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post Jan 1 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Dec 31 2013, 11:04 PM)
Don't know much about Tribos....sorry. Most coating aren't readily available for DIY purchase/use so you,d be better off looking for some feedback from fellow mazda owners who took the package. But at that price/budget, the other better known (and trusted by detailers) brands would be from Gzox, Opticoat, Sonax & 22ple. Mind you, if you're serious about it, just make sure you read and understood the terms and conditions of the warranties and also what you'd need to do (normally a strict maintenance schedule) in order not to void it. After a little reading up on Tribos website, personally, I'm not convinced. But then, that's just my educated guess so don't take my word for it.
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I agree with bro KrisMas on it.

My friend got the Tribos on his new Mazda 6 (company car), and he was damn not satisfied. Coating aside, the workmanship is poor, I am not even trying to find hologram, cause I already see massive swirls even not under the sun, as he park in his house under roof. And my friend is one that will ONR his car weekly. And now it is about 7 months, he is asking me for Opti Coat already, but I asked him to go claim his warranty as he paid so much for this. His alternate car Civic Opti Coated for 3 years is still beading like how it should.
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post Jan 4 2014, 10:58 PM

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4.5 years after coating

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And finally, my failed attempts in taking a good video of Opti Glass Pro


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post Jan 6 2014, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jan 5 2014, 10:24 PM)
I think if you all want a proper head to head comparison, put only 1 drop of water (0.05ml) at the top of the front bonnet and measure the time in seconds how long it takes to travel to the bottom of the bonnet.

The difficulty of this test is that you need to use the exact same car brand and model to perform the test. And these cars should only have the coating without any additional quick detailers on top.
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While I agree with what you said, those videos taken by me and only myself.

I can't even record it properly due to I am taking it all alone, put aside manipulating the effect.

Good point on QD, but I definitely not a fans of QD-ing my windscreen.
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post Apr 5 2014, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(cashloke @ Apr 5 2014, 06:18 PM)
interesting read found on nanoarmor.com.my

The one and only true anti-scratch coating around. Seeing is believing. Imagine: no more worries about accidental scratches by finger nails, handbag zippers, children’s bags/toys or the grazing of motorcycles on your side-mirrors. Over the years, we have been thanked countless of times how our anti-scratch protection saved the day.

With hardness of up to 12H (the highest paint protection system in the world – no one comes close!), it can also withstand small stone chips from roads & highways and because few chemicals can react to the rock-solid coating hardness, you have lesser worries about watermark, bird bombs, acid rain, salt water and tree gums. Give your car the finest protection there is in the world today.

This diamond-hard armor coating will last for the lifetime of the car. Our main ingredient consists of Titanium. This chemical element is exceptionally strong (having the highest strength-to-weight ratio of any metal), has high tensile strength, light weight, fatigue resistance, high crack resistance, able to withstand moderately high temperatures and has high corrosion resistance. It is no wonder that Titanium alloys are used in air.

[SIZE=7] So got this type of hardness one ar?  cool2.gif
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Ha, go to the shop and test first? tongue.gif

If it works as intended and marketed, no need to work for rest of life ady. Sell to US and EU.


By the way, you guys should try Prima Hydro Max, as well as new stuffs from Duragloss, the Enviroshield Coating.

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post Apr 6 2014, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Apr 6 2014, 12:06 AM)
But the Duragloss Enviroshield Coating only last up to 2 years (mean could be less) according to Duragloss official website oh.
Doesn't seem like attractive enough in term of durability.
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Yes, but consider it is almost WOWA type. It is good enough, and the price is only 35++ USD. Wipe on walk off for 2 years, to me it sounds good. It is currently hot in Autogeeks.
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post Apr 6 2014, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Apr 6 2014, 12:19 AM)
Can't deny on the price point it is indeed very cost effective.
You tried before already? Malaysia weather is always a worst case scenario test for any kind of coating.
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Not yet got my hands on it. It is still hot new from oven even for the US market.

