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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.23, National Geography edition

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celciuz
post Jan 10 2014, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jan 10 2014, 10:33 AM)
blower blow away the dust? usually they dont stick after you wiped.
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Yeap, the dust you can see with your eyes no problem. Issue is with those you can't see, but only appears when you shine light to the glass =/

QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 10 2014, 11:02 AM)
Damn jelly your lens collection sifu haha  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
I've never really tried shining with torch, but I do noticed that a used (not 1st time) lenspen or microfibre cloths will sometimes add more dust/microparticles onto the lens as you clean laugh.gif

Have to use blower to blow them off...

But seriously sometimes I wonder how dust got into the inner lens even when a UV filter is used  sweat.gif
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Hehe, thanks! Took me years to get those...

Maybe you can try and let me know? Shine with torch or LED. Oh yes, my lenspen does leave micro dust, black ones! Maybe I need to buy new lenspen... might be contaminated, or too old since I rarely use it. And yes my microfiber also quite old d, but rarely used. But then again, i could clean the surface, looks clean to my eyes and the dust can be blown off are the bigger white ones. But those not visible to me can't =/.

I tried to use tape to remove the dust, but then ended up with the tape's residual even worse sweat.gif

Went online shopping, saw this 2..

Zeiss,
http://shashinki.com/shop/zeiss-microfiber...hs-p-13865.html so expensive!

Matin,
http://shashinki.com/shop/matin-micro-fibe...50mm-p-189.html
and
http://shashinki.com/shop/matin-micro-pock...lue-p-6430.html

Anyone used one of these before?
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post Jan 10 2014, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(GreenJellyBean @ Jan 10 2014, 11:20 AM)
I think photo appear nicer with black frame in this forum layout smile.gif

here we go, durian brothers.

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QUOTE(GreenJellyBean @ Jan 10 2014, 11:28 AM)
Please give me some comments so I can improve. I would love to hear how I can improve on composition and lighting.

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Great photos man thumbup.gif
I really love the 3 durians shot, look like those used for stamps~

I love the "Old Gold" photo as well, nicely taken although a bit too much greens~

Keep it up! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 10 2014, 11:58 AM)
Yeap, the dust you can see with your eyes no problem. Issue is with those you can't see, but only appears when you shine light to the glass =/
Hehe, thanks! Took me years to get those...

Maybe you can try and let me know? Shine with torch or LED. Oh yes, my lenspen does leave micro dust, black ones! Maybe I need to buy new lenspen... might be contaminated, or too old since I rarely use it. And yes my microfiber also quite old d, but rarely used. But then again, i could clean the surface, looks clean to my eyes and the dust can be blown off are the bigger white ones. But those not visible to me can't =/.

I tried to use tape to remove the dust, but then ended up with the tape's residual even worse  sweat.gif
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Just checked, yeah, mine has it too. I suppose those are very small scratches/dents or super stubborn stains on the lens.. Don't think they will affect IQ haha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 10 2014, 12:23 PM)
Just checked, yeah, mine has it too. I suppose those are very small scratches/dents or super stubborn stains on the lens.. Don't think they will affect IQ haha  laugh.gif
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I think lens after use for a period, naturally there will be dust inside... If me i'll just leave it but if on sensor is a different story laugh.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 10 2014, 11:58 AM)
Yeap, the dust you can see with your eyes no problem. Issue is with those you can't see, but only appears when you shine light to the glass =/
Hehe, thanks! Took me years to get those...

Maybe you can try and let me know? Shine with torch or LED. Oh yes, my lenspen does leave micro dust, black ones! Maybe I need to buy new lenspen... might be contaminated, or too old since I rarely use it. And yes my microfiber also quite old d, but rarely used. But then again, i could clean the surface, looks clean to my eyes and the dust can be blown off are the bigger white ones. But those not visible to me can't =/.

I tried to use tape to remove the dust, but then ended up with the tape's residual even worse  sweat.gif

Went online shopping, saw this 2..

Zeiss,
http://shashinki.com/shop/zeiss-microfiber...hs-p-13865.html so expensive!

Matin,
http://shashinki.com/shop/matin-micro-fibe...50mm-p-189.html
and
http://shashinki.com/shop/matin-micro-pock...lue-p-6430.html

Anyone used one of these before?
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i bought the matin one before...so far i only use to wipe my camera body, lens body n etc...never dare to use it to touch the lens glass...only use lenspen to clean the glass n blower to blow those black color thing left over from the lenspen
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post Jan 10 2014, 02:42 PM

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buy new lenspen la
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post Jan 10 2014, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jan 9 2014, 08:06 PM)
Bought back D700 last week at hong kong for cheap price.
I have it back in 2011 for aeroplane shooting but sold it after i went to study.
Now rejoining again kakaka.

