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darklight79
post Jun 26 2006, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 26 2006, 06:52 PM)
I've been to gym before so I am not beginner. Ok la, maybe beginner since I quitted liao. Was member at FF and then CF 1U, now no more.

Anyway, is the training really that heavy? I think it's alright lor. I dont intend to go with heavy weights. Maybe 15kg per dumbell.

I just wish I know the right weights for me.
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We're talking about volume here. It is way too much imo. I've been training many years and my volume has never been that high. I know some people who compete and their volume isn't that high either. Too many exercises.
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post Jun 26 2006, 07:16 PM

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lol, that really is alot in your list, are you sure you arent going to overwork yourself?
i do less than half of what you have on the list sweat.gif hell i dont even know what half of the things you listed are doh.gif . i'd probably stop half way exhausted overworked and straight out tired of it. unless you've already been working out regularly over the past few months you cant just jump straight into a heavy routine, chances are you'll burn out and quit, start small and build up.


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post Jun 26 2006, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 26 2006, 06:55 PM)
A lot of ppl say, if you want buff, WWE body like The Rock, you take HEAVY weights but LOW repetitions. If you want dancer or Olympic sprinter body, you take LESS weight but MORE repetitions. How true is this statement?
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As true as the fact that masturbating a lot will give you hairy palms.
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post Jun 26 2006, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(FleshWound @ Jun 26 2006, 07:56 PM)
As true as the fact that masturbating a lot will give you hairy palms.
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What the..... ? You could have just said no right?

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post Jun 26 2006, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(FleshWound @ Jun 26 2006, 07:56 PM)
As true as the fact that masturbating a lot will give you hairy palms.
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post Jun 26 2006, 09:13 PM

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lol, but that would give a better impression and commits to memory better.

If you want to be Bruce Lee big, lift heavy.

If you want to be Brad Pitt big, lift heavy.

If you want to be The Rock big, lift heavy.

If you want to be Arnold big, lift heavy.

Point is, there are only 2 things you can do for your physique, build muscle and reduce bodyfat.
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post Jun 27 2006, 12:33 AM

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Huh? Then how do those dancers / body pump and The Rock get their body? If they have done the same workout, wouldnt they end up the same?
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post Jun 27 2006, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(FleshWound @ Jun 26 2006, 07:56 PM)
As true as the fact that masturbating a lot will give you hairy palms.
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*looks at bare palms*
I'm such an innocent..... shocking.gif

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post Jun 27 2006, 01:03 AM

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I want muscle definition not boulders on my chest. Whats your routine like darklight? Heavy, less reps or light, more reps? You're power training or going for arnold-like buffness?
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post Jun 27 2006, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(Muffins @ Jun 27 2006, 01:03 AM)
I want muscle definition not boulders on my chest. Whats your routine like darklight? Heavy, less reps or light, more reps? You're power training or going for arnold-like buffness?
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I powerbuild actually. My routine is a bodybuilding routine but built up around the big three; squat, bench press and deadlift, as priority.
Imo, if these 3 core exercises are weak, other lifts don't matter at all, period.

If you want definition, it doesn't really have much to do with the weight training routine but diet and cardio.
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post Jun 27 2006, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(snorlax @ Jun 27 2006, 12:42 AM)
*looks at bare palms*
I'm such an innocent.....  shocking.gif

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*Looks at palms*

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Gawd! The hair, THE HAIR!!!! I'M GONNA HELL!
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post Jun 27 2006, 03:51 AM

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Ok, maybe my workout plan is too much. I will surf something up from bodybuilding.com.

Darklight79 sifu, if everyone lift heavy weights - how do those dancers / body pump and The Rock get their body? If they have done the same workout, wouldnt they end up the same?
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 27 2006, 12:33 AM)
Huh? Then how do those dancers / body pump and The Rock get their body? If they have done the same workout, wouldnt they end up the same?
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You stop going heavier when you reach your ideal physique. It's not like you lift heavy and in 3 months from nothing *POOF* Shiet. I'm the Rock, beech. No, it doesn't happen that way. Growth comes gradually.

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But of course you can always follow the routines of what certain people do to get their physiques and hope that there is enough strenous activity to stimulate muscle growth.

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post Jun 27 2006, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(FleshWound @ Jun 27 2006, 06:13 AM)
You stop going heavier when you reach your ideal physique. It's not like you lift heavy and in 3 months from nothing *POOF* Shiet. I'm the Rock, beech. No, it doesn't happen that way. Growth comes gradually.

