I looking 35CM cube tank, where you get the 30cm cube tank?
Mid of year upgrade? How about now? I need 2 of it

Now running single tank, with EHEIM 250 classis too.
The 2nd EHEIM is in standby mode now

Edit: I dont want to know/hear about RO machine.... later hand itchy liao.... 

you can try if via online is available. a lot of online seller nowadays too.
I bought mine from Fish depot.
not sure when will upgrade, my 30cm cube is a new tank, only 3 weeks old. hahahaha.....
wanna keep for a while before deciding to upgrade. cos if i upgrade, i will upgrade all my shrimp tanks too one shot, another few K expected lol......

own DIY RO water kit is dirt cheap i tell you. if you DIY yourself la.
the RO membrane and pump size depending on your requirement.

those 50G or 75G RO water kit is very cheap to DIY. 400G will cost a bit more.

but still way cheaper than you buy a ready made type, trust me.

Mind show the DIY RO way?
thanks in advance

no secret. they will breed.

better looking glass tank is definitely a big YES....... go ahead man~! i wanna upgrade my recently set up 30cm cube to a 60p tank soon, hopefully by mid this year la.

i know how it feels to spend all this money. but generally, for planted tank, every 1ft tank will cost you around RM1k. so if a 2ft tank, be prepared to spend like 2k on it.

let me count how much have i spent all these years since i started.

My first planted tank journey in 2012
Tank close to RM200
tank cabinet RM300
ADA amazonia RM110+
LED light RM300+
EHEIM 2215 around RM400
CO2 set easily RM400 or 500 bucks
hardscape another RM100
seachem products + ADA fertilisers = RM200
not to forget the livestocks, plants, fans, etc etc so many.
total spent also close to RM2k

Guppy journey in 2015
set up is not that expensive, bare tanks that cost me like 40 each and some plastic tanks for fry (15 bucks each). i have up to 48 tanks at one point.
some air pumps here and there easily cost me around 200 bucks.
the most expensive is the livestock, each pair of guppy cost me around 250 - 350 bucks, i even fly to bangkok and taiwan to pick them (forget about the flights and monies spent during the trip).
brine shrimp, one can cost around RM150 (last only about 4 months). i keep and breed guppies for 3 years, so you count.
all in all, easily spent RM5k here

Shrimping journey in 2018
system tank setup one time cost > RM5k (including a chiller)
Chiller is not an optimum choice, end up sold 800 bucks, get an AC and blast the AC for 14 hours a day.
shrimps, i spent easily another 2-3k in buying lifestocks, give up tracking ady.
but still keeping and breeding now.
Total spent easily RM8k (not to forget, about RM100 on house electricity too) for just one AC.

My renewed planted tank (30cm cube) and a small 30cm rectangular tank
tank RM115
filter - RM130 (1 HOB and 1 hangon back canister)
plants around RM150
seachem fertilisers (almost full range minus "Advance") - around RM300
hardscape - rocks and driftwood around RM80
some livestocks - around RM100
Total spent here also around RM600+

Also, going to buy a CO2 (4L) tank set which will easily cost around RM350
plus, Chihiros WRGB II which will also cost around 600++ for 2ft (since i would plan to upgrade my planted tank).

dare not count how much i have spent all these years. darnnnnn.........
could have been a lot richer if didnt spend on all these hobbies.

EDIT: Forgotten to add my own DIY RO water machine which also cost me around 600 or 700 bucks, a lot of time and money wasted for the trial and error.
damnnnnnn

I looking 35CM cube tank, where you get the 30cm cube tank?
Mid of year upgrade? How about now? I need 2 of it

Now running single tank, with EHEIM 250 classis too.
The 2nd EHEIM is in standby mode now

Edit: I dont want to know/hear about RO machine.... later hand itchy liao.... 

