Source: http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...l-paper-format/

PETALING JAYA: SPM students, teachers and parents were in for a shock when the moral studies format was changed at the last-minute and without prior notice.

Many who sat for the paper this morning took to social networking site Facebook to express their unhappiness.

One male student said that the format was changed at the last minute because “the candidates are non-Malays”.

Asked to elaborate, he said the questions were markedly different unlike previous years. The least the Education Ministry could have done, he added, was to inform the students beforehand.

Another said that the format was changed without the knowledge of teachers and students.

“We didn’t know how to answer and what exactly was to be answered in the essay section. So, most of were left clueless,” she said.

Moral studies is a required subject for non-Muslim students while Muslim students are required to take the Islamic studies. Moral appreciation aside, the subject is considered as an easy one to pass and also to score an extra A.

Another student said that in the past two years, students were told that they only needed to memorise the 36 moral values and answer accordingly during the exam.

The 36 values are divided and categorised into seven major fields – self-development, family, nature, patriotism, human rights, democracy and peace and harmony.

Thus, the change in format without prior notice has baffled students and teachers.

“This time the questions were not clear and we were required to answer in a critical manner. I’m just surprised it was changed without proper notice,” she said.
Meanwhile Pandan MP Rafizi Ramli when met at Parliament said the problem was symptomatic of the fragile race relations in the country.

“People do not trust the system and the government. The majority have long felt that the subject (Moral studies) only serves to penalize them (non-Malays).

“There is a need to re-look at the education system because it only serves to further divide the society,” he said.

This post has been edited by leetan33: Nov 20 2013, 02:18 PM

Moral not objective only meh?

last time ayam answer according to homemade-eraser-dice and score A

This incident highlighted the main issue of Malaysia education

Memorize format to pass exam only

Change format = all die

Agree

It's already in subjective form during my years, but I'm not sure how does the new format look like.

sikit sikit kecoh

so whats the question like?

malas belajar pun nak blame kerajaan jugak ke?

when it first came out in 1993 spm, moral was mix of objective, subjective and essay. write until hand also wanna patah.

Yeah, that's why we need quota

how much for this dice?

change format all die or tips all bengkok so all die??

uncle spotted

You had it easy. Mine was subjective. And the answer is fixed... if you salah nilai, consider the whole question as 0.

there's no such thing anymore...my year its all about writing and memorizing

I don't think we can blame it on the students, the teachers and government had been teaching them to memorize = excel.

Suddenly, the government who set this memorize = excel mentality wants to change to be more liberal exam.

lol racist tahap dewa



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This post has been edited by Songlap: Nov 20 2013, 04:43 PM

memorize and puke it out

That's why I strongly support Chinese school they are not as idiotic & flip flop as gomen school.

huh? how old are you.

got 2 paper. objective and subjective. then got practical project somemore sial.

No offence, Moral has always been a really useless subject as you gain practically nothing from memorising 36 nilai.

It could be a useful subject like A-levels Thinking Skills which is designed to encourage student to think critically and outside of the box but moral is a shitty subject that if you think outside the box, your responds is usually wrong because your answer isnt on the marking scheme. Used the wrong nilai, zero regardless how you argue with it.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Nov 20 2013, 02:17 PM

Engkau memang bodoh ke atau belagak bodoh ini?

the way I see how the gomen run the country, you think I want to send my kids to gomen school?

Fat chance.

Robot need to be reprogrammed.

children also go for racist reasons? haiz

dulu lepas kelas moral je kelas aku panass
sbb kelas agama kena tukar pi class lain

He is just a troll, right? ps3_fanboy

kecian nufags

Moral student here, it change from huraikan dua nilai berdasarkan petikan. Etc if it relates with Patriotisme you use two nilai and kata kunci and hurai it like always. But now it change to nyata lima pengajaran. 10 marks ._.

Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia is ran by monkeys.

Just look at how all the teachers crying out due to their 404 web based system.

https://www.facebook.com/KamiMahuSPPBSDimansuhkan?fref=ts

wtf

how old ar u all?

Happy to say I intentionally scored a P7 for moral in my SPM. Actually, I was aiming for P8 but I afraid I actually end up failing so I decided not to cut it so close just in case.

Yes, intentional. As in I just got the objective part mostly correct (for the easy marks), purposely wrote silly answers to many of the subjective ones, and than wrote nonsense in the essay portion.

Still passed.

moral is a useless paper. all memorize and spam.

questions which can apply many nilai, but only selected can get marks.

and change format without telling teachers? the department is going nuts?

sitting for spm first time this year ._.

Mereka tak kehabis-habisan mau show who's the boss, don't they ?

Malaysian education system is already in terrible shape and STILL they want to play politics ....

Aduh !!

