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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.23, National Geography edition

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post Nov 28 2013, 03:09 PM

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haha didn't thought i can spam that much in nikon thread tongue.gif
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post Nov 28 2013, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(QiAnG @ Nov 28 2013, 09:47 PM)
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your shots are quite underexposed. I tried placing the watch beside windows and kinda liked the outcome (i am very newbie in watch shooting tongue.gif)

some shot by me

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IMG_1038 by tuna97, on Flickr

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IMG_9499 by tuna97, on Flickr
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post Nov 28 2013, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Nov 28 2013, 10:08 PM)
I) stick for nikon if u got extra money
II) get 2.8 for extra bokeh provided u gt a big budget~

well, seems meaningless la my suggestion. according to dxomark, if u want sharpest, is 70200 2.8, then 70200 4, then Tamron AF 70-200mm f/2.8 SP Di LD [IF] macro. n the tammy 70200 macro is so darn cheap n considerably good if compared to them..i believe i must have left out something.bt still u need to ask opinion from others that had hands on before..
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totally agree, that lens is so crazy sharp even wide open.

at 70mm f2.8, it is as sharp as those prime lenses out there. at 200mm, still sharp, but can't compare with prime telephoto lens.

not to mention the not bad macro capability you can get.

at around 2.5k, it's the only brand new 70-200 f2.8 you can get.

careful though, the AF isn't that good, tends to front/back focus a little bit at longer focal length.

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post Nov 28 2013, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(tongweng @ Nov 28 2013, 10:29 PM)
2.5k you mean is not nikon brand?

of course cant compare to prime telephoto lens...but i need to learn more about photography first before i move on to next stage.

I never had any problem with AF because most of the time i off my AF XD
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yeap, you can even find some used ones in mint condition around 2k at GS.

if you use MF only, that lens is really darn good in IQ, i own one personally, can only complain about the focusing, other than that the lens is quite perfect.
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post Nov 28 2013, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Nov 28 2013, 10:33 PM)
it doesnt have VR or VC(what tamron calls it) ..
the 70200 f4 nikon is darn darn sharp anyways.. bt it's f4 lar.
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that lens isn't that heavy compared to any f2.8 70-200, but a little heavier than f4 70-200. quite easy to handhold too, really large grip on the focus ring for you to hold.
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post Nov 28 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Nov 28 2013, 10:53 PM)
yeah.. 2.8 sure can be f4 la.. bt hor the price is rm3k difference! with that u could get a sigma 35mm 1.4, or a used 16-35 f4 nikkor ..
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actually no need to think that nikon's 70-200 is the only choice.

since he says he likes MF, the SWM don't matter that much that him already.

and compare the nikon 70-200 vrii/i with tamron 70-200 macro, will the 4-5k of price difference justified by better focusing motor and VR? build quality aside, most people don't threat their lens like a weapon.
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post Nov 28 2013, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(tongweng @ Nov 28 2013, 10:57 PM)
One more thing i am concern...my uncle said nikon's lens is tougher ...is that true?
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it is tougher for sure.

but if you treat your lens nicely, don't abuse them, don't use in rain, don't drop or bang the lens, any lens will last many years easily.
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post Nov 29 2013, 03:54 PM

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here's a quick pixel peeping for the tamron 70-200 f2.8 macro lens.

70 mm sample 100% crop.
f2.8
f4
f8

200mm sample 100% crop.
f2.8
f4
f8

all i can say is at 70mm f2.8, that lens is sharp already, at f4 it's crazy sharp.

at 200mm f2.8, it's not that sharp, with a little bit of softness, still very good imo, same thing happens at f4, it's crazy sharp.

all shots are converted from raw without any sharpening applied.

also uploaded all of them in full size at my flickr.


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post Dec 3 2013, 10:08 PM

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arrr a canon guy asking in nikon thread paiseh tongue.gif

a few of you might know that i love shooting macro, so recently after i saw a few of you post your diffuser for macro set up i decided to get one also.

i bought this.

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now facepalm pulak, when i reverse my lens, the focusing distance drops until few cm from the bugs, the the octobox went so far until a lot further than my subject, causing the light unable to hit the subject correctly.

also, i can't get softer light from that octobox, already opted for the largest in size but still the light appears quite harsh. sweat.gif
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post Dec 3 2013, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Dec 3 2013, 11:00 PM)
Extension tubes are quite rare, since there's not really a lot of demand I suppose sad.gif
Ahhh, no problems man, we all have the passion for photography what  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
I sort of have the same problem as you haha, as in the diffuser being too long than the lens, especially when I don't use the ET laugh.gif
Perhaps can consider flash brackets? Or a smaller diffuser hmm.gif
I'm not familiar with Canon flashguns, but you should be able to switch the light to disperse right? Can also put down the flashgun's diffuser (if applicable) for extra diffusion  hmm.gif
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hmm how much would a flash bracket costs? if it's expensive, i think i will invest in light stand those things instead. wouldn't a smaller diffuser create harsher light?

it's yongnuo flash haha, canon's flash is too expensive for me. yeap, i tried putting down those, but didn't affect really much. hmm.gif
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post Dec 3 2013, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Dec 3 2013, 11:32 PM)
Since when did you get a trumpet for your flash?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

On a more serious note, try attaching the diffuser cap first before fitting the softbox.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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it looks really crazy haha, didn't thought it would that big when i bought it. i don't have the cap bundled with my flash sweat.gif and it isn't that cheap if buy separately right?
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post Dec 3 2013, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Dec 3 2013, 11:40 PM)
Can get for 10 bucks at digicolor nia. Reason your lighting is harsh because all the power is still aiming towards the center of the softbox, you need secondary diffusion at the light source first to better distribute the spread of light.