Things only getting expensive due to our poor MYR.
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post Apr 8 2014, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Apr 7 2014, 09:55 AM)
It is not the same. The DG spokeperson already clarified on Autogeek.
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post Aug 9 2014, 02:10 AM

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Sold my tools to bro Roxx... Now need to use my elbow grease, oh man... I think I forgot how to hand polish lol... (Almost say hand jxx)
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post Aug 9 2014, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(roxx @ Aug 9 2014, 12:48 PM)
Thank You master ZeroSP for selling off your precious tools.. It's as good as new..  rclxm9.gif

And most importantly, Thank You for the 'EXTRA FREE' things included in the package..  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Elehhh.. You said hand polish.. Later come out RUPES Bigfoot..  shocking.gif
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Expensive gila lol...
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post Aug 17 2014, 09:48 AM

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Is it wiser to get a Flex or Rupes now? Just asking... Ain't got the money now, just wanna invest in a more "all around" tools.
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post Aug 17 2014, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Aug 17 2014, 01:31 PM)
Same dilemma like you.  biggrin.gif
Was hoping those who own Flex converting to Rupes will sell off their used Flex.
But heck Malaysia does not have much Flex owner neither.  cry.gif
I think both machine price almost the same at here. Currently Rupes more popular.
You mentioned "all around", but neither machine can use 3" pad, not sure is that within your "all around" expectation?

I thought you were a Flex owner all the while, selling off your rotary to get a Rupes to combo with your Flex?
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Ah nope, all the while only owned a Makita rotary. It's powerful, but I find I don't really do that much heavy work now.
I played with Flex before, decently powerful and safe at the same time, but then yea expensive to procure and lack of support/servicing here.

Rupes wise, read all I can on Autogeek... Most of them were praising their own colored pads + compounds matching system, but I am not really sure, especially when they also commented that Rupes is to the level of "Beginner friendly"?

Yeap, spot buffing wise need to think around or use hand. But actually, hand polishing at times is actually much more difficult to learn and master, even Mike Phillips himself said so.
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post Aug 17 2014, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 17 2014, 03:53 PM)
Rotary is still the King of all-round. Major limitation with either machines is limited backing plates & pad size, especially small sizes/spot pads.
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Kind of agree, but sometimes taking out Rotary just for some hairlines makes me feel lazy sweat.gif , need to take care of handling yada yada else holograms. So was thinking a DA for maintenance job.

QUOTE(g88 @ Aug 17 2014, 09:29 PM)
Is this a test question sifu ? Makita can't do the job  ?
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Well, Makita sold off.
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post Aug 17 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 17 2014, 11:28 PM)
Google for Ultramate...DAS-6 Pro equivalent. Available at Osren and local Duragloss online shop. Half the price of Megs G220 but equal, if not better, quality & performance. Good after sale support and plenty of choices of backing plates and buffing pads.
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Just how effective is the Ultramate, let's say compared to Flex? I know it isn't equal, but just want to get a picture.

If just solely for simple maintenance, is it enough?
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post Aug 18 2014, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 18 2014, 09:34 AM)
'Maintenance' as in commercial or private?  tongue.gif

If commercial (1 stepper package) I think you better go for the Flex...better cut, worked a little quicker and can still finish quite decently (considering many out there doesn't really understand or care about the difference). For private use, since you already got a rotary, a DA would be more suitable since you won't be doing any much 'cutting' and solely doing light cleaning/polishing and waxing.

This is just my personal feeling la...and this is solely a non-pro opinion based on borrowed machines on fewer than two cars just to get the feel of the machines before purchasing. The Flex is twice as expensive but it doesn't have twice the capabilities or performance of the DA.  To me, it's not worth the money since I already got a rotary. Oh...the biggest let-off with both is the vibration la...my arm and elbow just couldn't take much of it. That's why I've been putting off getting either one until the Bigfoot came into the market.
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More to private use bro.