Has anybody tried 70-200 F4 VR ? The price is about the same as 2nd hand 70-200 F2.8 VR1.

Any opinions?
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The 70-200mm f/4 VR is sharp, light and has better VR. The 70-200mm f/2.8 VR 1 vignettes wide open on full frame sensors. But then again, for what you're shooting, you're seldom shooting at f/2.8. So no worries there.

f/2.8 allows you to stack a 1.4x TC or 1.7x TC or even 2.0x TC if you dare for the added reach. The f/4 lens perhaps only allow 1.4x TC before it becomes too dark.

Anyway, if a slight increase in budget is allowed, the newly revised AF-S 80-400mm f/4.5-5.6 ED VR is nice. Great optics and flexibility.

On a side note, you should have gotten a lens instead of getting a Nikon body. Nikon lenses have international warranty.


QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 10 2014, 09:39 AM)
Side question, was cleaning my lens normally until butt itchy I went to shine it with LED torch... many micro dust -.- not able to clean them off T_T. Wipe this area clean, other area have. But then without the light I won't see them.

Question is how do you guys clean your lens? I used lenspen, it leaves black dust charcoal particles, use Zeiss swabs, also have dust left over ._.
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You're speaking about the external glass surface and not the lens internals? Because lens internals surely got these microdust when you shine your torch.

I believe the "problem" you're having is your lenspen and microfiber cloth not clean. That's the issue with using them. If you want them to be perfect, you need to wash your microfiber cloth or buy a new lenspen when it gets dirty. I get around this by using ordinary lens fluid cleaner and with a soft good quality normal tissue paper. With tissue paper, it's always new and you don't get this microdust issue when you clean your lenses. That's what I do lah.

Anyway, the microdust is a very small matter as it exist everywhere and does not affect anything.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 10 2014, 04:17 PM)
The 70-200mm f/4 VR is sharp, light and has better VR. The 70-200mm f/2.8 VR 1 vignettes wide open on full frame sensors. But then again, for what you're shooting, you're seldom shooting at f/2.8. So no worries there.

f/2.8 allows you to stack a 1.4x TC or 1.7x TC or even 2.0x TC if you dare for the added reach. The f/4 lens perhaps only allow 1.4x TC before it becomes too dark.

Anyway, if a slight increase in budget is allowed, the newly revised AF-S 80-400mm f/4.5-5.6 ED VR is nice. Great optics and flexibility.

On a side note, you should have gotten a lens instead of getting a Nikon body. Nikon lenses have international warranty.
You're speaking about the external glass surface and not the lens internals? Because lens internals surely got these microdust when you shine your torch.

I believe the "problem" you're having is your lenspen and microfiber cloth not clean. That's the issue with using them. If you want them to be perfect, you need to wash your microfiber cloth or buy a new lenspen when it gets dirty. I get around this by using ordinary lens fluid cleaner and with a soft good quality normal tissue paper. With tissue paper, it's always new and you don't get this microdust issue when you clean your lenses. That's what I do lah.

Anyway, the microdust is a very small matter as it exist everywhere and does not affect anything.
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That's why I bought those pre moistened Zeiss cleaner, but even those also gives tiny dusts under the torch shakehead.gif Oh well, I'll just live with it.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 10 2014, 11:58 AM)
Yeap, the dust you can see with your eyes no problem. Issue is with those you can't see, but only appears when you shine light to the glass =/
Hehe, thanks! Took me years to get those...

Maybe you can try and let me know? Shine with torch or LED. Oh yes, my lenspen does leave micro dust, black ones! Maybe I need to buy new lenspen... might be contaminated, or too old since I rarely use it. And yes my microfiber also quite old d, but rarely used. But then again, i could clean the surface, looks clean to my eyes and the dust can be blown off are the bigger white ones. But those not visible to me can't =/.

I tried to use tape to remove the dust, but then ended up with the tape's residual even worse  sweat.gif

Went online shopping, saw this 2..

Zeiss,
http://shashinki.com/shop/zeiss-microfiber...hs-p-13865.html so expensive!

Matin,
http://shashinki.com/shop/matin-micro-fibe...50mm-p-189.html
and
http://shashinki.com/shop/matin-micro-pock...lue-p-6430.html

Anyone used one of these before?
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I use lens tissue/paper
Something like this http://www.scientificsonline.com/optical-lens-paper.html
Doesn't leave any lint/microdust and since it is disposable it doesn't collect dust.

I first wrap the lens tissue/paper on a cotton bud as using fingers directly will introduce oil/sweat.
Wipe in a circular manner. From middle to the edges > Dispose. (Don't reuse the lens tissue/paper as it will introduce dust to the middle again)
If there are any smudges, use 100% alcohol (must be 100% to avoid any water residue).
Rinse and repeat.