My softbox pula too short  sweat.gif Since my 90mm on it's own quite long d, after adding teleconverter or ET have to ramp up ISO to maintain short flash duration. doh.gif

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i also bought that tiny octobox from digicolor, just today haha. need to buy the cap next time when i visit there. thanks a lot for the tips, i don't know diffusing the light is so complicated sweat.gif

now i can only shoot with the octobox using 70-200, that's they only lens that the octobox won't cover.
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post Dec 3 2013, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Dec 3 2013, 11:50 PM)
Quite simple only la once you start to understand the concept.  cool2.gif

For macro, the more layers of diffusion, the softer the light, but the more power required from the flash la.
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yeah, need to start experimenting to lighting to improve my skills.

with the octobox, i already lost like 1 stop of power compared to bare flash, wouldn't mind charging the batteries more oftenly as long as i get the picture i want.
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post Dec 4 2013, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Dec 4 2013, 10:37 AM)
Bracket costs around RM100-200 I think, and most are dual flash brackets. Single ones are quite rare I think hmm.gif
Light stands as in those for strobist work?
I wouldn't really recommend them, you will want to travel as light as possible for macro work. The more your gears, the more easy you tire, and also easier susceptibility to handshakes @@
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The softbox works really well for me, though it sure gets in the way sometimes laugh.gif
Still trying to find a smaller diffuser that provides the same amount of light diffusing haha, will update when I finally find/design one  laugh.gif
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no la, i don't only shoot macro, that's why i wanted to get a better setup for learning about lighting if the bracket isn't cheap. need to save money again sweat.gif
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post Dec 12 2013, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Dec 12 2013, 10:26 AM)
from a not-active forumer selling his lens.... 2470 hehe

https://www.facebook.com/irvinfr87/posts/763005330381551

by the way yesterday finally took back my repaired lens..damaged rm190 for cleaning 2470 fungus inside ...but i wait damn long because of jam lol... sit in bus stop like 1 hour 45 minutes....

demmm selangor holiday...make traffic more jammed than usual  sweat.gif

haven't test the lens yet.. only check fungus removed.
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I just send in my 18-135 to YL for cleaning fungus, got quoted rm150 including fixing a little screw that's flying inside the lens. (can be hear when shaking the lens tongue.gif )
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post Dec 12 2013, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Dec 12 2013, 04:16 PM)
i just lazy go to YL >_<
so i just contact yannick, i duno i doubt they are actually same or what...

i bought body and lens from yannick twice and i notice plastic bag is YL camera lol... so i think his source is YL  hmm.gif
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went to puduplaza for the first time, spend like 20 minutes only managed to find the shop sweat.gif customer service not bad though
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post Dec 13 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Dec 13 2013, 08:23 AM)
Regarding the dust in my D3200 viewfinder, i made a huge mistake by dismantle the focusing screen and super imposed screen. I'm not sure about other models design, but D3200 design is separated focusing screen and super imposed screen (with focus grid).

The dust is inside the inner side of super imposed screen, which is the side facing prism. I wipe with micro fiber cloth and now the screen is full with many fine scratch. The focusing screen too. The expensive lesson for me. cry.gif

Anyway, anyone here know how much for these 2 parts? I know the focusing screen is around 100+, just dun know how much for the super imposed screen.

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i nearly did the same thing, luckily decided not to take the risk at the end. those dusts are super annoying since they are deep inside the viewfinder, not just on the mirror alone. I used the cloth to wipe the reflex mirror last time, end up leaving some smudge on it sweat.gif when i send my camera for lens cleaning few days ago, the camera shop told me not worth removing the dusts since it will require a lot of work including dismantling the whole viewfinder part and would costs rm200-300.
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post Dec 13 2013, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Dec 13 2013, 02:05 PM)
Yes, bro, as bold part, super annoying, 2 fiber dusts stick inside the super imposed screen and just on top of the 2 focus points, everytime focus sure will see it. I can wait for next day to buy the blower, but due to my own decision, i dismantle myself and wipe using the micro fiber cloth that come with the camera. I'm too naive to expect those cloth provided should be scratch proof and dustless compare to normal fiber cloth. sad.gif That was last Friday night, 2 days before my wedding.

Yesterday night i just did a final clean up using contact lens cleanser and flush with filtered water, after that blow off the water using rocket blower without wiping. But is too late, i use my handphone camera flash as the light source, direct to the reflex mirror and i observe at the viewfinder, alot of fine scratch in vertical and horizontal direction. Although not really obvious after i put back the lens, but it become an 'imperfection' inside my heart, although it won't affect the photo quality, but i still feel it will. sad.gif

No pain no gain. sad.gif
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moral of the story, don't simply touch camera inner parts, they are so damn complicated and fragile.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 13 2013, 04:55 PM)
Always better to pay and have it done by the experts ;-)
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yeah, rather pay some money for the service than taking the risk to buy another whole new gear.

QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Dec 13 2013, 05:12 PM)
I dont even dare to clean the sensor laugh.gif
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i did a mistake too last time by using so called cleaning fluid for camera (it didn't write for what part) on my sensor, end up leaving a little smudgy spot on it. luckily canon SC didn't ask anything about it and clean it free for me. (the old days when sensor cleaning is free cry.gif )
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 13 2013, 06:03 PM)
Only thing I dare to clean is the lens outer element front and back  laugh.gif that also I worried accidentally scratching it ._.
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haha i don't even dare to wipe mine. kit lens and nifty fifty still can, i don't dare touch my 70-200's front element, imagine how much it needs to fix if that 77mm glass got scratched.

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