Anyway I agree on the vibration part, it's fun and easy to use but to use it whole day is different story. Quite tempted to get a rupes 15.
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post Aug 18 2014, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 18 2014, 04:15 PM)
Which RO buffer? If B&D or Bosch, then the DA has far greater vibration. The vibration is far greater than an RB.
It's a polish - contains abrasive that would remove defects and some fine polishing oils to amp up the gloss. Doesn't contain any protection so you'd need to apply a layer of protection (either wax or sealant) after using it.
If you're looking for versatility between the three (Bigfoot, Flex & Ultramate) I would suggest the Ultramate simply because there are plenty of backing plates and pads sizes available so it's very much possible you can tackle the whole car (including all the curves, hard-to-reach areas, intricate surfaces, etc), that is if you can handle it's vibration. Bigfoot & Flex has limitation on some of those areas and I sometime still need to bring out my rotary with the spot pads. The main reason I went for the Bigfoot is simply because the vibration it created is not that much different from an RB....much much more tolerable for me.

So, if one machine, I would say Ultramate. But if you don't mind bringing out your rotary and also can afford the price tag, I would say the Bigfoot.

Anyway, best way is to try yourself la....and see what suit you best. Go visit Osren, I think they got all three machine for you to try sweat.gif .....
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Oh, OSREN has Rupes too?
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post Aug 18 2014, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 18 2014, 05:21 PM)
They don't sell them but they got one for their own use & testing.
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Where do you recommend to buy Rupes anyway?

I am thinking for the 15ES Deluxe Kit when I have the budget.

Or do you guys just buy the machine?
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post Aug 18 2014, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(roxx @ Aug 18 2014, 10:32 PM)
Last week went there they sell 6 Osren bottles for RM60. If buy 1 bottle alone cost RM15

Maybe I salah dengar..  shakehead.gif
Previously use hand with UC - problem

Now use with rotary.. Create swirls but finish with black pad - gooding
Sifu want to buy Rupes pulak.. Told you'll already..

Rupes can group buy? Mana tau can get discount..  thumbup.gif
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Aiyoo... Not now la, if buy Rupes makan rumput. I am not heavy commercial/business one, as much as those people (that don't appreciate or understand detailing) unwilling to pay for decent job, or ask for impossible warranty/guarantee, I don't really wanted to take those jobs.

But it is good that I can get a good machine to maintain my rides.

Group discount ah? Need to ask KrisMas arrange, they already bought long ago.

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post Aug 19 2014, 04:52 AM

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Man, wanna buy Microfiber Madness Mitt and Dry Me Crazy too... But but but... Shipping sad.gif
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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Aug 19 2014, 10:03 AM)
Thats once good info...But those line up will cost moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif
For some time now i havent got my rotary is been few years im using hand still good. Learn it when i got my first cheap car to test tet. But what i hate is when compound touch those plastic panels, it leave some stain. ><
winder how is the product perform... Looks very nice from google.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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You should google up review of Dry Me Crazy, it does what it should be. Look soft and plush but yet absorb and not lint.

QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Aug 19 2014, 12:04 PM)
Who is the authorized distributor now? Can I can the pad from them? Last I went to Kuchai Lama, the shop only have pads for LHR21, not 15. So I got it from UK instead.
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Oh, so autocolortech does not carry the machine and compounds?
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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Aug 19 2014, 05:12 PM)

Haha since it sounds so cool, does any one sell locally? Does it work like Meguair's Water Magnet? or is it better?
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Far better bro... Ok I know most of you only liked Meg's, but it is really nothing to shout about the Water Magnet, OSREN sells about the same Waffle Weave for much lesser. Yes what from Meg's the 105 and 205 is good no doubt, but other than that you can feel free to explore different brands.

And then you have Cobra, you have Mothers... All performed far better in drying towel series.

And then now you have this Microfiber Madness Dry Me Crazy, a plush mf that acts like a waffle weave drying towel, so that it is far safer to pat down and drag across.

And the bad news, no one sells locally lol.

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