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 Studying in the UK, Tips, plz

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bonedragon
post Aug 21 2008, 10:36 PM

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Hey guys, thanks for answering my many questions that I've asked.

Now I need to know whether any of you have stayed for long term at the International Student House in London? I'm asking because there's no more place in UCL student residences...T_T so I'm rushing to apply now since I'll probably be in UK within a month and I don't want to sleep by the road...

Anyway, for those who have been there, what are the rental rates like? They didn't state that in the website but asked me to call instead, so I thought I'll ask here since it's free compared to making an international call. Lol. Edit: Ok i found their rates on the website..i didn't look hard enough, but I still want to know how it's like to live there compared to a student hostel by the university? Thanks.

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QUOTE(bonedragon @ Aug 21 2008, 10:36 PM)
Hey guys, thanks for answering my many questions that I've asked.

Now I need to know whether any of you have stayed for long term at the International Student House in London? I'm asking because there's no more place in UCL student residences...T_T so I'm rushing to apply now since I'll probably be in UK within a month and I don't want to sleep by the road...

Anyway, for those who have been there, what are the rental rates like? They didn't state that in the website but asked me to call instead, so I thought I'll ask here since it's free compared to making an international call. Lol. Edit: Ok i found their rates on the website..i didn't look hard enough, but I still want to know how it's like to live there compared to a student hostel by the university? Thanks.
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post Aug 21 2008, 10:43 PM

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hmm ok, thanks. But ISh is located soo soo near to UCL. I think i can walk there, if not ther's a station located right ouside it, i think about 2 stops away from UCL, so I think it's kinda convenient. Thanks for the website.
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post Aug 21 2008, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(WillHung @ Aug 21 2008, 03:43 PM)
There is nothing wrong with Liverpool, Cardiff etc, but I think what he was saying is other universities like NUS HKU Toronto etc offer comparable education at a cheaper price, which I agree with.

Explore your options. Don't focus solely on the UK. Really, an extra year in education means little in the bigger scheme of things, and if it saves you money, then it is an option worth considering. Good luck.
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IMO, USA is the better place for engineering. Top US universities are much harder to get into than top UK universities for engineering. That may tell you something.



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post Aug 21 2008, 10:53 PM

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if i apply now n can i make it for this sept intake??need to wait for answer from uni,apply for visa,etc
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post Aug 21 2008, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(hhkonghh @ Aug 21 2008, 10:49 PM)
IMO, USA is the better place for engineering. Top US universities are much harder to get into than top UK universities for engineering. That may tell you something.
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I believe UK is perfectly fine for an engineering education, unless you can get into MIT Stanford Berkeley GATech etc


QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 21 2008, 10:53 PM)
if i apply now n can i make it for this sept intake??need to wait for answer from uni,apply for visa,etc
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I believe the deadline for application has passed. Even if it hasn't, it would be a mad scramble to get to the uni in time, with all the visa hassle. I certainly would advise you wait for the autumn 2009 intake.

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post Aug 21 2008, 11:04 PM

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Some universities might still have places because I reckon it's UCAS clearing time now. And some universities start end-Sept or early-Oct. So you might have 1 month to get everything done. The British are very understanding people and if you have an genuine explanation, they are able to rush things for you at lightning speed. If that's what you really wanted, so yes, it's possible.


Added on August 21, 2008, 11:06 pm
QUOTE(WillHung @ Aug 21 2008, 10:57 PM)
I believe UK is perfectly fine for an engineering education, unless you can get into MIT Stanford Berkeley GATech etc
I believe the deadline for application has passed. Even if it hasn't, it would be a mad scramble to get to the uni in time, with all the visa hassle. I certainly would advise you wait for the autumn 2009 intake.
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I know for a fact someone easily got into Imperial but got rejected from several of the top US universities he applied for engineering.