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But of course you can always follow the routines of what certain people do to get their physiques and hope that there is enough strenous activity to stimulate muscle growth.
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^^^^^^^^^^^

smile.gif He answered it. But i would like to add bigger weights + DIET = bigger muscles.
You have no idea how much i eat, especially on workout days.
And Pennywise, please don't call me sifu, there're plenty of other experienced members on this board too. wink.gif

Anyway, general rule, if you're getting stronger but not growing, your routine is good but your diet sucks, if you're getting bigger but your lifts are stagnant, then a person's diet is good but the routine sucks. This is a GENERAL rule but not applicable to all situations.
I can easily tell you now that bodybuilding is 70% diet and 30% other factors. My friends on bb.com have repeatedly drilled this into my head. I've trained for many years and while i got pretty strong, my growth stagnated after i jumped from 55kg to 78kg.
After i started eating right, my lifts exploded and my bodyweight increased to 97kg. Fooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!

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now gimme some of your food.....i dun have money to buy sweat.gif
rite now only taking HL milk.....
before this only lift weight but eat crap foods....
dun giv a damn bout DIET sweat.gif


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post Jun 27 2006, 03:23 PM

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darklight, we gotta go out someday on a makan trip.
Since you eat a lot.
Yet even you say I eat a lot. (C'mon, I'm always hungry!)
I feel like a hippo.

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 27 2006, 09:25 AM)
^^^^^^^^^^^

smile.gif He answered it. But i would like to add bigger weights + DIET = bigger muscles.
You have no idea how much i eat, especially on workout days.
And Pennywise, please don't call me sifu, there're plenty of other experienced members on this board too. wink.gif

Anyway, general rule, if you're getting stronger but not growing, your routine is good but your diet sucks, if you're getting bigger but your lifts are stagnant, then a person's diet is good but the routine sucks. This is a GENERAL rule but not applicable to all situations.
I can easily tell you now that bodybuilding is 70% diet and 30% other factors. My friends on bb.com have repeatedly drilled this into my head. I've trained for many years and while i got pretty strong, my growth stagnated after i jumped from 55kg to 78kg.
After i started eating right, my lifts exploded and my bodyweight increased to 97kg. Fooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!

biggrin.gif
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97KG now....... shocking.gif
wao! I dont think I want to be that range at all as I am only 170cm. 65kg - 70kg I think is max for me adi...
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post Jun 27 2006, 11:55 PM

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nah...i'm 176CM
When I was 63, I said 70's ideal. Now I'm 70, I'm aiming for 80KG's.
When I reach 80, I'm gonna want 85, but I think that's it for me. 85KG's

Btw, I think darklight's about your height.
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nah.. I think I will try to maintain my weight and workout at the same time. Getting heavier in muscles scares me sometimes when I think about later in life when I cant exercise that much anymore. hehehe... tongue.gif no offense
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 27 2006, 09:25 AM)
^^^^^^^^^^^

smile.gif He answered it. But i would like to add bigger weights + DIET = bigger muscles.
You have no idea how much i eat, especially on workout days.
And Pennywise, please don't call me sifu, there're plenty of other experienced members on this board too. wink.gif

Anyway, general rule, if you're getting stronger but not growing, your routine is good but your diet sucks, if you're getting bigger but your lifts are stagnant, then a person's diet is good but the routine sucks. This is a GENERAL rule but not applicable to all situations.
I can easily tell you now that bodybuilding is 70% diet and 30% other factors. My friends on bb.com have repeatedly drilled this into my head. I've trained for many years and while i got pretty strong, my growth stagnated after i jumped from 55kg to 78kg.
After i started eating right, my lifts exploded and my bodyweight increased to 97kg. Fooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!

biggrin.gif
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right. i agreed with you. if you dont eat well, then it is impossible for your muscle to grow. simple rule is.. eat more, pump more = muscle increase. if you eat less and pump more, will not get your further...

pennywise, long time no see. based on your daily routine, honestly, is over-loaded. some of the movement is unnecessary. if you want to do it, you can swap the movement. e.g. this week do these movement and following week do another movement.

from what i know, during bulk up stage, no matter how you diet, somehow you will get fat. maybe my way of gaining muscle is not same with darklight79 (no offence)... but it achieve the same result at the end. pro and con...


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