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 Are you ok driving a diesel car?, What are your thoughts around it?

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Wilson13B
post Dec 10 2013, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(teikwing @ Dec 9 2013, 08:19 PM)
E90 320d. Same N47 engine as your F10. smile.gif

Coming from a petrol NA 2.5L car, I have no qualms or complains whatsover after getting a diesel. I saved much more in terms of fuel expenditure, gets much more fun driving and pulling away from traffic with the immense amount of the torque & generally lower maintenance (no spark plugs, fully syn engine oil serviced every 7k km, fuel filter every 40k km & generally bullet-proof engine).

Hence I would say for someone with a budget to get a car which has an option between petrol (turbo or NA) and diesel, I don't see a reason why not to get the diesel. Diesel being dirty & the clatter is only a very minor issues which are outweighted by various benefits of a diesel.
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Been driving my mates E90 325 2.5 inline-6 gasoline before , felt that the 320d is more fun to drive around the city ,the feel of torque rush from it just cant get it on a 325 , even its 500cc larger & have another 2 cylinder ...

The downside of a 320d i think just the clattering when at idle . when its working hard ,its actually sound quite good too .

The Triton/Pajero Sport 2.5 VGT is a good diesel car too , with the Variable Geometry Turbo it just pulls anywhere on the rev range , its a really fun car to drive too ...

The next car i would buy for a DD , i would choose a TurboDiesel vehicle too wink.gif

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rcracer
post Dec 10 2013, 07:50 AM

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absolutely, they are much more relaxing to drive, longer mileage
CANONPIXMA
post Dec 10 2013, 08:03 AM

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Currently driving a Ford Focus TDCI, great torque, great FC =) no problem getting diesel so far
DrBarbarian
post Dec 10 2013, 09:54 AM

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time to service my diesel car this friday... smile.gif do you guys add any addictive or cleaner? my service center uses Shell oil which I heard heard is not as good.....
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post Dec 10 2013, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(DrBarbarian @ Dec 10 2013, 09:54 AM)
time to service my diesel car this friday... smile.gif do you guys add any addictive or cleaner? my service center uses Shell oil which I heard heard is not as good.....
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Does Hyundai allow you to bring your own oil?
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post Dec 10 2013, 12:16 PM

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Interesting article here.
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/12/09/diese...-cancer-deaths/
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post Dec 10 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Dec 10 2013, 10:22 AM)
Does Hyundai allow you to bring your own oil?
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i have no idea... i doubt it though.....
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post Dec 10 2013, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(DrBarbarian @ Dec 10 2013, 09:54 AM)
time to service my diesel car this friday... smile.gif do you guys add any addictive or cleaner? my service center uses Shell oil which I heard heard is not as good.....
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shell/petronas are as usual garbage oil despite good "grade"
i use my liqui moly SL also better than shell/petronas's SM/SN
diesel just use delo gold
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post Dec 10 2013, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Dec 9 2013, 07:11 PM)
You just need to remove the Diesel Particulate Filter which most recon diesel cars come with.
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Read a few articles about this Diesel Particulate Filter.

It's not so easy just to remove it right, as the fuel map etc may need to be re-adapted.

And from all diesel heads here, is it good or bad to have the DPF removed ? Let say if we have Euro 4 diesel in MY. I know now we have no choice but to remove it.
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QUOTE(amdxp @ Dec 10 2013, 05:27 PM)
Read a few articles about this Diesel Particulate Filter.

It's not so easy just to remove it right, as the fuel map etc may need to be re-adapted.

And from all diesel heads here, is it good or bad to have the DPF removed ?  Let say if we have Euro 4 diesel in MY.  I know now we have no choice but to remove it.
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Its bad for the environment to remove it when you have Euro 4 fuel.

But you have no issues when pumping in Euro4 fuel without the DPF. A number of diesel heads in Singapore have done that as well as those from the North who try out V-Power Diesel in Thailand.
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post Dec 11 2013, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(amdxp @ Dec 10 2013, 05:27 PM)
Read a few articles about this Diesel Particulate Filter.

