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Cavino
post Mar 29 2024, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Mar 29 2024, 10:44 AM)
Thanks. It won't be too soon to consider any tints at the moment unless I am getting another new car, maybe next year or so. Will contact you when the time comes as the Irispro series is looking good. May I ask how much did you pay for doing your whole car C-segment Honda Civic I presume?
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Around RM2900 but heard they are raising the price. Ya, its premium pricing although not at the range of VKool price.
So far excellent heat resistance, noticeable lesser heat than VKool Elite but then it has way lower VLT60/58 vs VKool 70 and I installed darker DX30 at all rears. Love the VLT21%, surprisingly light brown lighting inside for DX30 for a supposedly dark tint, still very sharp and clear at night, even during reversing. Only cons is the colour hue is a weirdly different from DX60, so those who want uniform colour (eg, light green for front, dark green for rear) will be disappointed. Have informed Irispro why same series DX60 and DX30 have different colour hue under bright sunlight. Inside DX60 has mild light green lighting, DX30 light brown (darker tint will filter out more blue light, I guess)...weird abit. Other than the hue, superb heat resistance and very comfortable to eyesight inside.

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post Mar 29 2024, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 29 2024, 11:40 AM)
Around RM2900 but heard they are raising the price. Ya, its premium pricing although not at the range of VKool price.
So far excellent heat resistance, noticeable lesser heat than VKool Elite but then it has way lower VLT60/58 vs VKool 70 and I installed darker DX30 at all rears. Love the VLT21%, surprisingly light brown lighting inside for DX30 for a supposedly dark tint, still very sharp and clear at night, even during reversing. Only cons is the colour hue is a weirdly different from DX60, so those who want uniform colour (eg, light green for front, dark green for rear) will be disappointed. Have informed Irispro why same series DX60 and DX30 have different colour hue under bright sunlight. Inside DX60 has mild light green lighting, DX60 light brown (darker tint will filter out more blue light, I guess)...weird abit. Other than the hue, superb heat resistance and very comfortable to eyesight inside.
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post Mar 30 2024, 08:39 AM

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Anyone got recommendation for good tint for budget around than 600-700? I have a rm500 voucher with raytech but can i use it to get a deal around my budget?
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post Mar 31 2024, 03:33 PM

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v cool elite... 19 yrs old; 12 yrs under shades n 7 yrs under hot sun...

inner sputter layer deteriorating, becoming wavy and delaminating... but glue and base layer still strong...
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looking for some good film to diy smile.gif

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post Apr 1 2024, 02:35 PM

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I am looking for tint for FWS and RWS with heat rejections. Any suggestions? Preferably below RM400? Around PJ/KL
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post Apr 1 2024, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Mar 31 2024, 03:33 PM)
v cool elite... 19 yrs old; 12 yrs under shades n 7 yrs under hot sun...

inner sputter layer deteriorating, becoming wavy and delaminating... but glue and base layer still strong...
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looking for some good film to diy smile.gif
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That is why I say VKool Elite is really the most reliable besides being the most expensive clear tint. 2 of mine lasted 15 years and 18 years respectively before it become wavy like yours.
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post Apr 1 2024, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 1 2024, 03:39 PM)
That is why I say VKool Elite is really the most reliable besides being the most expensive clear tint. 2 of mine lasted 15 years and 18 years respectively before it become wavy like yours.
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i think branded top products are probably similar... quality doesn't come cheap... and to go cheap have to cut corners...

but i feel local v kool pricing really too much liao... price gap ridiculous...

btw for folks who don't know... v kool, llumar, huper optic, suntek and a few others... all same owner...

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post Apr 3 2024, 11:18 AM

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Hi all sifus here, want to get your advice about tinting and prices. I am planning on getting a new car: Chery Omoda 5, and I am not sure on my options.

My SA asked me to go with MPro but their pricing damn high @ RM4k++ for non-branded tint.

