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Credit Cards Credit Card v18, Post/Ask general questions here, Please read post 1-3 before posting, tq

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post Jul 17 2014, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jul 17 2014, 01:25 AM)
Bro, next time you better read the terms and conditions before applying for a card. I believe no where in the T&C did Citibank ever promised to waive their credit card annual fees. You claim that Citibank CS may have inform you this and that, but in the T&C (all banks), it is clearly stated that they have the rights to change any policy.

Anyway, you should be happy as Citibank was kind enough to waive your annual fee.

Moreover, last year Citibank rewarded their new PremierMiles members with 60,000 Enrich Miles - where one can redeem a one-way trip on Business Class to Europe. These people has nothing to complain about if they are charged the annual fee the following year.

And for those who benefit from the FREE taxi rides equivalent to more than the annual fee, they got nothing to complain about too.

And if you refer the threads here, the most active thread is the FREE FOR LIFE Maybankard 2 Cards where the AMEX conversion of Treats Points to Enrich/Kris Flyer Miles is even better than Citibank PremierMiles.

For my case, Citibank has been good to me. They waived my Platinum card last year and this year after I begged them (once only and they waived it on the spot).

Anyway, what's the big deal if any bank don't want to entertain our request for annual fee waiver. Just terminate the card and go get one that offers some kind of annual fee waiver mechanism - and if we are unable to satisfy the conditions to be eligible for auto waiver, don't apply for it.

Moral of the story is - if one is not willing to pay annual fee for a credit card, redeem all points and stop using the card a month before the anniversary date and be prepared to terminate the card comes anniversary date.
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Bro, thanks for your valuable feedback and I enjoy reading lots of your posts. I fully understand all the T&C and definitely aware that Citibank is not obliged to entertain my request, neither do I think I will be able to take any action against them. However, having used their cards for many years and it's true that their officer always informing me that it's as simple as just a call and implied that a waiver is almost certain, I have never thought of changing my card as I just want to be convenient and stick to one card. In fact I only use Citibank Premiermiles, though not spending a lot, but at least I spend more than 40k per year, not a lot, but I still spend. RM 600 annual fee is indeed a lot to me. I have spent much more last year than previous years, past few years waiver was indeed just a call away, but this year I went through a lot of hassle and many calls made, many arguments, to get that waived and I was "warned" this time that waiver is going to be very "subjective" and at the mercy of their absolute discretion. Well I learnt a lesson and going to transfer all my miles to airlines, guess it's time for me to start changing cards now.
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post Jul 21 2014, 02:53 AM

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My friend want to apply credit card (Hong Leong Bank) but his application always rejected... Any way of working around it? He got annual income of about 48000, but his epf only included basic salary...
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post Jul 21 2014, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(DrAlex88 @ Jul 21 2014, 02:53 AM)
My friend want to apply credit card (Hong Leong Bank) but his application always rejected... Any way of working around it? He got annual income of about 48000, but his epf only included basic salary...
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try to attach the allowance/claim slips together with salary slips and print out the bank statements of where the allowance/claim were banked-in to monthly to be attached together.
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post Jul 21 2014, 03:15 PM

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i saw at the first page i cannot apply cc even though i owned a credit card more than a year? may i know why... last time can right?
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post Jul 21 2014, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(shawn87 @ Jul 21 2014, 03:15 PM)
i saw at the first page i cannot apply cc even though i owned a credit card more than a year? may i know why... last time can right?
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Rules from Bank Negara... nod.gif
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post Jul 21 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(fly126 @ Jul 21 2014, 03:17 PM)
Rules from Bank Negara... nod.gif
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oh so now dun haf tht policy anymore? hmm.gif
how about to add 1 more card from the bank that im already using? do i need to provide my docs again or they will proceed based on my payment history? (good paymaster)
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post Jul 21 2014, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(shawn87 @ Jul 21 2014, 03:20 PM)
oh so now dun haf tht policy anymore?  hmm.gif 
how about to add 1 more card from the bank that im already using? do i need to provide my docs again or they will proceed based on my payment history? (good paymaster)
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YES, a Compulsory from Now... nod.gif
Whether in Card Upgrade, Increase Credit Limit or get an Additional Card... They will Need Your Latest Income doc as Supporting to Evaluate/ Process Your Apps sweat.gif

