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 Are you ok driving a diesel car?, What are your thoughts around it?

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hunt2sp
post Dec 9 2013, 05:58 PM

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post Dec 9 2013, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(hunt2sp @ Dec 9 2013, 05:58 PM)
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post Dec 9 2013, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Dec 9 2013, 05:14 PM)
Not sure how true is this but Euro 4 diesel is coming to our shores in 2015
http://www.cbt.com.my/2013/12/09/euro-4-di...sumers-in-2015/
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YOu have a better chance of Malaysia becoming a Developed Nation by 2020.......

They been setting target and 'talking' about it for way too long...

Anyway, I heard form my frens in the oil majors, they are actualyl bringing in Euro 4 diesel for the time being, due to a shortage of Euro 2.5 diesel in the market.

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post Dec 9 2013, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(teikwing @ Dec 9 2013, 01:09 PM)
Highway stations maybe yes but never experienced before for stations around the city. Generally, Petronas pumps around PJ/Bangsar area have low traffic.
General public perception on diesel-powered cars is noisy, smelly & dirty but once I show em my monthly diesel bills & distance covered (700-800km 100% city driving OR 1000 100% highway driving, both for a 60L tank or RM120 per full tank) which can match or even better a hybrid plus the torque that can outrun most if not all hybrids anytime, they are impressed.
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Agreed with you , Diesel engine have higher fuel efficiency compare to a Petrol/Gasoline engine , they convert more power from fuel and less heat was wasted as most of them are turbocharged .

U driving a F10 520D is it ? I drove one too , it's way more fun than driving a hybrid with a FC even better than hybrid . It has its huge torque developed low down at the rev range and there is power & torque everywhere in the rev range .
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post Dec 9 2013, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Dec 9 2013, 04:52 PM)
Getting from mudah is a no no for me to begin with.
Yeah. As long as the driver and passengers feel good, it's fine by me.

Speaking about Hyundai, they are strict about the 5k service intervals. They warned me again before officially handing me the keys.
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getting a petrol is a NO NO for me either tongue.gif

and i'm fine with 5k service interval actually..its better
the more often u check and change the fluids in your car...the better
and 5k...u can push it to 7k...i did it to mine all along
money saving and better for the car
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post Dec 9 2013, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 9 2013, 04:01 PM)
So, if the hose is bigger then the hole... u need to rotate it around, and find an upside down angle to push it in?  blush.gif
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No, if the nozzle is larger than the hole, you are at the wrong kiosk. Those are meant for lorries and trucks. Different compared to those meant for smaller vehicles.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Dec 9 2013, 04:06 PM)
Oh, ok. If I were buying a recon car, I would also personally avoid diesel too since the diesel engine is not tuned to our crappy diesel.
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You just need to remove the Diesel Particulate Filter which most recon diesel cars come with.
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Dec 9 2013, 05:14 PM)
Not sure how true is this but Euro 4 diesel is coming to our shores in 2015
http://www.cbt.com.my/2013/12/09/euro-4-di...sumers-in-2015/
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Highly doubt that, the only refineries which will start mass refining the Euro grade 4/5 diesels are expected to be at Pengerang in Johor (by PETRONAS). The final investment decision for the RAPID project is only due next year and after factoring in the time for construction and built up and deployment across Malaysia, we are easily looking at 2016 at the very earliest or 2017/2018 hopefully.
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Dec 9 2013, 07:11 PM)
You just need to remove the Diesel Particulate Filter which most recon diesel cars come with.
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Whoa.... u actually have to remove the particulate filter so our diesel can run properly without clogging things up...

Just how BAD is our Euro 2.5 sweat.gif
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post Dec 9 2013, 07:28 PM

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Every end of the month hard to find diesel.
That's the problem
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post Dec 9 2013, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 9 2013, 07:04 PM)
getting a petrol is a NO NO for me either tongue.gif

and i'm fine with 5k service interval actually..its better
the more often u check and change the fluids in your car...the better
and 5k...u can push it to 7k...i did it to mine all along
money saving and better for the car
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Hyundai is strict about sticking to 5k service intervals + / - 10%. I think 7k would ask for trouble in voiding warranty. Not worth for them to find excuse to void warranty.