I am looking for great heat rejection and can last up to 5 years+ if possible. My budget is around RM2k - RM3k but you can convince me to top up more laugh.gif.

Any recommendations? I live around Old Klang Road and I see many tint shops around like Raytech but don't know what to expect for price
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QUOTE(PeacefulDiscord @ Apr 3 2024, 11:18 AM)
Hi all sifus here, want to get your advice about tinting and prices. I am planning on getting a new car: Chery Omoda 5, and I am not sure on my options.

My SA asked me to go with MPro but their pricing damn high @ RM4k++ for non-branded tint.

I am looking for great heat rejection and can last up to 5 years+ if possible. My budget is around RM2k - RM3k but you can convince me to top up more laugh.gif.

Any recommendations? I live around Old Klang Road and I see many tint shops around like Raytech but don't know what to expect for price
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for that budget, i rather choose 3M crystalline but make sure it is original. Try ask reputable 3m branch for price, in lowyat seller iirc the Kota damansara give best offer price
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post Apr 3 2024, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 3 2024, 11:26 AM)
for that budget, i rather choose 3M crystalline but make sure it is original. Try ask reputable 3m branch for price, in lowyat seller iirc the Kota damansara give best offer price
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That is only assuming he never want to use Smart Tag. I never consider 3M no matter how good it is due to its non Smart Tag compatibility that I used almost everyday.

For 3K, you can consider Irispro highest grade, DX and Diamond series for metallic sputter tint. For me, the next best metallic sputter tint after VKool.
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2024, 11:31 AM)
That is only assuming he never want to use Smart Tag. I never consider 3M no matter how good it is due to its non Smart Tag compatibility that I used almost everyday.

For 3K, you can consider Irispro highest grade, DX and Diamond series for metallic sputter tint. For me, the next best metallic sputter tint after VKool.
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for 3k, i would go for branded than those irispro dx etc.. maybe llumar or 3m or even raytech.. can try luck with huper optik
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post Apr 4 2024, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 3 2024, 11:26 AM)
for that budget, i rather choose 3M crystalline but make sure it is original. Try ask reputable 3m branch for price, in lowyat seller iirc the Kota damansara give best offer price
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How to know if the 3M one is original?

QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2024, 11:31 AM)
That is only assuming he never want to use Smart Tag. I never consider 3M no matter how good it is due to its non Smart Tag compatibility that I used almost everyday.

For 3K, you can consider Irispro highest grade, DX and Diamond series for metallic sputter tint. For me, the next best metallic sputter tint after VKool.
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Sorry I am a bit new to all of this, what is the difference between metallic sputter tint and regular tint?


QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Apr 3 2024, 09:30 PM)
for 3k, i would go for branded than those irispro dx etc.. maybe llumar or 3m or even raytech.. can try luck with huper optik
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Generally what's the price for the branded ones?
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QUOTE(PeacefulDiscord @ Apr 4 2024, 03:16 PM)
How to know if the 3M one is original?
Sorry I am a bit new to all of this, what is the difference between metallic sputter tint and regular tint?
Generally what's the price for the branded ones?
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Reputable shop or 3M HQ, Authorized Shop. Maybe drop a call to 3M number b4 to confirm if the branch u wanna do it is legit
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QUOTE(PeacefulDiscord @ Apr 4 2024, 03:16 PM)
How to know if the 3M one is original?
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Original 3M Crystalline have Rainbow effect under raining/mist and comes with 5 years 3M original E warranty.

Need 3M specs catalogue and price can pm me yea:)

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post Apr 5 2024, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(dog999 @ Apr 4 2024, 06:20 PM)
Original 3M Crystalline have Rainbow effect under raining/mist and comes with 5 years 3M original E warranty.

Need 3M specs catalogue and price can pm me yea:)

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what about Llumar or huper optik??