Changed format

So no straight A students d la..

expect alot 14 floor incident.

One of the many reasons why non bumi kids grow up to be disgruntled racists. Even from young they can witness the unfair discrimination.

No more objective since god knows when. Lol

just as planned.

ya la... tak macam majority yang malas tak leh idup tanpa tongkat sebab meritokrasi tu tak adil pada mereka. mereka la je yang tau bersyukur pandai berterima kasih pada kerajaan

sape menteri pendidikan?

We studied according to the format. Not this

moral is shitty subject.....they taught us 36 nilai moral and memorize kata kunci

moreover i don't think 'kebebasan bersuara should' be in one of those nilai, as long as katak still free making stupid remark

since when?
10 years ago? 20?

takkan perubahan sikit macam tu pun tak boleh cope, if you study the whole subject instead spotting question then it will not be a problem

YOU CAN'T BLAME THEM FOR MEMORIZING TO SCORE IN MORAL SUBJECT.WHY?Because that is how the stupid subject works since dono when.I mean that is a fact.That is how the paper is,and that is how the marking-scheme is.

It is not like I support memorizing-type education,but because that is just how the stupid Moral subject works.

No matter what,the government ought to tell the students that the format would be different

and anyway,i am pretty sure that is how the moral teacher teach the students.to study according to format.so who is really to blame?the government?or the teacher?or the student?

This post has been edited by abccab123: Nov 20 2013, 03:03 PM

I was the batch that had to take lit for pmr and est for spm. No one knew what the format was since it was first time, but did ok la.

here's an idea.why not abolish both moral studies and Islamic studies and make Malaysian studies compulsory?the muslims can get their easy A's as well eh?eh?

don't forget to strengthen our math and science syllabus too.it is too easy.i am sure muslims students can get their easy A's too!

This post has been edited by abccab123: Nov 20 2013, 03:05 PM

How to score in Moral:

1. Hafal all 36 nilai-nilai
2. Every question, put in all 36 nilai and crap out why it fits

in other words, their spotted question didnt came out?

You tak buat paper, you tutup you punya mulut lah. Kami disuruh untuk hafal 36 Nilai sahaja tetapi format keluar lain? Apa kita nak buat? 36 Nilai you boleh hafal kah? Dengan semua definisinya? Malas belajar kepala otak kau!

sO FUKEN true!!!!!

If its that easy, everyone get A then.

It is normal to have format changing every year but usually it is announced much earlier, unlike this year.

Life of a non bumi is a tragedy in Malaysia.

no,in other words the teacher has been teaching the students the wrong format.

belajar moral pon tak guna..

We studied everything that was told, we memorized the entire textbook , it's about the sudden change in format that causes our anger to rise to boiling point. Let's say you are supposed allowed to do your chemistry or physics experiment as a paper3 and on that day of exam , they requested you to do it with a hands-on experiment. What are your thoughts?
Nope, it's been a closed paper all these years, nothing to spot

Change format do leads to brain death in some..

wont die lar...the examiner will grade the papers according to requirement...ie how many NEED to pass and vice versa

Sit one SPM the others do O levels

Stop blaming the students

It's the SYSTEM that requires them to MEMORIZE EVERYTHING AND WRITE DOWN THE ANSWER IN A PRE-ARRANGED PATTERN

One word wrong the whole question you got goose egg

It's the system that's at fault - it's the politicians that are making the whole thing into a mockery.

exactly

even if the student is a genius with an iq of 160 or even a goddamn nobel prize winner,you still get 0 marks if u didnt use the correct word or perhaps the stupid definisi or kata kunci.that is just how the stupid paper work.

so the students HAVE to memorize,because that is the way to answer,not because they want,but because they have to

we need to revamp the education system. students in UK gets free meal, free books, free transport heck they dont even wear uniform to their colleges at 15, malaysia is left too far behind

Ayam disapprove of this format change.

UNDILAH BARISAN NASIONAL!!! FORMAT DITUKARKAN!!! PELAJAR TIDAK DIMAKLUMKAN!!!

Blame themselves. Suppose to study. Not memorize

I agree that it is plain memory work,
but please put urself in their shoes,
if u had that many subjects to prepare for,
u would freak out as well.
this is one of the easy A's to score
and if they gave notice earlier through trial papers or by informing the teachers,
I think it wont become such a big fuss.

They cant just make such abrupt changes in the exam system
and think that the good ones will still excel, to justify their actions

The fact that such a stupid subject with such a ridiculous approach to scoring exists just proves how gagal our education system is...

How can a closed paper test have spotted questions? Get your facts right before commenting eh. We were supposed to just memorize 36 Nilai for our essay question which needed the Nilai to be answered and this was thought to us for 2 years and suddenly on the last day, the format changed. You can cope meh? It's the same as going to the gym for two years, carrying 10KG weights and suddenly personal trainer ask you to carry 60KG on that day without any prior training or notice. Sure you bang balls there.

