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post Nov 26 2018, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(mafioso @ Nov 26 2018, 06:53 PM)
hi!

thanks for the response.. after much research i've decided to walk into an official raytech store and asked for some product info as well as price quote.. surprisingly not very far from the 1st place i went to.. only extra 200 for a peace of mind.

yeap i wont be considering the 1st place already.. because after hearing how raytech explains it, the 1st one feels like a conman place.
anyway, another question i want to ask...

do you think JPJ/road block will stop me if i use the same amount of darkness level for the rear passenger seat for the 2 front seats?

as the sales guy recommended me (based on what i want) to put the 4 windows to be the same as what JPJ approved for the 2 rear passenger tint

as for front windshield tint he recommend putting 100% JPJ compliance one because if i choose to go darker, i might have driving visibility issues. (which i think this is a good recommendation, since the windshield should always be visible)
meaning to say, 4 passenger windows = VLT 30%

front and back = JPJ compliance %
what do you think? hmm.gif
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What is your main goal? Pure Heat rejection or compliance? If u go black, then go all the way, because if u protect all sides and the back, the front will still bake u due to low heat rejection.

For jpj it depends. They will not summon u on the spot but they will produce u a letter to go and perform inspection. They ask me to go inspection after 6 years of using vlt 30 tint. They issue me a letter in the spot without any vlt test just use naked eye so it's a personal judgement.


I usually just go and come back from work rarely encounter blocks. If u often encounter jpj block, I would suggest go legal to save hassle. Or wait for mr. Loke new regulations on tinting.

Maybe they will have a final proper regulation.
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post Nov 27 2018, 01:48 AM

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how does 3m compare with huper optic
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post Nov 27 2018, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ Nov 27 2018, 01:48 AM)
how does 3m compare with huper optic
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I use 3M CR60, good. Can feel the different, compare to ayam brand + lower spec's 3M (not crystalline).
But my smart tag cant detect, drive very slow also cant detect. cry.gif

Never try Huper Optic before.
So if you not using smart tag, dont mind the price, go for 3M crystalline series.
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post Nov 27 2018, 12:35 PM

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Hi guys, I am currently buying a used car. According to the owner, the tinted he previously apply on t he car is Wingard Royale. Is this a good one?

The wind screen tint has been remove by Puspakom. Wondering what to put on it.
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post Nov 27 2018, 11:02 PM

 
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anyway, how big is the difference between 75% and 85% of IR rejection?

how do we compare the performance of it? (is it like.. 85% cools the car by 30 seconds faster or something like that? hmm.gif )

since im paying extra 500 for that 10% with different tint films proposed, i just need some clarification on this. lol.

thanks! nod.gif
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post Nov 28 2018, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(I'm V-Kool @ Nov 25 2018, 11:31 PM)
Go to the shop directly, force their installer come out and check , finally come out with the tester, unfortunately, the tester measurement range can only use on the untinted films, not on the tinted window, ( fine) , once the installer test on the same film, the meter reading is around 50% IR rejection only, compare to 70% as stated.. never mind..

This as you previously mentioned. You should take picture when it show 50% instead of 70% as advertised in the brochure to suppport your case.
Many dealer always sell home brand/local brand to end user and claim it as international brand.

You may try write official complain to 3M Malaysia
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As I have mentioned earlier, the PIC stated in the phone that they don't have the tester until I go their shop directly , have been going there for at least 2 times, Useless until the last time, after I complaint to the car seller, she pass me the PIC number to contact her directly.. but it is hard to describe in short here..


And I am not using 3M tint, can I still complain to 3M Malaysia ??



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QUOTE(wilson_0618 @ Nov 28 2018, 02:02 AM)
As I have mentioned earlier, the PIC stated in the phone that they don't have the tester until I go their shop directly , have been going there for at least 2 times, Useless until the last time, after I complaint to the car seller, she pass me the PIC number to contact her directly.. but it is hard to describe in short here..
And I am not using 3M tint, can I still complain to 3M Malaysia ??
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3M authorized dealer but not using 3M film?
well the last resort you can go is the tribunal
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post Nov 29 2018, 08:38 AM

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Hi. Anyone can recommend me 3Mauthorised dealer in kl/putrajaya area? Looking fwd to tint my serena based on jpj’s 70/50/30 in coming week. Thanks
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Hi, anybody heard or used this brand? What is feedback? Thanks

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post Dec 2 2018, 10:47 AM

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I'm looking for a tint for my new car (civic). I have a RM500 Raytech voucher but based on my research in this forum it appears there is middling feedback towards Raytech.

My main criteria for the tint are:
1. Heat rejection
2. GPS must be usable

I don't really care too much about how much light it lets through, but I do wish it is JPJ-compliant which means all the 30 and 40% talked about here are probably off the cards.

What brands and variants should I be looking at?