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post Apr 5 2024, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(PeacefulDiscord @ Apr 4 2024, 03:16 PM)
Sorry I am a bit new to all of this, what is the difference between metallic sputter tint and regular tint?
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The other branded tints mentioned like Llumar, 3M, Raytech are mostly Ceramic based tints. I think I have given some layman view on above post recently on how ceramic tint and metallic sputter tints worked. If high quality tints, both are goods and have their pro and cons. I am definitely no experts on tints and its spec, there are other here that are really good at that but due to interest in re-tinting my 3 cars, done some research on those brands. All got good and bad reviews, pro and cons (ie like 3M Crystalline that can somehow match VKool but Smart Tag cannot work), etc.


QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Apr 3 2024, 09:30 PM)
for 3k, i would go for branded than those irispro dx etc.. maybe llumar or 3m or even raytech.. can try luck with huper optik
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For branded you might be right, reputation is important but these are mostly ceramic based tints. If you want high quality metallic sputter tints that can replace VKool (that is my first choice but too expensive nowadays tho I deemed that as the best clear tint), so far locally, at least, I found Irispro highest range metallic based sputter tints are quite unique and worked very well. As mentioned on my earlier post, there are difference in how metallic sputter tints and ceramic based worked. I am partial to how metallic sputter tint reflect heats over ceramic heat heat absorbing properties but that is just my preference.

Do note, Irispro is not those non-branded house brands carried by all shops. It is a newer company that have their own tint shops and trying to established their own line of mostly metallic sputter tint with unique HEV blue light filtering (not as widely available as Raytech, that I have seriously considered before opting for Irispro). Raytech best FWS tint IS Ultra 70 series that can match DX and VKool Elite BUT is NOT Smart Tag friendly like 3M Crystalline thus if opting for 2nd highest range that is smart tag friendly, the specs cannot match Irispro D and DX range liao.

So far, I have no regret installing DX on 3 of my cars to replace VKool Elite. Worked great and love it thus my personal recommendation now but as stated it is my own preference and my partiality on metallic sputter tints after my own research, not to say they are the best and better than any of the long established branded one but in terms of quality, I don't think lose out to any of them. (except for VKool Elite, that have proven their long term reliability in all my cars). However I cannot vouch how long and reliable Irispro tints will last and worked but Irispro has 10 years warranty (haha, I believe they are trying to seriously established their brands) in Diamond and DX ranges and a special 10 years performance warranty if heat resistance performance falls below a certain range but then again this special warranty might not be of any use but it does give peace of mind and the confident the brand have on their tints. So I just go with it. I don't think my old cars can last as long as the warranty... whistling.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Just in case, I might sound like Irispro salesman....I'm not, just one that have used VKool Elite for decade and try to replace it back with metallic based sputter tints and reviews over many brands before opting to this unique tints.....probably becoz DX uses mixed sputter with main silver based like VKool (VKool have other mixed metal that are unique to them tho). My relatives all have ceramic based tints that worked good (Raytech, 3M) but after testing on their cars, still opted for metallic based tints.

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 5 2024, 08:40 AM)
The other branded tints mentioned like Llumar, 3M, Raytech are mostly Ceramic based tints. I think I have given some layman view on above post recently on how ceramic tint and metallic sputter tints worked. If high quality tints, both are goods and have their pro and cons. I am definitely no experts on tints and its spec, there are other here that are really good at that but due to interest in re-tinting my 3 cars, done some research on those brands. All got good and bad reviews, pro and cons (ie like 3M Crystalline that can somehow match VKool but Smart Tag cannot work), etc.
For branded you might be right, reputation is important but these are mostly ceramic based tints. If you want high quality metallic sputter tints that can replace VKool (that is my first choice but too expensive nowadays tho I deemed that as the best clear tint), so far locally, at least, I found Irispro highest range metallic based sputter tints are quite unique and worked very well. As mentioned on my earlier post, there are difference in how metallic sputter tints and ceramic based worked. I am partial to how metallic sputter tint reflect heats over ceramic heat heat absorbing properties but that is just my preference.

