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Quazacolt
post Feb 20 2014, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Kr0ll3R @ Feb 20 2014, 04:19 PM)
Erm, good idea. But my small town here not sure have or not. Will still look around. Thx!

Just went back from the authorized dealer bodypaint workshop, they do provide touch up but
"Sorry Sir, we don't have your car color code, even the system doesn't have the list yet."
Drive out sadly.
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there should be a color code on your car chassis? should be able to go direct to the manufacturer/paint supplier too.
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post Feb 20 2014, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Kr0ll3R @ Feb 20 2014, 04:19 PM)
Just went back from the authorized dealer bodypaint workshop, they do provide touch up but
"Sorry Sir, we don't have your car color code, even the system doesn't have the list yet."
Drive out sadly.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 20 2014, 04:44 PM)
there should be a color code on your car chassis? should be able to go direct to the manufacturer/paint supplier too.
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Kr0ll3R Did you mention anything about the age of your car? (sorry...malas to scroll back...)
Quazacolt I still prefer going to a paint supplier and ask them to mix a MATCHING colour.
To relate to my question to Kr0ll3R, paint pigment would 'change colour' over time. A colour code would be useful for the initial colour identification, then the paint supplier should MATCH it with the actual colour of your car by further mixing.
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post Feb 20 2014, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 20 2014, 04:44 PM)
there should be a color code on your car chassis? should be able to go direct to the manufacturer/paint supplier too.
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Ops, ps. What I meant is they don't have the paint for my color code.
It's 0204 - soft lilac


QUOTE(KrisMas @ Feb 20 2014, 04:56 PM)
Kr0ll3R Did you mention anything about the age of your car? (sorry...malas to scroll back...)
Quazacolt I still prefer going to a paint supplier and ask them to mix a MATCHING colour.
To relate to my question to Kr0ll3R, paint pigment would 'change colour' over time. A colour code would be useful for the initial colour identification, then the paint supplier should MATCH it with the actual colour of your car by further mixing.
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2 more days turns 1 month old.

This post has been edited by Kr0ll3R: Feb 20 2014, 05:18 PM
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post Feb 20 2014, 05:21 PM

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hye guys,
anyone can share any recommended place for polish & wax around KL?
excellent service that use Meguiars (or anything good) brows.gif

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post Feb 20 2014, 09:18 PM

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In grocery store like Aeon (Jusco), Tesco, Giant in Malaysia there are two brands of product that is specially made for automotive paint touch up purpose.
One is Ezytouchup as u mentioned, another is AutoSpa.

Both are almost identical product but different in purchasing option where Ezytouchup in store only available in one box which contains 1 bottle of clear coat, base coat and wax&grease remover (something like a solvent).

Where as AutoSpa is available in single bottle, no box kit available. So you can separately buy the base coat, clear coat, and the solvent.

Both also made according to OEM paint code. Almost all local car series in modern time are covered in their line of products.

I have tried both. And I can assure you, all those video and pic are far from true. If you do it the way they show you in the video (using artist brush, painting on the car panel as in drawing on paper, then add on clear coat again), I guarantee you, you will never achieve good result. Unless you have successfully tried before, in which case I would highly eager to request you to share your secret to me.

Typical result of people who just use normal artist brush to do:
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Let's share some experience here. My experience.

AutoSpa


http://www.autospa2u.com/
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AutoSpa is easily becomes viscous once the bottle is opened and stored. Its base coat and clear coat is very "thick" after 1st use as in glue kind of liquid viscosity. This has advantage and disadvantage. 1st time use is just as fluid as Ezytouchup.

Advantage:
- When you repairing vertical panel, the high viscosity gives you more chance of successfully put the paint stay on the repair area, instead of flowing straight down by gravity pull.

- Once thoroughly shaken, the liquid can maintain in use-able mixture for longer time, because it takes more time for the pigment to settle down at the bottom of the bottle again.

Disadvantage:
- I realize the color coat dried up quite easily when stored in bottle. It could due to my frequent use of it and hence the gas of solvent just vaporize into air and making the remaining base coat liquid starting to get more and more viscous until unusable.

- The clear coat is a complete disaster. Unless you have a polisher machine, otherwise, do not expect the application of clear coat will give you a silky smooth surface. You MUST polish out the surface if you decided to use its clear coat. It gives out a lot of spider net, or glue looking, or pizza cheese looking kind of thing when you dip your applicator into it (brush, stick, whatever).



Eztouchup
Eztouchup is in contrast to AutoSpa, very liquify. It is almost like water, for both base coat and clear coat.

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Advantage:
- Easily shaken well because of low viscosity.
- Very thin layer of application is possible with this level of viscosity.

Disadvantage:
- It hardly can hold on vertical panel, it just flow right down due to gravity pull.


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Eztouchup viscosity is more like real spray paint viscosity. People who have been touching up paint with real spray paint product will be more familiar working with Eztouchup. AutoSpa will make this group of people feel like using glue.

My personal preference in between these two is AutoSpa, because of cost effective and convenience of application on vertical panel. The solvent will consumed very fast, with AutoSpa you can easily buy just the solvent (I bought multiple to keep for back up). Whereas Eztouchup, unless you buy online, otherwise if you buy through grocery store, you got to get a box kit every time, which is very costly.


One disadvantage to both of these products is, their color match only suitable for new car paint, or paint in excellent condition. Because it is made according to OEM paint code, when fresh, will match very nice. When your car already has some age, do expect a difference in tone.

In term of touch up, metallic silver is the hardest to achieve good result. Pure non-metallic black should be the easiest, though I cannot be sure, but common sense tell me this should be the case.