I see lots of discounts on Fave even for 3M. Are these dealers reputable? I don't have a budget per se, just hoping to get a tint that fits just requirements above and can last a long time. If pressed, I guess my budget can be 1.5-2k. Max 2.5k but I'd like to avoid that if possible.
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post Dec 2 2018, 11:27 AM

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I wish to highlight something based on my experience. The driving visibility issue depends on the tint film. My current car is tinted with 3M crystalline 60 for fws, and the driving visibility at night is still very much acceptable, compared to my previous cap ayam tint with about the same VLT. For daytime driving I wish it was darker, especially on NSE. So, I am wondering what film the installer uses to cause him to worry about driving visibility.
Do note that to get 100% JPJ compliance tint of 70%VLT for fws, you will need to use a tint with much higher VLT, say, 90%, because the windscreen usually does not have 100% VLT to begin with. With such high VLT, it's more difficult to find a film with good TSER.

For the side windows, do you intend to choose a VLT 30 film, or you want the final tinted window glass to have VLT of 30%? Either way, one look can tell that the front windows won't pass the requirement and you can still be stopped.

QUOTE(QuickFire @ Dec 2 2018, 10:47 AM)
I'm looking for a tint for my new car (civic). I have a RM500 Raytech voucher but based on my research in this forum it appears there is middling feedback towards Raytech.

My main criteria for the tint are:
1. Heat rejection
2. GPS must be usable

I don't really care too much about how much light it lets through, but I do wish it is JPJ-compliant which means all the 30 and 40% talked about here are probably off the cards.

What brands and variants should I be looking at?

I see lots of discounts on Fave even for 3M. Are these dealers reputable? I don't have a budget per se, just hoping to get a tint that fits just requirements above and can last a long time. If pressed, I guess my budget can be 1.5-2k. Max 2.5k but I'd like to avoid that if possible.
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The bold statement is contradicting itself. You either don't care about VLT which opens up a whole lot of choice for you, or you go for compliance which affects heat rejection.
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post Dec 2 2018, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(wilson_0618 @ Nov 28 2018, 01:02 AM)
As I have mentioned earlier, the PIC stated in the phone that they don't have the tester until I go their shop directly , have been going there for at least 2 times, Useless until the last time, after I complaint to the car seller, she pass me the PIC number to contact her directly.. but it is hard to describe in short here..
And I am not using 3M tint, can I still complain to 3M Malaysia ??
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There is no harm trying to contact 3M, but I don't think they will entertain you.

It's like you bought a defective Brand A item from an authorised dealer of Brand B, and you go to complain about it at Malaysia HQ/main distributor of Brand B because the authorised dealer does not entertain you.
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post Dec 2 2018, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 2 2018, 11:27 AM)
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I wish to highlight something based on my experience. The driving visibility issue depends on the tint film. My current car is tinted with 3M crystalline 60 for fws, and the driving visibility at night is still very much acceptable, compared to my previous cap ayam tint with about the same VLT. For daytime driving I wish it was darker, especially on NSE. So, I am wondering what film the installer uses to cause him to worry about driving visibility.
Do note that to get 100% JPJ compliance tint of 70%VLT for fws, you will need to use a tint with much higher VLT, say, 90%, because the windscreen usually does not have 100% VLT to begin with. With such high VLT, it's more difficult to find a film with good TSER.

For the side windows, do you intend to choose a VLT 30 film, or you want the final tinted window glass to have VLT of 30%? Either way, one look can tell that the front windows won't pass the requirement and you can still be stopped.
The bold statement is contradicting itself. You either don't care about VLT which opens up a whole lot of choice for you, or you go for compliance which affects heat rejection.
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Yeah I figured that TSER and VLT are closely related. But I wish to minimize the TSER while keeping to JPJ compliant VLTs. But reading your post now you're saying that for it to be compliant the VLT of the tint must be 90% which implies that the FWS that come with the car themselves have VLT of about 80% already. I didn't know that.

How are so many people so brazenly willing to flout the VLT rules? Aren't you guys concerned that you will get pulled up, issued with a summons, have your tint torn down?
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 2 2018, 11:27 AM)
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I wish to highlight something based on my experience. The driving visibility issue depends on the tint film. My current car is tinted with 3M crystalline 60 for fws, and the driving visibility at night is still very much acceptable, compared to my previous cap ayam tint with about the same VLT. For daytime driving I wish it was darker, especially on NSE. So, I am wondering what film the installer uses to cause him to worry about driving visibility.
Do note that to get 100% JPJ compliance tint of 70%VLT for fws, you will need to use a tint with much higher VLT, say, 90%, because the windscreen usually does not have 100% VLT to begin with. With such high VLT, it's more difficult to find a film with good TSER.

For the side windows, do you intend to choose a VLT 30 film, or you want the final tinted window glass to have VLT of 30%? Either way, one look can tell that the front windows won't pass the requirement and you can still be stopped.
The bold statement is contradicting itself. You either don't care about VLT which opens up a whole lot of choice for you, or you go for compliance which affects heat rejection.
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thanks for the explanation

anyway i might consider these instead:

huper optik = 60/40/40

haverkamp = 70/40/40


meaning to say 60 for FWS is like the most optimal already for good driving experience at night?

if go lets say like 50% VLT then its defintely gonna mess with the view? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Dec 2 2018, 11:46 AM)
Yeah I figured that TSER and VLT are closely related. But I wish to minimize the TSER while keeping to JPJ compliant VLTs. But reading your post now you're saying that for it to be compliant the VLT of the tint must be 90% which implies that the FWS that come with the car themselves have VLT of about 80% already. I didn't know that.