Do note, Irispro is not those non-branded house brands carried by all shops. It is a newer company that have their own tint shops and trying to established their own line of mostly metallic sputter tint with unique HEV blue light filtering (not as widely available as Raytech, that I have seriously considered before opting for Irispro). Raytech best FWS tint IS Ultra 70 series that can match DX and VKool Elite BUT is NOT Smart Tag friendly like 3M Crystalline thus if opting for 2nd highest range that is smart tag friendly, the specs cannot match Irispro D and DX range liao.

So far, I have no regret installing DX on 3 of my cars to replace VKool Elite. Worked great and love it thus my personal recommendation now but as stated it is my own preference and my partiality on metallic sputter tints after my own research, not to say they are the best and better than any of the long established branded one but in terms of quality, I don't think lose out to any of them.  (except for VKool Elite, that have proven their long term reliability in all my cars). However I cannot vouch how long and reliable Irispro tints will last and worked but Irispro has 10 years warranty (haha, I believe they are trying to seriously established their brands) in Diamond and DX ranges and a special 10 years performance warranty if heat resistance performance falls below a certain range but then again this special warranty might not be of any use but it does give peace of mind and the confident the brand have on their tints. So I just go with it. I don't think my old cars can last as long as the warranty... whistling.gif   icon_rolleyes.gif

Just in case, I might sound like Irispro salesman....I'm not, just one that have used VKool Elite for decade and try to replace it back with metallic based sputter tints and reviews over many brands before opting to this unique tints.....probably becoz DX uses mixed sputter with main silver based like VKool (VKool have other mixed metal that are unique to them tho). My relatives all have ceramic based tints that worked good (Raytech, 3M) but after testing on their cars, still opted for metallic based tints.
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so far my raytech okay with smart tag, but need go through toll very slowly and wait... for a new brand, this irispro need to go in with cheaper price at least... where is their factory based in? i'm not sure how good their scientist is in developing tint vs those big brand.. so i rather go for those bigger brand, at least if one dealer bankrupt, then can still easy to get other dealer to replace it..

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bought some high IIR >98% films from shopee for diy...

will see how it fights with vkool... myr 0.1k vs 3-4k...

pay for ecotint...
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post Apr 6 2024, 04:55 PM

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Just to add. I believe the tint at the front windscreen is most critical especially if the driver mostly drives alone, or together with a passenger.
As we all know, a tint with high VLT needs to be put at the front windscreen, and most if not all tints with high VLT usually don't do well with heat rejection. Only the high-priced good tints with high VLT will do well with heat rejection. This is one of the reasons people who want to save cost will select a dark tint of VLT say 50% or lower at the front windscreen so they won't feel the heat from the sun burning the skin too much. Cheap tints with high VLT say 60% or 65%, in my limited experience it feels like there's no tint on the front windscreen even though you have installed one. So, people who don't wish to spend so much as wish to go cheap will likely select a dark tint at the front windscreen just to have a bit of improved heat rejection. Otherwise, there's really little to no difference if you go with cheap tints with high VLT.

Even with branded Huper Optik, the Sech60 which has a VLT of 59% at the front windscreen is actually just average in performance and feels worse that V-kool Elite. The performance is only good for about 3 to 4 years and after that it feels like there's no tint on the car. For the sides and rear sides where the VLT can go lower, there's no issue here as you can select a low VLT, and low VLT of 20% to 40% even the cheaper tints will be efficient. It's only the front windscreen where you need to put a relatively clear tint of VLT say 60% to 70%, and in this case the cheap tints with this VLT range usually have very poor heat rejection as if there's no tint on the vehicle after they are installed on the car.

Based on my experience, I do not recommend Huper Optik if you want to install Sech60 (VLT 59%) on your front windscreen as to me the heat rejection performance is not very good. My benchmark is V-Kool Elite. If it's Huper Optik C40 or C30 at the front windscreen the heat rejection will be better but it's way too dark in my opinion.

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