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boonwuilow
post Apr 25 2014, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Apr 25 2014, 12:29 AM)

Wah, the things he does, is it possible ah in Malaysia? Next thing you know BMW gets bad publicity when a driver suffocates trying to better the 1000 mile record.

1000km per tank is more doable in Malaysian traffic and climate conditions.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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In malaysia most probably can't due to hotter climate which resulted in a less denser intake air that will take away efficiency and not to say how good is the quality of diesel fuel made in malaysia...
But still is one of the best diesel range vehicle ever made
boonwuilow
post Apr 25 2014, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Apr 25 2014, 12:29 AM)
I will just say again that diesel engine on a small car like Fiesta does not make sense. You go through all the unnecessary vibration and noise for a small car is just not worth it. A diesel engine on a bigger vehicle makes more sense.

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Apr 25 2014, 02:37 AM)
It does makes sense. The consumption is lower and diesel is around RM 0.22 cheaper here. Though taxes are higher...
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Why not?
There even a manufacture in Dutch that make a 3 cylinder turbo diesel bike
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/17/4639/Moto...Quick-Ride.aspx
jchue73
post Apr 25 2014, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Apr 25 2014, 02:37 AM)
It does makes sense. The consumption is lower and diesel is around RM 0.22 cheaper here. Though taxes are higher...
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You're referring here as in somewhere in Europe? Diesel is cleaner where you are. Taxes higher for diesel?

Rest my case.

QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Apr 25 2014, 03:03 AM)
In malaysia most probably can't due to hotter climate which resulted in a less denser intake air that will take away efficiency and not to say how good is the quality of diesel fuel made in malaysia...
But still is one of the best diesel range vehicle ever made
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I was not making reference to Malaysian weather being hotter and therefore less efficient.

I was more concern about how would a driver tahan not using air conditioning with windows closed in hot humid climate like Malaysia just to perform the feat. Also, where would you be able to maintain a journey with 60 to 70 mph all the way? Our highways are not that long. Unless consider journey from JB all the way to Bangkok but that would be crazy if not impossible to maintain that kind of average speed.

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post Apr 25 2014, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Apr 25 2014, 09:23 AM)
I was not making reference to Malaysian weather being hotter and therefore less efficient.

I was more concern about how would a driver tahan not using air conditioning with windows closed in hot humid climate like Malaysia just to perform the feat. Also, where would you be able to maintain a journey with 60 to 70 mph all the way? Our highways are not that long. Unless consider journey from JB all the way to Bangkok but that would be crazy if not impossible to maintain that kind of average speed.
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Maybe u were right, perhaps that your way of bench marking things rolleyes.gif

But worst of all diesel is when it wants to runaway from u laugh.gif
kadajawi
post Apr 26 2014, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Apr 25 2014, 09:23 AM)
You're referring here as in somewhere in Europe? Diesel is cleaner where you are. Taxes higher for diesel?

Rest my case.
I was not making reference to Malaysian weather being hotter and therefore less efficient.

I was more concern about how would a driver tahan not using air conditioning with windows closed in hot humid climate like Malaysia just to perform the feat. Also, where would you be able to maintain a journey with 60 to 70 mph all the way? Our highways are not that long. Unless consider journey from JB all the way to Bangkok but that would be crazy if not impossible to maintain that kind of average speed.
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Admittedly I'm in Europe. Diesel is cleaner almost anywhere compared to Malaysia... doh.gif The government really needs to fix this by introducing ANOTHER type of diesel. No need to replace the current one which is ok for lorries. Just add one that is offered at the regular petrol pumps just like 95 and 97.

In Spain it seems taxes are maybe 2x that of petrol. In Germany at least for my car it was about 4-5x that of petrol, maybe it's different for cleaner diesels.

Keep in mind my gf's Fiesta is around 15-17 years old (1.8 liter, non turbocharged diesel with 44 kW... which is probably around 60-65 PS?). Modern diesels are much more refined. Heck, even my now 22 year old Renault 19 1.9D (64 PS) felt a bit more refined than the Fiesta in terms of vibration. And also keep in mind that a diesel is much easier to drive, especially as a manual. You can drive with pretty low RPM, you can start driving without pressing the accelerator. It's somewhere between auto and manual, really. You can shift into first with the clutch pressed, right foot on the brakes. Then you let go of the clutch until it bites, brakes still pressed. When you feel the car moving forward, let go of the brakes. Unless it's a steep hill you won't roll back, no need for the handbrake. The engine won't stall easily.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Apr 26 2014, 06:31 PM
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post Apr 28 2014, 10:12 PM

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post Dec 17 2015, 08:26 AM

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Bringing up old topic.

With More Euro 5 Diesel introduced in Malaysia, demand for Diesel vehicle may increase. However with the recent dieselgate issue, is diesel vehicle better choice in Malaysia?
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post Dec 17 2015, 09:42 AM

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I'm in the midst of buying a used SUV.

Having a turbodiesel engine is the top criteria. So... hell yeah... I do want a diesel car!
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post Dec 17 2015, 09:45 AM

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definitely!! I used to drive the A6 Diesel when overseas was a fantastic car

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