the grease.

Not so rajin to clean after every use and mostly used by mom, hence I only clean whenever I am free and feel like cleaning it.

This post has been edited by dayalan86: Mar 12 2022, 10:35 AM