All memorize soalan bocor only. Format change, everyone hancur lol

our education system already in the sewer until the next GE

How is it that bad? My thought is a long as you understand the concept you can answer it. like chemistry or physics experiment if you can write in the paper you can do it in live setting.


funny la you, semua nak kait dengan corruption.

Well, those people buat bising here didn't actually do Moral paper...

They actually threaten the non bumi until this extend unbelievable...

You are the one who don't understand what I was trying to convey

Just like a product of the system itself.

I blame Malaysia's education system

Who set the questions?

Who set the format?

Who teach students to answer the questions and follow which format?

The students or the teachers?

So when I blame the system, who am I really blaming?

dude.ok what if the paper come out normal.if they didnt memorize,but study properly,how are they going to answer the question CORRECTLY according to the marking scheme?the moral paper works through memorization.one word wrong and you get a 0 marks.

SPM Moral past papers are confidential (sulit) so it is quite impossible to spot questions. And also, the students are asked to memorise 36 moral definitions word for word or by keywords just to ace in the exam.
If the government is serious in encouraging critical thinking, then the examination bureau shouldn't ask the students to memorise it or just inform them the format will be changed.

Do you know what you are talking about, Sir ?

If you know, please tell us how you should answer the question for that particular paper ?

If not, please STFU !

That Moral Paper is NOT ABOUT STUDYING, it's ALL ABOUT MEMORIZING EVERY SINGLE FARKING KEYWORDS AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IN PRE-APPROVED WAY.

One farking word wrong, or one farking definition that you have forgot to put in, THE WHOLE QUESTION YOU GOT ZERO MARK !

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, SIR ?

Did you take Pendidikan Moral before? The candidates are asked to memorise definitions word for word to answer the exam questions. They can't write their own moral definitions lest they will get their answers wrong.

WTS popcorn.

mari-mari!

This post has been edited by 5p3ak: Nov 20 2013, 03:22 PM

If you claim that I do not understand what you were trying to convey, it is because the way you wrote had CONVEYED THE WRONG MESSAGE !

Look at how many of the commentors in this thread are RE-POSTING your comment, as is, without adding anything

right on point.even if they give a better meaning,better definition of whatever the thing is,they still get a 0 marks,because they CAN only use the words that were provided in the 36 nilai crap.in other words 1 word wrong = 0 marks

Sit for O-levels or do a certificate if SPM don't work out

Just abolish it from the test.
Let's just face reality. Scoring in morals for the exam doesnt mean that the person have good morals

Because it is the truth

One simple question, which subject did you take in your SPM year? Pendidikan Moral or Islam?
Do you know that if the students write their own definition in other words with the same meaning as the original one prescribed by MOE, they will have their answers marked wrong and scored zero?

u don't study the subject u don't know how the system works.

in moral...understanding and using your own words to answer questions is pointless...because examiners are looking for specific phrases,

MOE no inform students about the format change...

Truly Malaysian, endless possibilities.

This post has been edited by 5p3ak: Nov 20 2013, 03:25 PM

u study also x guna if u no memorize all the nilai-nilai, kata kunci, definisi

u think so simple

Get your facts right. It's been a closed test for many years. How can there be soalan bocor and also, the SPM papers are not even printed in Malaysia for your information. No possibility of soalan bocor.

Oh yes yes. Those 36 bloody nilais.
Must memo word for word each definition.

It's just memorizing.
If you can memo well, then u are guaranteed to score.

/rant

Anyway pity those who took moral this year. If they didn't get A for moral, there goes their chance of scholarship.

in b4 tak suke sile kuar

Your thought ?

Well, your thought ain't worth shit, as far as the education system in Malaysia is concerned

For them, YOU MUST ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IN PARTICULAR WAY, YOU MUST USE THE PRE-APPROVED KEY-WORDS and YOU MUST PUT EVERYTHING DOWN THE WAY THEY WANT IT, or else, you got NO MARK !

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURE OF THE MORAL STUDY PAPER, Sir ?

From the way you write, YOU KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE SUBJECT !!!

So memorizing is the best form of education?

Then these students are worse

Already memorized all the kata kunci

Still cannot put them together into a proper essay

give him a better example.

Definisi from MOE example = Saya cinta ibu.

If you write your own one for example = Ibu dicintai saya = 0 marks

This is not so accurate but my point here is same meaning but different words/sentence = 0 marks

no need all CAPS la...I know you angry...but unless you really desperate for Bora-bora I dun think it's good idea to rage here...can debate it in a civilized manner

This post has been edited by 5p3ak: Nov 20 2013, 03:28 PM