This post has been edited by fly126: Jul 21 2014, 04:01 PM
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post Jul 21 2014, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(fly126 @ Jul 21 2014, 03:43 PM)
YES, a Compulsory from Now... nod.gif
Whether in Card Upgrade, Increase Credit Limit or get an Additional Card... They will Need Your Latest Income doc as Supporting to Evaluate/ Process Your Apps
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ic.. so no matter what from now on to get a card need a proper documents...
thanks for ur info.. have to get the docs ready for application..

i heard from my fren said bank might offer u credit card if u have loan from them.. car loan or housing.. also no longer exist?
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QUOTE(shawn87 @ Jul 21 2014, 03:45 PM)
ic.. so no matter what from now on to get a card need a proper documents...
thanks for ur info.. have to get the docs ready for application..

i heard from my fren said bank might offer u credit card if u have loan from them.. car loan or housing.. also no longer exist?
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Yup... for Some of the Bank
It's come together as Package (Housing Loan + Credit Card)
as the Bank said to U seem that U can afford a House (loan) & Why Not we give U a CC as Complementary... tongue.gif

This post has been edited by fly126: Jul 21 2014, 10:24 PM
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post Jul 22 2014, 05:06 PM

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Can retiree with no income proof except dividends from EPF qualify for a credit card?
I know it's its definitely a "No" from Standard Chartered.

This post has been edited by kwokwah: Jul 22 2014, 05:07 PM
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post Jul 22 2014, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(kwokwah @ Jul 22 2014, 05:06 PM)
Can retiree with no income proof except dividends from EPF qualify for a credit card?
I know it's its definitely a "No" from Standard Chartered.
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Definitely NO with ALL the Bank in Malaysia sweat.gif
It's Compulsory Now U need to have Income Proof to Apply Credit Card

This post has been edited by fly126: Jul 22 2014, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(fly126 @ Jul 22 2014, 06:55 PM)
Definitely NO with ALL the Bank in Malaysia sweat.gif
It's Compulsory Now U need  to have Income Proof to Apply Credit Card
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Not even with pledging FD or rental income?
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QUOTE(iamWill @ Jul 22 2014, 09:42 PM)
Not even with pledging FD or rental income?
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You need to supply income documents nowadays even when you pledge FD, however the details in it will not affect the outcome of the application. But if don't submit, chances are your application will be unsuccessful. BTW, for rental income, the rental agreement is regarded as a proof of income.
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QUOTE(iamWill @ Jul 22 2014, 09:42 PM)
Not even with pledging FD or rental income?
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I'm refer that on a Retiree with No income proof except dividends from EPF
as FD Pledging for Credit Card Not Every Bank got FD Pledging Credit Card Service & Not sure the ppl with Rental Income... hmm.gif

I think It's Depends to Bank, Maybe some of the Bank want Your Employment History keep it as Reference, also... blink.gif

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QUOTE(kwokwah @ Jul 22 2014, 05:06 PM)
Can retiree with no income proof except dividends from EPF qualify for a credit card?
I know it's its definitely a "No" from Standard Chartered.
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I'm sure Gen-X can answer this smile.gif
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QUOTE(shawn87 @ Jul 21 2014, 03:45 PM)
ic.. so no matter what from now on to get a card need a proper documents...
thanks for ur info.. have to get the docs ready for application..

i heard from my fren said bank might offer u credit card if u have loan from them.. car loan or housing.. also no longer exist?
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this applies to new loan application and only some banks offering it this way. however if you apply for loans, you also need to submit your income proofs, etc. and the cc that they offering you will also be based on that income proofs. in brief, it is a must to submit your income proofs for cc application.

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post Jul 23 2014, 08:31 AM

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Some banks I know do allow retirees to have credit cards based on:

1. You are a VIP customer meaning private, premier banking etc.
2. You hold substantial unit trusts from them like "Public Mutual"
3. You are a high salaried earner (salary bank thru them) before you retire.
4. You are an existing credit card holder - continue with the card after retirement.
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post Jul 23 2014, 01:58 PM

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some of them submit every docs and eligible to apply yet got rejected.. somes gave old epf and pay slip (not latest) approved by bank... is it easier to get approval if apply through the cc booth?
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QUOTE(shawn87 @ Jul 23 2014, 01:58 PM)
some of them submit every docs and eligible to apply yet got rejected.. somes gave old epf and pay slip (not latest) approved by bank... is it easier to get approval if apply through the cc booth?
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yes, it's easier to get approval if you apply through cc booth than if you apply from the branch.

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