QUOTE(Mavik @ Dec 9 2013, 07:11 PM)
You just need to remove the Diesel Particulate Filter which most recon diesel cars come with.
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I'm told the Santa Fe's R2.2 CRDi engine does not come with DPF. Are the new Mercs, Bimmers and Audis diesel powered cars don't come with DPF also?

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post Dec 9 2013, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Dec 9 2013, 04:57 PM)
And not to forget giving ppl behind us a WTF face when we pulling away faster than them in a black smoke thanks to our EURO2 diesel grade smile.gif

Drove to Siam before and pump their PTT euro4 diesel, no more black soot @ the back of the exhaust tip.. also regained the lost Horsepower..
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QUOTE(Wilson13B @ Dec 9 2013, 06:14 PM)
Agreed with you , Diesel engine have higher fuel efficiency compare to a Petrol/Gasoline engine , they convert more power from fuel and less heat was wasted as most of them are turbocharged .

U driving a F10 520D is it ? I drove one too , it's way more fun than driving a hybrid with a FC even better than hybrid . It has its huge torque developed low down at the rev range and there is power & torque everywhere in the rev range .
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E90 320d. Same N47 engine as your F10. smile.gif

Coming from a petrol NA 2.5L car, I have no qualms or complains whatsover after getting a diesel. I saved much more in terms of fuel expenditure, gets much more fun driving and pulling away from traffic with the immense amount of the torque & generally lower maintenance (no spark plugs, fully syn engine oil serviced every 7k km, fuel filter every 40k km & generally bullet-proof engine).

Hence I would say for someone with a budget to get a car which has an option between petrol (turbo or NA) and diesel, I don't see a reason why not to get the diesel. Diesel being dirty & the clatter is only a very minor issues which are outweighted by various benefits of a diesel.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Dec 9 2013, 08:00 PM)
Hyundai is strict about sticking to 5k service intervals + / - 10%. I think 7k would ask for trouble in voiding warranty. Not worth for them to find excuse to void warranty.
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my advice
service at SC..follow their regulation for the 1st year or 20k KM
thn u can use your own oil...particularly delo gold...should be good until 7k
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post Dec 9 2013, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 9 2013, 08:27 PM)
my advice
service at SC..follow their regulation for the 1st year or 20k KM
thn u can use your own oil...particularly delo gold...should be good until 7k
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i use delo gold on my petrol car up to 10k. ppl say me insane icon_question.gif
i just smile back, lazy to explain to them cool2.gif
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QUOTE(yamato @ Dec 9 2013, 08:42 PM)
i use delo gold on my petrol car up to 10k. ppl say me insane  icon_question.gif
i just smile back, lazy to explain to them  cool2.gif
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petrol..i'm using liqui moly
damn long lasting as well
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post Dec 9 2013, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 9 2013, 08:27 PM)
my advice
service at SC..follow their regulation for the 1st year or 20k KM
thn u can use your own oil...particularly delo gold...should be good until 7k
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Thanks for the tip. Petrol I don't mind but with diesel I rather go 5k intervals even after free service or warranty. Turbo engine some more. With the dirty diesel, I prefer to have the oil changed and flushed more frequently. No good keeping all that dirty soot cycled in the engine.


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Just wonder if any of you using any sort of cleaner additive into the diesel in regular maintenance basis? To prolong the injector life (for example)...?
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post Dec 9 2013, 11:59 PM

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i dont own diesel cars but i drove few of the diesel cars. What i like the most is the torque come early in lower RPM compare to petrol engine, i dont like revving engines. Besides that, i drove my friend's old Corona diesel engine which has similar FC to kelisa or sometime near viva 1.0.
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I've never owned a diesel car before and I used to hate diesel cars, coz have only driven those in crappy Isuzu MPVs long time ago which were loud, slow, and vibrating like hell. But it seems the technology has gone way ahead and gets better, so maybe, who knows I might own one when I'm an old grandpa. For now, gasoline engine is still what I prefer.

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