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post Aug 21 2008, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(hhkonghh @ Aug 21 2008, 11:04 PM)
Some universities might still have places because I reckon it's UCAS clearing time now. And some universities start end-Sept or early-Oct. So you might have 1 month to get everything done. The British are very understanding people and if you have an genuine explanation, they are able to rush things for you at lightning speed. If that's what you really wanted, so yes, it's possible.


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I know for a fact someone easily got into Imperial but got rejected from several of the top US universities he applied for engineering.
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And you think that's new information for people here? American universities look for more well-rounded candidates whilst British ones merely look for the number of A's, which is much easier to achieve than an excellent all-around application profile. Who's to say those who go to Imperial are less able engineers compared to, say, Stanford?

I don't know what you're trying to prove. And I don't care enough to find out.
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post Aug 21 2008, 11:24 PM

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Yes, you are right. Top US universities you mentioned looks for higher caliber students than UK's. Hence more likely to producer better engineers.

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QUOTE(WillHung @ Aug 21 2008, 10:57 PM)
I believe UK is perfectly fine for an engineering education, unless you can get into MIT Stanford Berkeley GATech etc
I believe the deadline for application has passed. Even if it hasn't, it would be a mad scramble to get to the uni in time, with all the visa hassle. I certainly would advise you wait for the autumn 2009 intake.
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when is autumn intake?
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post Aug 22 2008, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Aug 21 2008, 01:52 PM)
OK, so let have some real discussion, let see... ermm, ok, i follow TIMES ranking. now, im going to choose an university for MECHANICAL ENGINEERING. from the times ranking, cardiff, queen's belfast, and liverpool actually top 10 in mechanical engineering. how you think bout this??? why i chose UK is because it is fast, 3 years to get BEng... or 4 years for MEng.. so?
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well 1st you prove it to me that this true , the link is dead .


Added on August 22, 2008, 12:48 pm
QUOTE(WillHung @ Aug 21 2008, 11:17 PM)
And you think that's new information for people here? American universities look for more well-rounded candidates whilst British ones merely look for the number of A's, which is much easier to achieve than  an excellent all-around application profile. Who's to say those who go to Imperial are less able engineers compared to, say, Stanford?

I don't know what you're trying to prove. And I don't care enough to find out.
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He's not trying anything other than giving some facts , and I don't he will be too bothered if you care enough to find out.

It's an opinion , just as you have yours ,leave it at that.

I would add of course it is possible for any half decent U to produce good engineers but which is more likely to produce top quality people ?

A place like Toronto with near state of the Art facilities , value for money AND in a thriving glamorous city.

Or

A state U under great $ pressure since it's own Gov is in financial crisis with increasingly out dated equipment , expensive and in a run down part of the country like say Cardiff [ I know I have been to Wales many time and Glamorous is the LAST word I wold use for it , it can't even beat Bristol or Southampton as a nice location never mind Toronto].

Location matters , wonder why ?


Added on August 22, 2008, 12:54 pm
QUOTE(WillHung @ Aug 21 2008, 03:43 PM)
There is nothing wrong with Liverpool, Cardiff etc, but I think what he was saying is other universities like NUS HKU Toronto etc offer comparable education at a cheaper price, which I agree with.


Depends what you mean .

Wron and roight as in absolutely - No

But relatively - YES .

If it was me , it is a no brainer NUS HKU Toronto over Liverpool, Cardiff etc any day of the week .

Cheaper , much more glamorous cities , better facilities and better professors.

these places are up and going to rise further whereas Liverpool, Cardiff etc are down and going to drop further.

Sorry that's just the way it is , if the situation was reverse I would say the same thing but it is not.

QUOTE(WillHung @ Aug 21 2008, 03:43 PM)

Explore your options. Don't focus solely on the UK. Really, an extra year in education means little in the bigger scheme of things, and if it saves you money, then it is an option worth considering. Good luck.
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Agreed , with Uk prices an extra year in HK/SG would come out to the same price maybe lower and you get much more prestige .

The Uk name alone does not command the same respect as it did 20-30 years ago.

Whereas HK and SG is up and coming .






