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> Uproar over change in SPM Moral paper format, It baffles students and teachers

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SUSabccab123
post Nov 20 2013, 03:00 PM

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YOU CAN'T BLAME THEM FOR MEMORIZING TO SCORE IN MORAL SUBJECT.WHY?Because that is how the stupid subject works since dono when.I mean that is a fact.That is how the paper is,and that is how the marking-scheme is.

It is not like I support memorizing-type education,but because that is just how the stupid Moral subject works.

No matter what,the government ought to tell the students that the format would be different

and anyway,i am pretty sure that is how the moral teacher teach the students.to study according to format.so who is really to blame?the government?or the teacher?or the student?

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post Nov 20 2013, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ Nov 20 2013, 02:56 PM)
here's an idea. why not abolish moral studies & make Islamic studies compulsory? the non-muslims can get their easy A's as well eh? eh?
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here's an idea.why not abolish both moral studies and Islamic studies and make Malaysian studies compulsory?the muslims can get their easy A's as well eh?eh?

don't forget to strengthen our math and science syllabus too.it is too easy.i am sure muslims students can get their easy A's too!

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post Nov 20 2013, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 03:06 PM)
in other words, their spotted question didnt came out?
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no,in other words the teacher has been teaching the students the wrong format.
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Forgot Liao @ Nov 20 2013, 03:13 PM)
Stop blaming the students

It's the SYSTEM that requires them to MEMORIZE EVERYTHING AND WRITE DOWN THE ANSWER IN A PRE-ARRANGED PATTERN

One word wrong the whole question you got goose egg

It's the system that's at fault - it's the politicians that are making the whole thing into a mockery.
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exactly

even if the student is a genius with an iq of 160 or even a goddamn nobel prize winner,you still get 0 marks if u didnt use the correct word or perhaps the stupid definisi or kata kunci.that is just how the stupid paper work.

so the students HAVE to memorize,because that is the way to answer,not because they want,but because they have to
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Nov 20 2013, 03:16 PM)
Blame themselves. Suppose to study. Not memorize
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dude.ok what if the paper come out normal.if they didnt memorize,but study properly,how are they going to answer the question CORRECTLY according to the marking scheme?the moral paper works through memorization.one word wrong and you get a 0 marks.
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(leetan33 @ Nov 20 2013, 03:21 PM)
Did you take Pendidikan Moral before? The candidates are asked to memorise definitions word for word to answer the exam questions. They can't write their own moral definitions lest they will get their answers wrong.
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right on point.even if they give a better meaning,better definition of whatever the thing is,they still get a 0 marks,because they CAN only use the words that were provided in the 36 nilai crap.in other words 1 word wrong = 0 marks
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(leetan33 @ Nov 20 2013, 03:24 PM)
One simple question, which subject did you take in your SPM year? Pendidikan Moral or Islam?
Do you know that if the students write their own definition in other words with the same meaning as the original one prescribed by MOE, they will have their answers marked wrong and scored zero?
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give him a better example.

Definisi from MOE example = Saya cinta ibu.

If you write your own one for example = Ibu dicintai saya = 0 marks

This is not so accurate but my point here is same meaning but different words/sentence = 0 marks
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(PaulReedSmooth @ Nov 20 2013, 03:25 PM)
Oh yes yes. Those 36 bloody nilais.
Must memo word for word each definition.

It's just memorizing.
If you can memo well, then u are guaranteed to score.

/rant

Anyway pity those who took moral this year. If they didn't get A for moral, there goes their chance of scholarship.

in b4 tak suke sile kuar
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Oh yeas I forgot about that too.JPA needs 9A+ right?I see what the government did here
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Forgot Liao @ Nov 20 2013, 03:31 PM)
You TRUE COLOR finally comes out ...
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i think he is being sarcastic
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:33 PM

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PS:So first we have matriculation segregation,now we have this,what is next?

Bahasa Cina SPM come out d not?Better be ready,you don't know if suddenly change too whistling.gif

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