It's not so easy just to remove it right, as the fuel map etc may need to be re-adapted.

And from all diesel heads here, is it good or bad to have the DPF removed ?  Let say if we have Euro 4 diesel in MY.  I know now we have no choice but to remove it.
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DPF is not necessary to be removed if Euro4 fuel is used, all modern DPF have a regen function where they can burn off the collected soot after a certain number of operating hours.

Euro2 is problem because the amount is more than the regen can handle hence that's why some cars have it removed when sent here
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if the price of the car is cheap aka half price ill go for diesel car else big nono
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post Dec 11 2013, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Dec 11 2013, 12:01 PM)
if the price of the car is cheap aka half price ill go for diesel car else big nono
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but diesel cheaper and drive longer
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Dec 11 2013, 12:11 PM)
but diesel cheaper and drive longer
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duncare... just want cheap price car tongue.gif
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post Dec 11 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Dec 11 2013, 12:31 PM)
duncare... just want cheap price car tongue.gif
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lol cheap car but at rm4 per litre is of no use bro, cost of buying is once, cost of running is forever
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post Dec 11 2013, 01:34 PM

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No problem with driving a diesel car, but will hesitate to buy one, unless willing to tanggung 40-50k/year depreciation for the first 1-3 years.... Have a look at the 2010-2012 E90 320d second hand price. Mind you, that's market price, second hand car dealers will pay 8-15k less for it.

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post Dec 11 2013, 10:56 PM

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Very good points brought up here, so I see even though there is a majority of 75% that say it is ok, but most of the cases, the price of the car/vehicle is high (can't find a new diesel car for <RM100k) as well as the low depreciation rate.
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post Dec 11 2013, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Dec 11 2013, 11:25 AM)
DPF is not necessary to be removed if Euro4 fuel is used, all modern DPF have a regen function where they can burn off the collected soot after a certain number of operating hours.

Euro2 is problem because the amount is more than the regen can handle hence that's why some cars have it removed when sent here
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Heard from a friend which drive a Golf MK5 GTD at Europe before , the DPF things require a fluid top up around 30K Kms or so and the fluid are quite expensive .

i personally doesn't seen a Diesel car with that system in Malaysia before .

Actually Diesel engine are far cleaner than a Petrol counterparts as it produce little to no NOx , the only problem is the unburnt particles known as black soot so the DPF is there for this matter .

QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Dec 11 2013, 12:31 PM)
duncare... just want cheap price car tongue.gif
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LOL ... bought a Pajero MK1 with 2.5 Turbo Diesel , cost around 20K nowadays only , if u get one with Green Diesel the roadtax are cheaper aswell wink.gif
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post Dec 12 2013, 12:10 AM

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If performance is what you are after, you don't want a diesel. some people here don't even know what they are talking about apart from reading spec sheets. Diesel cars do not outrun people in highways, if a 50m stretch of city drag race is considered a race, yes, you can "smoke" people. doh.gif

diesels are great for HIGHWAY, you get great FC, on par with hybrid really. Not on City. RM120 for 600km 100% city is NOTHING compared to a hybrid. Proper hybrid like HSD can do 600km in half the price. Another example of ignorant posting doh.gif

Basically diesels are great for city drive with the torque, trying to challenge other petrol heads in a long stretch road is just pure ignorant of your own car. But FC wise diesel are much better at highway, while city is nothing to shout about really.

Don't believe what i posted? feel free to clarify via Mr Google.

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post Dec 12 2013, 12:13 AM

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I believe diesel engine will be the big thing based on the current trend on pickup trucks over here at east coast of Sabah.

The aftermarket performance parts from Thailand for 4x4 is selling like hot cakes and the power it produces really baffles my mind. Just a few thousand ringgit & 200+hp is ready for your disposal yet the auto gbox able to withstand even higher hp.



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