Pearl paint is even harder, or should I say near to impossible? tongue.gif Dunno never read anything about pearl paint touch up job before, maybe because all pearl paint car owners are rich guy so whenever got scratch just re-spray brows.gif

Nowadays we have matte paint and peel-able paint. I have no idea how to touch up these. They say peel-able paint like PlastiDIP, just directly re-spray on that spot will do a perfect match. Never see a real repair job before cannot verify the claim. But if it is true, it is really amazing.

This post has been edited by scoutfai: Feb 24 2014, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(Kr0ll3R @ Feb 20 2014, 05:14 PM)
Ops, ps. What I meant is they don't have the paint for my color code.
It's 0204 - soft lilac
2 more days turns 1 month old.
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You should touch up the area, especially on the metal panel, to prevent from metal rusting. Even though it does not look good, it does serve its purpose, which is rust prevention.
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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Feb 20 2014, 09:25 PM)
You should touch up the area, especially on the metal panel, to prevent from metal rusting. Even though it does not look good, it does serve its purpose, which is rust prevention.
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ya, that guy said left Primer layer only, won't rust yet but with no protection.
Will find the paint and fix it a.s.a.p.

While digging on the web, found this


laugh.gif dunno real or not, but if it's true, useful on those light scratches at the door handles.
RM20 include postage. biggrin.gif

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post Feb 21 2014, 07:47 AM

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Look too good to be true for me. From video alone we are unable to judge whether those are really scratches or just white color paint. If it is the later than any marker pen will sufficiently to wipe it out.
Whether it is a snake oil or true genius product I have no idea but hey, just RM20 I think worth to give it a try.
I think I saw such thing before in Ace Hardware. Not sure is same brand or not.

Try it on an inconspicuous area first like under skirt, under bumper, under wheel well.
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post Feb 21 2014, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Feb 21 2014, 07:47 AM)
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Look too good to be true for me. From video alone we are unable to judge whether those are really scratches or just white color paint. If it is the later than any marker pen will sufficiently to wipe it out.
Whether it is a snake oil or true genius product I have no idea but hey, just RM20 I think worth to give it a try.
I think I saw such thing before in Ace Hardware. Not sure is same brand or not.

Try it on an inconspicuous area first like under skirt, under bumper, under wheel well.
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post Feb 21 2014, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Feb 21 2014, 07:47 AM)
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Look too good to be true for me. From video alone we are unable to judge whether those are really scratches or just white color paint. If it is the later than any marker pen will sufficiently to wipe it out.
Whether it is a snake oil or true genius product I have no idea but hey, just RM20 I think worth to give it a try.
I think I saw such thing before in Ace Hardware. Not sure is same brand or not.

Try it on an inconspicuous area first like under skirt, under bumper, under wheel well.
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Bro, you've just fell for them their marketing scam....... tongue.gif
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post Feb 21 2014, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Feb 20 2014, 09:18 PM)
In term of touch up, metallic silver is the hardest to achieve good result. Pure non-metallic black should be the easiest, though I cannot be sure, but common sense tell me this should be the case.
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my iswara (who is my daily ride and happens to have the most chips) happens to be metallic silver.

FML laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Feb 21 2014, 09:01 AM)
Bro, you've just fell for them their marketing scam....... tongue.gif
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Yes that is what I am thinking too biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 21 2014, 11:24 AM)
my iswara (who is my daily ride and happens to have the most chips) happens to be metallic silver.

FML laugh.gif
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Any success in doing the touch up paint job? any secret techniques or tips to share?
I also driving metallic silver myvi. rclxms.gif
So i do feel the pain.
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post Feb 21 2014, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Feb 21 2014, 01:10 PM)
Any success in doing the touch up paint job? any secret techniques or tips to share?
I also driving metallic silver myvi.  rclxms.gif
So i do feel the pain.
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end up lazy.
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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Feb 21 2014, 01:10 PM)
Any success in doing the touch up paint job? any secret techniques or tips to share?
I also driving metallic silver myvi.  rclxms.gif
So i do feel the pain.
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What is the paint ? Light Metallic like Gold and Silver is the easier to maintain vs Dark Metallic and Solid colour
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QUOTE(g88 @ Feb 21 2014, 02:34 PM)
What is the paint ? Light Metallic like Gold and Silver is the easier to maintain vs Dark Metallic and Solid colour
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The pain in putting a successful, beautiful touch up paint.
These are two opposite property of the light color and dark color car.
Dark color car, easy to show up swirl, scratch, dirt.
Light color car hide swirl, scratch and dirt very well.

But when come to put on some touch up paint, light color car is very difficult to have a perfect or imperceptible repair. But dark color car can hide this imperfection easily.
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Anybody here goes to Carnauba Autospa in Glenmarie? Heard they provide very good car care and detailing services. Pricey?
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post Feb 22 2014, 01:09 AM

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I just washed my car just now and it's the first car wash since the application of the BSD last week and I had fun watching the water slides off my car XD

The thing is this, how long an interval you guys apply the BSD?

OH! I also used the rim wash however no red residue appeared like how it was demonstrated. Am I doing anything wrong?

I just sprayed evenly on dry rims.
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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 21 2014, 03:48 PM)
Anybody here goes to Carnauba Autospa in Glenmarie? Heard they provide very good car care and detailing services. Pricey?
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wow
heard like this fews year open so much detailing shop~

last time few years ago i only heard G-Zox nia~
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QUOTE(jns6888 @ Feb 22 2014, 01:40 AM)
wow
heard like this fews year open so much detailing shop~

last time few years ago i only heard G-Zox nia~
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Lol really. I read carnauba opened since 2005.

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