although uni like manchester and cardiff is not listed within the top 20 uni worldwide, but look at their ranking particularly at some subject e.g. pharmacy etc. uni like oxford, cambridge doesnt even have course like pharmacy, so if you are to take pharmacy course in cardiff/manchester, you are within the top 5 pharmacy school in uk. and although the tuition fees are expensive considering the exchange rate as well, but with some courses like pharmacy, a year of work already can pay back the past 4 years of study.

and lastly, you are very welcome, most welcome to proof your point, advise, why not UK etc, but if you are to disgrace a uni in UK with your stupid comparison, i'm sorry, you wont see your post visible here. and best of all, go and open a HKU thread or whatever. meanwhile i will keep this thread clean from your stupid comparison post without valid healthy arguments. and we have not hold back any info. so far i havent see regulars here whom study/ied in UK has discourage anyone asking abt studying in UK except you, who we have no idea how well you know abt UK. you reason and motivation for posting is highly suspect i would say instead.

btw when the next intake??february??

pay using bank draft
bout that, I'm not sure
the best is to give a call to vfs
you can look for their number at vfs-uk-my.com

ok, thank alot...
now the case is i need at least 100k as a prove for them so than i can get the visa but i have not enough cash. so plan to take from my parents epf. but the epf people say i need to get the visa first before can apply it. and i need to prove i have 100k only able to get the visa...

so what can i do?
i apply visa first with the efp statement?

the answer for the 2 question above is Yes and Yes

If I am welcome then why are you being so sensitive and hostile ?

What " disgrace and stupid arguments " are you talking about ?

If you are referring to the Times Uni ranking , In case you haven't noticed , I am not the Times , if you think they are stupid or disgraceful , kindly take it up with them .


Or maybe since you cannot censor them you are afraid to talk to them.

Everything is global now so a relative comparison btwn UK Unis and HKU is valid , give 1 good reason why it is not ?

Where have I discourage anyone asking abt studying in UK ? Please back up claim and don't resort to bully boy tactics just cause you don't like what you hear?

Referencing the Times and stating what are top 20 Unis and what are not is not
" discouraging " in the true sense . A balanced view cannot be " discouraging " .

If I had a personal problem against UK education , I would not have said this :

If you UCL or Imperial is out of your reach then try :

Durham , Bristol , York , Southampton ,ST Andrews , UEA , Bath maybe Sussex etc top 20 up and comers .

I have 13 years experience in the UK including attending UCL , and visited 20 cities in the UK . I do think I know the country and have a lot to contribute.

I suppose you will delete this , go ahead that will only prove my point .

I have a question about applying visas, the part where we have to prove we have enough to cover the UK costs.

I have:
1) Both parents' signed letter stating they are a shareholder in my dad's company stating their incomes per year and also says that each enjoys perks given by the company in excess of >RM100k per year.
2) Penyata pendapatan tahunan for the year 2007.
3) The company's registration papers and the company's bank account.

I know we're supposed to give a copy of the bank statements for each parent, but is the above enough?

It is very hard to define 'enough' when you are applying for a UK visa, I suggest provide everything you have in hand.

Regards,

http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/go...ject=MECHANICAL

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Added on August 20, 2008, 4:58 pmok, first, thank you. actually i cant afford to study in London, so i cancel my choice for king's or imperial. and then, i choose those university base on mechanical subject.... hope you understand. you can see the link below. besides, from the THES world university ranking, university of liverpool, cardiff, manchester, sheffield is top 100 in the world. hope you give more advice.

http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/go...ject=MECHANICAL

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Added on August 20, 2008, 5:43 pmok, so one more interest thing. i found the ranking is different from "timesonline" and THES. which one is better for reference? sometimes the university ranking in UK is not that high in timesonline but is high in THES world ranking.....lol.....another thing, i choose the university base on UK ranking or the subject ranking..???? getting more confusing now...

and....for mechanical subject in timesonline, i cant found university of warwick, oxford, durham.......is that mean they are not good enough or being drop out from the list? screw them, make things stupid!!

This post has been edited by kaisergan: Aug 20 2008, 05:47 PM

how much actually that we need to spend our own money there ? assuming we've never work part time and got loan @ sponsorship for studying there and we'll be living there about 4 years.. The living cost there still bothering me as my family can't afford me if the living cost is too high..

If you are sponsored i m sure you wouldnt need much. Well it depends how you spend. I thought normally you will get allowance around GBP200-300 per month? It is more than enough if you dont go spending your money like shopping and stuff. If you are a person that doesnt like nightlife and doesnt go for shopping, GBP200 per month should be more than enough to buy food and stuff that you will need.

I m not too sure with living cost. Does you get sponsored with that as well? If yes then what i mention above is really enough. Just to give you a rough estimation that you will need around GBP3000-4000 for accommodation per annual. The living cost over there is definitely cheaper than Malaysia if you dont compare the exchange rate.

wanna ask here
is intake at UK only on september??1 year 1 intake only??
how bout february??

I think universities in the UK only have one intake every year and that's around September/October time.

Remember to apply a HC2 or HC3 immediately when u reach UK. It helps a lot especially for thos who got problem for teeth and eye.
With HC3, i reveived root canal treatment and a crown with just £10+
get a FCUK glass with reaction and super slim lens just £150 (actual £300!!) in specsaver
with HC2 even cheaper!!

So this will help a lot.

This post has been edited by kelvinbongcn: Aug 21 2008, 05:05 AM

Well , let's say this anything I say is my opinion entirely and I am not trying to force anyone to follow me unlike some other people.

So , as far a THES vs The Times , I would follow the Times over THES

The times and sunday times have 100's years behind them and are the biggest most established newspapers in UK - that speaks for itself .

Also you must understand if $$$ and global comparison are important to you [ as i said it would be contrary to what others thought] , then why would you restrict yourself to UK U's ?

If you are looking at THES , By the same token HKU , NUS , Toronto , Michigan , Chicago etc are way above Liverpool etc . AND A LOT CHEAPER TOO.


Also facilities matter , and places like NUS and HKU are much more modern than liverpool, cardiff, manchester, sheffield . You want to work with the latest cgis and main frames don't you ?

Reason for this is that all UK U's are gov. owned and the UK gov sector is going broke , it has been for decades , your tutors shold have alerted you to this .

Anyone who has lived in UK for a while will know this as fact.


If you are only comparing UK vs UK U's then to me the Times ranking would carry more weight.

Found something interesting on the guardian website about University fees...

http://education.guardian.co.uk/students/i...2281001,00.html

This will tell you the fees that you need to pay for the university that you applied.

Juz submit my visa application. Hope they approved it. The only thing I dun hav is the evidence of accommodation. Dun hav place to live yet. JUz merempat at my fren's house.

omg
thts sux
means i need wait another year..damn it man.
haiz

OK, so let have some real discussion, let see... ermm, ok, i follow TIMES ranking. now, im going to choose an university for MECHANICAL ENGINEERING. from the times ranking, cardiff, queen's belfast, and liverpool actually top 10 in mechanical engineering. how you think bout this??? why i chose UK is because it is fast, 3 years to get BEng... or 4 years for MEng.. so?

There is nothing wrong with Liverpool, Cardiff etc, but I think what he was saying is other universities like NUS HKU Toronto etc offer comparable education at a cheaper price, which I agree with.

Explore your options. Don't focus solely on the UK. Really, an extra year in education means little in the bigger scheme of things, and if it saves you money, then it is an option worth considering. Good luck.