How are so many people so brazenly willing to flout the VLT rules? Aren't you guys concerned that you will get pulled up, issued with a summons, have your tint torn down?
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I'm not saying the film's VLT must be always > 90% to pass JPJ's requirement for fws. All I'm saying is the original windscreen itself does not give you 100 VLT as it does block some light from going through. How much light it blocks out depends on your car. I observe that most conti cars have rather dark windscreens to begin with.
I suppose it's to do with the hot sun we have here and to a certain extent, lack of enforcement as our cars do not have to undergo periodic inspections. Mind you, in our negara jiran which mandates periodic inspection, you can also find unapproved tinting there.

I once asked for a JPJ-compliant tint from a tint shop - kena teased by the shop owner.

QUOTE(mafioso @ Dec 2 2018, 03:07 PM)
thanks for the explanation

anyway i might consider these instead:

huper optik = 60/40/40

haverkamp = 70/40/40
meaning to say 60 for FWS is like the most optimal already for good driving experience at night?

if go lets say like 50% VLT then its defintely gonna mess with the view? hmm.gif
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As written, I think it depend on the type of film used, in addition to the VLT. Perhaps low quality film will give poorer visual clarity at night?

I would think the optimal darkness is 70% after tinting - that's why JPJ states this requirement. Whether anything lower that it is optimal to individuals is subjective, as we all have different visual acuity and preference, especially at night.

Example: I was once provided with a rental car with bad ass tinting, it was so dark that the headlights were seen throwing yellow light (similar to those old school yellow foglamps) when viewed from inside the car. To park in a shopping centre car park, I had to wind down the front windows in order to see properly.
When asked, the rental car company told me their customers requested for such tint, and the customers love it.
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Dec 2 2018, 12:46 PM)
Yeah I figured that TSER and VLT are closely related. But I wish to minimize the TSER while keeping to JPJ compliant VLTs. But reading your post now you're saying that for it to be compliant the VLT of the tint must be 90% which implies that the FWS that come with the car themselves have VLT of about 80% already. I didn't know that.

How are so many people so brazenly willing to flout the VLT rules? Aren't you guys concerned that you will get pulled up, issued with a summons, have your tint torn down?
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If you really want to have 100% guarantee then follow the JPJ compliance spec which is 70% 50% 30%
If wish to go darker against JPJ rules, 50-60% for front and 40% for the rest should be safe bet

The above recommendations is based on my years of experience in V-Kool
I'm using full V-Kool 40 for my Honda City and never face any block during day/night drive
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QUOTE(I'm V-Kool @ Dec 2 2018, 11:17 PM)
If you really want to have 100% guarantee then follow the JPJ compliance spec which is 70% 50% 30%
If wish to go darker against JPJ rules, 50-60% for front and 40% for the rest should be safe bet

The above recommendations is based on my years of experience in V-Kool
I'm using full V-Kool 40 for my Honda City and never face any block during day/night drive
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Thanks. If so many of you are doing then I suppose enforcement is lacking. I may try 60% for FWS and 40% for the rest. Budget 1k-1.5k. What choice do I have? I suppose 3M and Huper will be 2k+ for a sedan? What's the opinion on Raytech around here?

I see many 3M deals on Fave for just a few hundred ringgit. Can't be true can they?

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Dec 3 2018, 10:29 PM)
Thanks. If so many of you are doing then I suppose enforcement is lacking. I may try 60% for FWS and 40% for the rest. Budget 1k-1.5k. What choice do I have? I suppose 3M and Huper will be 2k+ for a sedan? What's the opinion on Raytech around here?

I see many 3M deals on Fave for just a few hundred ringgit. Can't be true can they?
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3M cheap one sure fake or lower grade, which imho not worth it at all.

My previous car, retint my FWS with original 3M but lower grade (Not crystalline). It has watermark 3M on the film, is listed as authorized 3M shop. Under sun while driving, hand got burning feel.

My current car, I also retint FWS, but this time with crystalline CR60. Under hot sun while driving, hand no more burning feel.
So for 3M, either get crystalline or just get other brand. FYI, smart tag being blocked by CR60 film mega_shok.gif
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Anyone experienced using 3M Ebony EB40?

Is it good?

Its 2 mil not 4 mil... Is it sufficient against smashing?

Was quoted for RM 788 full car for ebony 40 as it got promo

Or

FWS using FX HP50 and other window ebony40 for RM 938


Is it good?




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QUOTE(dato K @ Dec 4 2018, 10:10 PM)
Anyone experienced using 3M Ebony EB40?

Is it good?

Its 2 mil not 4 mil... Is it sufficient against smashing?

Was quoted for RM 788 full car for ebony 40 as it got promo

Or

FWS using FX HP50 and other window ebony40 for RM 938
Is it good?
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anyone can help me on this??

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