Can you do me a favour? Wet them with water then wipe some glass a few times, as if you're polishing the glass....see if any of them leave any lint or residue. Thanks.

ok I'll try

Hmm, Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer seems to leave a bit of "hazing" behind after application. Being my car is black, it's very obvious when other car shines their headlights on it.

Not sure how obvious it would be under sunlight, will see tomorrow.

It is the inherent characteristic of the product or i am doing something wrong.

Spray, spread and buff.

How wrong can that get hmmm

What type of 'hazing'? Is it whitish haze or streaks of dark/bright patches?

whitish haze which is only only visible if a car headlight is directly aimed at it. seems clear though under bright sunlight :hmmm:

Secondary gassing out...was still 'wet' when you're done. Probable cause are using too much product or cloth already saturated with product or damp. Could also be that the haze you're seeing is dirty ( BSD mixed with dirt) BSD that couldn't bond to the paint. Did you spray on car or on cloth? You'd need two cloth when using these kind of products - one for spreading and one for final buff...or change side to dry side when doing final buff. After final buff the surface should be dry to touch.

I sprayed on the surface of the car (like how i was taught to) and then two (2) cloths are used. One to evenly spread out the BSD and then the other just to mainly buff off lightly the BSD until no residue is visible.

:hmmm: could it be that the cloth i used to spread the BSD is so saturated with it and ended up causing all these "whitish haze"? the second cloth which i used to buffed off the BSD from my car surface is still pretty dry to the touch after the whole car is completed.

there is no way to remove these "whitish haze" now, unless polishing eh?

Last weekend I was helping my friend to polish his BMW using DA. Initially, I was using the least aggressive pad that I have(LC black pad) with Ultimate Polish. Doesn't work. Follow by white pad, fail too.

At the end, resort to orange pad with M101. Most of the swirl marks are removed, but minor scratches are still not able to be removed.

Hand almost broke lol...seems like BMW is having a very tough clearcoat...anyone experiences this before?

Have you tried going over the effected area again with BSD? Or normal shampoo wash? That should be able to remove or at least reduce the hazing. If not then I could be wrong and it's something else instead.

BMW's paint is quite hard. Had a few experience with them previously. It took a wool pad with M105 and quite a few passes to remove some minor swirl marks on a Z4. And I was unable to remove 3000 grit sanding marks with a polishing pad and M101 on an E35. Mind you I'm talking about using a rotary here....I can only imagine how it would be with a DA

i tried going over the area with the BSD again but the whitish haze persisted. I didn't shampoo washed it again because it was the driver's door panel area only (which is the obvious part) and i have already applied BSD on the rest of the car. Not really in the mood to wipe dry the entire car as it was already almost 1am @@

Yeah, BMW's paint is hard. I can verified that. This was confirmed by the SA from the BMW Service Centre but not sure if it's only on the new models though, my dad's is the F10.

Honda City has one of the softest paint in the market. Crazy stuff.

This post has been edited by shaniandras2787: Feb 17 2014, 10:04 AM

Curious about this also. Had never had this kinda problem. Keep us updated ya...want to know also.

- 22ple VM1 Rim and Metal Coat
- Applied over the recent Chinese New Year holidays
- No proper prep (just wanna test), just clean and degrease
- Approx 1 week/450km
- Applied to external face only
- Monitoring durability.



Yeah...yeah....another lousy video by yours truly.

Could it be possible that the "whitish haze" leftover by BSD mild marring instead? Normally, any haze left over by Sonax BSD would be gone if you go over it with a fresh layer of BSD, this applies to almost all spray waxes/sealants. Pictures would be good.

Hmm no wonder. Even rotary also takes quite some time to remove the swirl marks. BMW really has a tough clearcoat


How soft it is? Just wondering haha.

This post has been edited by windskill: Feb 17 2014, 01:16 PM

You can try it yourself go look for a 5G Honda City, black color if possible. the other colors are rather hard to see.

make contact with the car with your fingernails (the part where the surface area is the largest), just lightly move your finger as if you are drawing a long line. you'll immediately see the line.

you have no idea how easy it is -.-

eh tarak poke me on the 22ple rim coatings

actually not so interested in them for the time being already since im moving away from the iswara lol... the ad08r rims also not seeing a lot of action lately and just sitting in the kitchen as we speak

Don't want to poke the dragon's den...might get burnt....

Btw, stupidly easy to apply...now just a matter of how long does it last....

already burnt jor lo, what's getting burnt even further right?

eh anyone can share sonax malaysia address? in glenmarie one lol sadz last week went to the old shop =.= bilang pindah sudah =(

eh i went to glenmarie there wo, near mazda service center/show room there