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hi sifus,

i am very new to photography and i am about to purchase my 1st dslr.

with a budget of 10k what are the best options for me now? what body and what lens/accessories to buy first?

sry if my question is noob..
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QUOTE(XBONE4LIFE @ Jan 11 2014, 08:05 PM)
hi sifus,

i am very new to photography and i am about to purchase my 1st dslr.

with a budget of 10k what are the best options for me now? what body and what lens/accessories to buy first?

sry if my question is noob..
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me no sifu, but 10k is quite a big budget eh for someone new.

i'd suggest getting some mid-range slrs with not bad good controls like d7100 or 70d with a kit lens, or if you wanna save a bit, 2nd hand d7000 or 60d not bad too, then further increase your lens collection when you feel that the kit lens is limiting you

better than throwing going all in, and find out latr that photography is not for you, then would be a waste

happy shopping smile.gif
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QUOTE(XBONE4LIFE @ Jan 11 2014, 08:05 PM)
hi sifus,

i am very new to photography and i am about to purchase my 1st dslr.

with a budget of 10k what are the best options for me now? what body and what lens/accessories to buy first?

sry if my question is noob..
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Wow, good budget u have there sweat.gif Get a used D600 & a 24-70mm... Full frame camera and a wide aperture zoom thumbup.gif Around 9k+ If u shoot sports more, than get 70-200 tongue.gif

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QUOTE(QiAnG @ Jan 11 2014, 08:14 PM)
me no sifu, but 10k is quite a big budget eh for someone new.

i'd suggest getting some mid-range slrs with not bad good controls like d7100 or 70d with a kit lens, or if you wanna save a bit, 2nd hand d7000 or 60d not bad too, then further increase your lens collection when you feel that the kit lens is limiting you

better than throwing going all in, and find out latr that photography is not for you, then would be a waste

happy shopping  smile.gif
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Bro, i've seen people who just got started in photography & direct go to D600/6D icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(XBONE4LIFE @ Jan 11 2014, 08:05 PM)
hi sifus,

i am very new to photography and i am about to purchase my 1st dslr.

with a budget of 10k what are the best options for me now? what body and what lens/accessories to buy first?

sry if my question is noob..
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d800 (8300)
d610 (4900)
24-70 f2.8 (5600)
24-120 f4 (3600)
d610 + 24-70 = rm10400

5D Mark III KIT 24-105 f4 L (11000)
canon 6d 24-105 f4 L (7400)
canon 6d (4900) + 24-70 f2.8 (6300) = 11200


mix n match. tongue.gif

lol i dunno hw to give advice. bt i can give u the price i googled.
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QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Jan 11 2014, 08:18 PM)
Bro, i've seen people who just got started in photography & direct go to D600/6D icon_rolleyes.gif
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i dun think that's a good move since we dont know how long we'll like photography. if we happen to hangat hangat tahi ayam then wasted some money.. it's better to start from cheap gear, then if u improve, u'll noe where u need to upgrade, body, lens or buy a flash. need tele or wide.. many ppl buy gear then store at home collect dust. cz no interest d.
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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Jan 11 2014, 08:23 PM)
i dun think that's a good move since we dont know how long we'll like photography. if we happen to hangat hangat tahi ayam then wasted some money.. it's better to start from cheap gear, then if u improve, u'll noe where u need to upgrade, body, lens or buy a flash. need tele or wide.. many ppl buy gear then store at home collect dust. cz no interest d.
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That's why i opted to have an entry level camera to start photography... I was shocked to see the guy i mentioned direct buy D600/6D shocking.gif

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5dm3 or d800 af is better? i mean in terms of accuracy n consistency..
where can i get my hands on canon's ff camera to try? if nikon is bts.. canon leh?
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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Jan 11 2014, 08:41 PM)
5dm3 or d800 af is better? i mean in terms of accuracy n consistency..
where can i get my hands on canon's ff camera to try? if nikon is bts.. canon leh?
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i think the 5D m3 should be better? i've seen quite many people shoot serious sports with it, while with the d800 i don't really see them everywhere.
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QUOTE(XBONE4LIFE @ Jan 11 2014, 08:05 PM)
hi sifus,

i am very new to photography and i am about to purchase my 1st dslr.

with a budget of 10k what are the best options for me now? what body and what lens/accessories to buy first?

sry if my question is noob..
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Fuiiiiiiyoh 10k, drool.gif

QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jan 11 2014, 08:49 PM)
i think the 5D m3 should be better? i've seen quite many people shoot serious sports with it, while with the d800 i don't really see them everywhere.
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The D800's AF is plenty capable lah, just the frame rate problem only at 4fps. laugh.gif
Even my D700 also can sapu it in terms of fps whistling.gif (syok sendiri) laugh.gif laugh.gif

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