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post Aug 22 2008, 03:06 PM

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Added on August 22, 2008, 3:13 pm
QUOTE(2HK @ Aug 22 2008, 12:14 PM)
well 1st you prove it to me  that this true , the link is dead .


Added on August 22, 2008, 12:48 pm
He's not trying anything other than giving some facts , and I don't he will be too bothered  if you care enough to find out.

It's an opinion , just as you have yours ,leave it at that.

I would add of course it is possible for any half decent U to produce good engineers but which is more likely to produce top quality people ?

A place like Toronto with near state of the Art facilities , value for money AND in a thriving glamorous city.

Or

A state U under great $ pressure since it's own Gov is in financial crisis with increasingly out dated equipment , expensive and in a run down part of the country like say Cardiff [ I know I have been to Wales many time and Glamorous is the LAST word I wold use for it , it can't even beat Bristol or Southampton as a nice location never mind Toronto].

Location matters , wonder why ?


Added on August 22, 2008, 12:54 pm

Depends what you mean .

Wron and roight as in absolutely - No

But relatively - YES .

If it was me , it is a no brainer  NUS HKU Toronto over Liverpool, Cardiff etc any day of the week .

Cheaper , much more glamorous cities , better facilities and better professors.

these places are up and going to rise further whereas  Liverpool, Cardiff etc are down and going to drop further.

Sorry that's just the way it is , if the situation was reverse I would say the same thing but it is not.
Agreed , with Uk prices an extra year in HK/SG would come out to the same price maybe lower and you get much more prestige .

The Uk name alone does not command the same respect as it did 20-30 years ago.

Whereas HK and SG is up and coming .

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It wasn't as much opinion-giving as it was trolling and flame-baiting. Imperial and other top UK unis are great producers of engineers in their own right, comparing the admission policies between the unis of the two countries is comparing apples to oranges.

Liverpool, Cardiff etc are good universities, but perhaps overpriced compared to options one might have say in HK or Sg.

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Hey guys, just wondeirng I will be turning 18 only this oct 6, but my term starts on the 22nd of september...so when I start, I'll still not be legally an adult yet. Wondering if I need to appoint a guardian or smtg? It's only about 2 weeks though..
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thanks a lot, willhung and 2hk. hmm....tough. how about AUSTRALIA?

actually i heard you always talk about NUS or HKU.... i don like them because their background.... you get me... ?


Added on August 22, 2008, 3:29 pmone more thing you guys din reply...

york and durham or warwick have very good reputation and high ranking, but how if they din stand in the ranking for mechanical engineering?

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post Aug 22 2008, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Aug 22 2008, 03:23 PM)
thanks a lot, willhung and 2hk. hmm....tough. how about AUSTRALIA?

actually i heard you always talk about NUS or HKU.... i don like them because their background.... you get me... ?


Added on August 22, 2008, 3:29 pmone more thing you guys din reply...

york and durham or warwick have very good reputation and high ranking, but how if they din stand in the ranking for mechanical engineering?
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Do not rely on the rankings TOO much. I know Warwick is very good for engineering. I don't know about York and Durham. They should be ok I think. Although I think York only does EE, not mech.
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Just a hunch and generalizing between US, UK and Australian. I reckon Australian is at the bottom for engineering.
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ya, ya.... dont really search the university base on ranking.... is now a big gap after all.... and let say one university is bad like sheffield hallam, they still got lot of student graduate with career ahead of them. i think the most imporatant is the places of your study, you love it then is great. study is just part of our life, enjoy it and think bout your future is more important. your future is control by your attitude, characteristic and more but not academic result and background!! thanks to this forum.
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Went to submit my visa application today smile.gif Hope it won't get rejected *crosses fingers*

How does the visa look like btw?
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QUOTE(sense_less143 @ Aug 22 2008, 07:04 PM)
Went to submit my visa application today smile.gif Hope it won't get rejected *crosses fingers*

How does the visa look like btw?
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