My friend's family had a BMW diesel, a 5-series forgot specifically which model. Being a BMW the car of course looks rightfully luxurious and upmarket.....until my friend start the engine and the loud diesel clatter can be heart 4 houses away

Anyway, I don't mind owning a diesel car but my biggest doubt is still the local diesel quality and availability.

INternational prices for RON97 and Diesel is still quite far apart. I dont see how a Euro 5 diesel can be same price as RON97.

Lets take Shell prices in Singapore as an example.

RON98 : SGD 2.31
Euro 5 Diesel : SGD 1.68

Price of RON98 is 37.4% higher then Euro 5 Diesel.

This post has been edited by MeToo: Dec 9 2013, 03:39 PM

it was not a brand new car....its a recon
he asked for my opinion which is better.....i recommend diesel but he dn't wanna listen...so no choice
and BTW...all of the diesel car in our country are RM100k and up also

IMO, its a pain in the ass
u have to pump real slow...if any faster, it will spill
if full tank will take u a long long time

Actually initially I had that issue but when I learned from the other diesel owners, there is a way to actually slot it in correctly so that the diesel doesn't spill out. Most of the time it means slotting in the pump at a slanted angle so that it can enter in correctly.

imma try next time..... ...see if it works
thx for the tip
PS am not very tall

Hahaha don't need to be tall, when I meant angle, normally the angle we put it in is that the handle will be pointing downwards as normal. Try rotating it clockwise and try to slow push it in, you might find the right angle putting it in.

So, if the hose is bigger then the hole... u need to rotate it around, and find an upside down angle to push it in?

Yeah, noise clatter is one thing but I hate the sour diesel smell in the morning when you start up the car.

I am aware that their prices are far apart. Going by that logic, our diesel price should be much cheaper than RON 95 but they are not. That is why I mention I'm not sure how much the government will subsidise the EURO 5/6 diesel. If going by current strategy for diesel pricing which the EURO 2.5 diesel prices almost similar to RON 95, I bet the price of the EURO 5/6 diesel will be somewhere between RON 95 RON 97. I'm sure the government will still keep the EURO 2.5 diesel for lorries and the higher grade diesel EURO 5 diesel (if they come) for SUVs / cars.

Oh, ok. If I were buying a recon car, I would also personally avoid diesel too since the diesel engine is not tuned to our crappy diesel.

Learn something new today.

I have both diesel and petrol cars.... I love the diesel!!

the only complain I have is it's like what most ppl said, dirty at gas stations.... this is mainly due to the fact diesel is similar to cooking oil... it doesn't evaporate..... hence that dirty, oily stain....

getting a petrol worries me even more
look at mudah...10/10 car sold is petrol and is only 2-4 years old

I also got recond turbo diesel.. so far no issues but mechanic says have to service more often. Noise acceptable coz nvh quite good.. personally, I like the macho growl of a diesel engine.. But I always joke and tell ppl I drive lorry.. as long as I ok, don't care what other ppl think

The Amount of Torque....

This post has been edited by 2JayZ: Dec 9 2013, 04:37 PM

Oh no. What would people say next? Your car runs on minyak masak?

Now if they can only make the turbo diesel as responsive as a petrol, I would be all happy. Perhaps the chip is the ticket.

Getting from mudah is a no no for me to begin with.

Yeah. As long as the driver and passengers feel good, it's fine by me.

Speaking about Hyundai, they are strict about the 5k service intervals. They warned me again before officially handing me the keys.

is ADDICTIVE !

And not to forget giving ppl behind us a WTF face when we pulling away faster than them in a black smoke thanks to our EURO2 diesel grade

Drove to Siam before and pump their PTT euro4 diesel, no more black soot @ the back of the exhaust tip.. also regained the lost Horsepower..

Not sure how true is this but Euro 4 diesel is coming to our shores in 2015
http://www.cbt.com.my/2013/12/09/euro-4-di...sumers-in-2015/

@travis_ckf: Yeah. That's their plan... FOR NOW. They talk a lot when the day is long, what will happen in the end is anyone's guess. Haven't they planned to introduce Euro 4 diesel before? Did it come? Nah. Why should it be any different this time?

2015 is taking too long....

If it's planned in 2015, chances are likely that it would be in 2016, or later.

Not really pulling away 'faster' situation for me, But I have to endure the black smoke at the back. I wud have a WTF face if the car infront black smoke me....often a pickup and inside me would often curse niama ....thinking that buy car but dono how to maintain...or old car mentality....if it black smoke behind me then I don't k but not in front of me....I would slow slow down to wait the black smoke disperse to the air.