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Lord Gitsy
post Dec 13 2017, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ Dec 13 2017, 05:55 PM)
Somehow the quoted price, which is informed by the perodua sales advisor is for all windows. Is it normal for Raytech to tint the 5 mil on front windscreen as well?
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Cannot bro. 5mil safety film is not advisable to install on windscreen. Thanks for @haverkamp has explained the reason well already smile.gif

In AX package, there has a specific film to install on windscreen. It is Raytech A70 2mil which the VLT % is compliance with JPJ rules.


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post Dec 13 2017, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Lord Gitsy @ Dec 13 2017, 06:06 PM)
Cannot bro. 5mil safety film is not advisable to install on windscreen. Thanks for @haverkamp has explained the reason well already smile.gif

In AX package, there has a specific film to install on windscreen. It is Raytech A70 2mil which the VLT % is compliance with JPJ rules.
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Thanks bro for clarification. Much appreciated.
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post Dec 13 2017, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Dec 13 2017, 04:01 PM)
Not Smart TAG friendly i suppose
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It's Smart Tag friendly expect those access card/auto gate with poor infra red reception
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post Dec 14 2017, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(krgia10 @ Dec 13 2017, 05:53 PM)
Excellent in autogate remote control signal but bad on smart tag.
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Noted. Thks smile.gif

jamespaul
post Dec 14 2017, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(I'm V-Kool @ Dec 13 2017, 06:25 PM)
It's Smart Tag friendly expect those access card/auto gate with poor infra red reception
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Question @VKOOL, how do you achieve 55% TSER with 70% VLT and yet be SMART TAG friendly?

@lordglisty, you mentioned that Raytech has higher IRR range than 3M, means it is not SMART TAG friendly right?
Lord Gitsy
post Dec 14 2017, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Dec 14 2017, 03:32 PM)
Question @VKOOL, how do you achieve 55% TSER with 70% VLT and yet be SMART TAG friendly?

@lordglisty, you mentioned that Raytech has higher IRR range than 3M, means it is not SMART TAG friendly right?
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Hi, 3M Crystalline's material is not same with Raytech Ultra 70 and also other brands products and developed from different manufacturer's technology so detection of Smartag cannot be same. I believe it is a great benefit for customer if we can sell a high performance product with lesser Smartag problem right ?

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Lord Gitsy
post Dec 15 2017, 12:03 AM

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Hi all bros & Sis, please kindly watch this video about the explanation of the new MS2669:2017 standard for window film which will be launching in 2018. After launched of the new standard of window film, it will definitely eliminate all the low quality film products to sell in the market smile.gif



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post Dec 15 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Lord Gitsy @ Dec 14 2017, 11:50 PM)
Hi, 3M Crystalline's material is not same with Raytech Ultra 70 and also other brands products and developed from different manufacturer's technology so detection of Smartag cannot be same. I believe it is a great benefit for customer if we can sell a high performance product with lesser Smartag problem right ?
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I 100% agree on the material and technology being different.

However, as you mentioned heat rejection is based on three things, VLT+IRR+UV= TSER

If VLT is constant and UV is already at 99% (so another constant), the only differing one would be the IRR.

Your explanation that Raytech can have higher TSER than 3m or LLumar or Suntek, is that Raytech can block more IRR.

Eg: IRR for 3M is 97% but it is only a small bandwidth, 900-1000nm (i think), and you said that Raytech's TSER is higher as its IRR is higher across a wider range of Infrared (750nm to 2500nm).

Hence, i praised your explanation on Raytech's ability to block more heat (higher TSER) than other brands.

Now, after some thinking, if Raytech blocks more IR spectrum and SMART TAG uses IR spectrum, wouldn't that make Raytech tint unusable with SMART TAG?

While I understand that technology can be different but unless heat nature from the Sun is changed, a good TSER tint will indirectly stop SMART TAG from working.

Do correct me if i am wrong

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post Dec 15 2017, 12:09 PM

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Smartag use Infra red, but there is a specific bandwidth of IR. As long as the the tint film do not filtered out 100% of IR emited by Smartag, i think smartag will be detected at toll.
correct me if im wrong.
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post Dec 16 2017, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Wilson1122 @ Dec 15 2017, 12:09 PM)
Smartag use Infra red, but there is a specific bandwidth of IR. As long as the the tint film do not filtered out 100% of IR emited by Smartag, i think smartag will be detected at toll.
correct me if im wrong.
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Agreed that it uses a specific bandwidth of IR. And agreed on the fact that as long as not 100% of IR being filtered out by Smartag it would still work.

Raytech claims that they filter out more IR than other brands, if other brands already struggle to work with Smartag, doesnt that make Raytech's claim an oxymoron?

