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This post has been edited by scoutfai: Aug 17 2014, 01:35 PM

Rotary is still the King of all-round. Major limitation with either machines is limited backing plates & pad size, especially small sizes/spot pads.

Is this a test question sifu ? Makita can't do the job ?

Ah nope, all the while only owned a Makita rotary. It's powerful, but I find I don't really do that much heavy work now.
I played with Flex before, decently powerful and safe at the same time, but then yea expensive to procure and lack of support/servicing here.

Rupes wise, read all I can on Autogeek... Most of them were praising their own colored pads + compounds matching system, but I am not really sure, especially when they also commented that Rupes is to the level of "Beginner friendly"?

Yeap, spot buffing wise need to think around or use hand. But actually, hand polishing at times is actually much more difficult to learn and master, even Mike Phillips himself said so.

Kind of agree, but sometimes taking out Rotary just for some hairlines makes me feel lazy , need to take care of handling yada yada else holograms. So was thinking a DA for maintenance job.

Well, Makita sold off.

Hello all, I'm newbie to detailing and have been trying out with my arm but always end up with a sore arm and most of the time I have to break into 2-3 days to complete my car.

Looking for a DA to speed things up, initially wanted to go for those cheaper RB but then after consideration I might as well get something which is better and would last me longer. Any recommendations? Something which I could source in Malaysia and pad availability is easily sourced too?

I'm eye-ing on the Meguair's G220 V2, but this is also because whenever I google around Msia this tend to appear, other brands do but I don't know where I can get them . Would love to hear recommendations which is more or less (hopefully less) than what the G220 v2 would cost.

Google for Ultramate...DAS-6 Pro equivalent. Available at Osren and local Duragloss online shop. Half the price of Megs G220 but equal, if not better, quality & performance. Good after sale support and plenty of choices of backing plates and buffing pads.

Just how effective is the Ultramate, let's say compared to Flex? I know it isn't equal, but just want to get a picture.

If just solely for simple maintenance, is it enough?

hmmm... I been looking some winscreen stuff from PG i seen in the internet how was it?

By the way nice detailing you did there!

https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/EYYWfT8idqK Did some polishing for a friend, it was really good on the first panel piece, then it went way south on the other 

Thanks! So it is called Osren Ultramate (http://www.osren.com/products.asp?categoryid=51)? Any recommended online store where I could get them from? I don't see any shops nearby me from Osren Malaysia website (I'm from Melaka). You also mentioned local Duragloss online shop, but that's another brand right? They do carry the Ultramate?

LC has produced an alternative backing plate system to be used for Flex.
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With this system user can goes from 6.5" pad to 4" pad. So in term of pad selection Flex wins Rupes for having able to use 4". (Rupes you need two different backing plates to use 6" and 5" pads, if I remember the diameter correctly).

So far all the user in AG never complain about durability of Flex. It is like last for life time unless you drop it. Rupes since is quite new so it will take some years for it to prove itself in term of durability. You can check out the GoodWell Car Goods, they carry now a made in China Rupes copy cost about RM900 (21mm throw). They claims to perform on par with genuine Rupes.

Next two weeks I will have chance to try on both Rupes again. Can get a better feeling on the machine again.

This post has been edited by scoutfai: Aug 18 2014, 07:59 AM

Owning one and using it.
Powerwise is enough (not as powerful as Flex of course) for normal job like removing swirl, apply wax.
Can use 3" pad which is the aspect I like the most because often time i just fix those isolated area, I do not need 5" or 6" pad.
Vibrate a bit though, do not expect as smooth as Rupes, no where near. Almost on par with Flex in term of vibration level.

In term of how effective compare with Flex, never use Flex before on real job so can't comment. But so far Ultramate sufficient for my private need (I do not detail for business). It does not bog down easily (but it can).

'Maintenance' as in commercial or private?

If commercial (1 stepper package) I think you better go for the Flex...better cut, worked a little quicker and can still finish quite decently (considering many out there doesn't really understand or care about the difference). For private use, since you already got a rotary, a DA would be more suitable since you won't be doing any much 'cutting' and solely doing light cleaning/polishing and waxing.

This is just my personal feeling la...and this is solely a non-pro opinion based on borrowed machines on fewer than two cars just to get the feel of the machines before purchasing. The Flex is twice as expensive but it doesn't have twice the capabilities or performance of the DA. To me, it's not worth the money since I already got a rotary. Oh...the biggest let-off with both is the vibration la...my arm and elbow just couldn't take much of it. That's why I've been putting off getting either one until the Bigfoot came into the market.

You mean the ultramate DAS6 is quite heavy vibration? What if compared to those RB buffer machine? Which one vibrate more? Cause I've used a RO buffer machine and know the vibration level of that.

Thanks! the PG DuraZ rain repellent. Ok la, first applied, beads water very good. After 2 weeks, can feel it wear off a bit dy. In the 2 weeks i got use wiper occasionally lor, rain once or twice. I think 3rd week need to reapply if i want maximum water beading all the time! So far still happy with it.

Quazacolt KrisMas sifu,

i just bought Meguairs Ultimate Polish ( Pre-Waxing Glaze) - this product is for polish or wax?

I found out this product can eliminate swirls marks very effectively...

do we need to apply wax again after using this product?

Many Thanks!

the product is called polish right?

have you read the product labels or looked up meguiar's video guides online?
or maybe search the thread a bit (i remembered someone asking that few pages ago)

Glaze is polisher

More to private use bro.

Anyway I agree on the vibration part, it's fun and easy to use but to use it whole day is different story. Quite tempted to get a rupes 15.