According to Raytech, they can achieve better TSER than most brands in Malaysia for a specific VLT
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post Dec 16 2017, 01:31 PM

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Just tint my Mazda CX-5 yesterday using Hüper Optik. Initially was suggested Select 75 (FWS) and Ceramic 40 on the rest. End up opting for Ceramic 40 for entire car as was told Select 75 (and even Sech 60) may stumble upon issues with Smart Tag and access card for my condo due to the metal and other commodities in the film. C40 isn’t as dark as I want. Would have gone C30 but le misses is afraid of stumbling upon JPJ 😒. It looks ok dark now as my interior is in dark shade. Now waiting for the film to completely dry off and stick well with the screen.

Let’s see the heat dissipation/rejection and the rest are as good as it quoted or at least a good fight against our glorious sun.

*The above is solely my own opinion as yours may differ.
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post Dec 16 2017, 06:00 PM

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any sifus can advise, i play to do 3M crystalline 70 front big window, and crystalline 40 rear big window
side i would like to use crystalline scotchshield, but this only have 40, will it have problem when jpj blocking? seems need to be 50-60% visible light transmission for front side window...

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Lord Gitsy
post Dec 17 2017, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Dec 16 2017, 11:52 AM)
Agreed that it uses a specific bandwidth of IR. And agreed on the fact that as long as not 100% of IR being filtered out by Smartag it would still work.

Raytech claims that they filter out more IR than other brands, if other brands already struggle to work with Smartag, doesnt that make Raytech's claim an oxymoron?

According to Raytech, they can achieve better TSER than most brands in Malaysia for a specific VLT
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Hi, Thanks for @Wilson1122 has explained the right thing. Raytech Ultra 70 is IRR 95% only and we did not claim our Ultra 70 can 100% pass the Smartag which has explained in few previous message. Some of our Ultra 70 users still need to slow down their car to 5km/h in order to pass the Smartag toll. And also the detection of Smartag can be not same in different car model too. Last time we received more complaints on Mazda cars while lesser complaints on local brand cars smile.gif

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post Dec 17 2017, 01:07 AM

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Sorry double post

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Eyuna3
post Dec 20 2017, 07:59 PM

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Bros, may i ask a question.
My car just tinted with brand 3M from Honda Authorized Dealer and i found the VLT are quite high... Am i able to add another tint to reduce VLT? or i need to re-do it all again
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post Dec 20 2017, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(magic_underwear @ Dec 16 2017, 01:31 PM)
Just tint my Mazda CX-5 yesterday using Hüper Optik. Initially was suggested Select 75 (FWS) and Ceramic 40 on the rest. End up opting for Ceramic 40 for entire car as was told Select 75 (and even Sech 60) may stumble upon issues with Smart Tag and access card for my condo due to the metal and other commodities in the film. C40 isn’t as dark as I want. Would have gone C30 but le misses is afraid of stumbling upon JPJ 😒. It looks ok dark now as my interior is in dark shade. Now waiting for the film to completely dry off and stick well with the screen.

Let’s see the heat dissipation/rejection and the rest are as good as it quoted or at least a good fight against our glorious sun.

*The above is solely my own opinion as yours may differ.
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Just gotten my FWS C40 and rest C30

Crazy good against sun, however was regretting a bit as had issues on smart tag.
And since New tint, advised not to wind down window so opened door doh.gif

However after few days, smart tag working without the need to wind down window.
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post Dec 20 2017, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Eyuna3 @ Dec 20 2017, 07:59 PM)
Bros, may i ask a question.
My car just tinted with brand 3M from Honda Authorized Dealer and i found the VLT are quite high... Am i able to add another tint to reduce VLT? or i need to re-do it all again
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is 3M tint will provide any cert after tint done?
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post Dec 21 2017, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(magic_underwear @ Dec 16 2017, 01:31 PM)
Just tint my Mazda CX-5 yesterday using Hüper Optik. Initially was suggested Select 75 (FWS) and Ceramic 40 on the rest. End up opting for Ceramic 40 for entire car as was told Select 75 (and even Sech 60) may stumble upon issues with Smart Tag and access card for my condo due to the metal and other commodities in the film. C40 isn’t as dark as I want. Would have gone C30 but le misses is afraid of stumbling upon JPJ 😒. It looks ok dark now as my interior is in dark shade. Now waiting for the film to completely dry off and stick well with the screen.

Let’s see the heat dissipation/rejection and the rest are as good as it quoted or at least a good fight against our glorious sun.

*The above is solely my own opinion as yours may differ.
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So how's the heat rejecting on all c40. Leather seat? If yes got burn backside or not


Another branded tint I installed bbq my backkside nicely after only 30 mins in the hot sun. POS


The HO darkness will go lighter as it deteriorates. Your C40 will become c60 in 5 years time biggrin.gif
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post Dec 21 2017, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(vez @ Dec 20 2017, 10:33 PM)
is 3M tint will provide any cert after tint done?
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Yup there's a cert when i go and get my car
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post Dec 21 2017, 05:30 AM

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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Dec 21 2017, 12:44 AM)
The HO darkness will go lighter as it deteriorates. Your C40 will become c60 in 5 years time biggrin.gif
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i'm actually hoping that to be the case as i tinted c40 front and rest all c30's LOL

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