i see
can share
what do u think helped most
to make yr caridinas comfortable to breed ?
ok
i feel so much better now
cos i spent 300+
& tot i m spending too much already
haha..
i try to save
use those CN TW brands
seems a lot cheaper their things

about the aircon electric usage
can know where do u keep yr tanks ?
is it a big or small room ?
and what temperature do u set the aircon ?
if small tank
i think using bottled ro water is still doable
6L is rm5
so far i use tap water for wc
& only ro for top up
havent calculated what is the
tip off point to buy ro machine yet
mayb will get 1 in future
i saw lazada got many china ones

you feel better cos others spent more than you? hahaha, not the right mindset bro. there's nothing to compare or compete with, just do whatever that is comfortable within your reasonable means. but spending 300+ only is no big deal in our hobby. hahah

i keep the tanks in a room, not big not small by any means, 1hp inverter ac running  at 26 degree for at least 12-14 hours a day, be mindful, this room does not get afternoon sun, so it's cooler in another words.

can we know your rational for using tap water for wc and RO water for topup only?
to me, it kinda defeat the purpose if you ask me. is either you go all out or don't do.
shrimp is very sensitive towards the elements you have in the water and they are often at the bottom of the tank when things settle down, which is where your shrimps lurk around.

for ro water kit, suggest you get one with pump, just a suggestion, the call is still yours.

hahaa
ya la
$ not easy to earn
so dun wan let go so easy

i see
about the aircon
how abt at nite ?
just open windows & use fan ?

mm..
ya i knw supposed to ro water
but wana upgrade gradually
i tested tap water
gh kh quite low
so jus add some cheapo water additives
see how
if really need
i will get a ro unit
really keen to make my shrimps grow
so i am willing to spend more if there is no other way

btw
i see my neo berrying
but the egg is white
i see online its supposed to be yellow right ?

not saying that you cannot achieve the result if you try to save. but to me is either you go big or you go home, if you save here, save there, missed this one out and that one out, then you might not achieve the goal and end up with disappointment too.

but tell you what? I can also set up a very functional tank (from scratch) for just neocaridina under 150 bucks and can have them breed like crazy too.

aircon is rightfully 24 hours on, when the weather is hot i switch it on for up to 18-20 hours.

for water, no such thing as gradually upgrade in your existing tank, is either you use RO water or don't use RO water.
When you decide to you use tap water right from the start, and when you have tap water in your tank, it simply means you have some unknown mineral in your tank which might be harmful to your shrimps and they stays in your tank.
you can completely eliminate this by using RO water only, right from the start.

I have never seen white egg on neo before, i could be wrong.
red shrimps carry red eggs
yellow shrimps carry yellow eggs
black shrimps carry black eggs
these are the neo shrimps that I kept before, based on my personal experience.

just put fan la. i have a friend breeding caridina with out door tanks using fan. no problem.

the problem with shrimp keeping if u read white people advice it will never be right. the GH, KH and PH u can follow. temperature can be higher than what they state.

the shrimp also take time to get used to the tank anyway so be patient, if u keep messing around with the parameters, keep changing water too often then it will delay or make things worse only

just put fan la. i have a friend breeding caridina with out door tanks using fan. no problem.

the problem with shrimp keeping if u read white people advice it will never be right. the GH, KH and PH u can follow. temperature can be higher than what they state.

the shrimp also take time to get used to the tank anyway so be patient, if u keep messing around with the parameters, keep changing water too often then it will delay or make things worse only

agree no harm trying if you are putting in some 6 bucks CRS or CBS.

bet you won't do this if you are putting in some PRL which cost you RM100 each.

where can i buy the shrimp around PJ? i just got myself a small aquascape tank.

where can i buy the shrimp around PJ? i just got myself a small aquascape tank.

hi guys. im newbies about shrimp.
rear some fish for last few years but havent got some shrimp.
so thinking want to start it. so now this is my setup

- 30cm/1ft  cheap cube tank
- put cheap soil, CAY branded.
- driftwood
- airpump sponge filter + HOB filter with sponge inlet. ( mybe later on just use airpump sponge filter, now in cycling period, so thinking better to put both filter)
- cheap WRGB light , around rm20 for 12w

- tank now in cycling period, almost 2 weeks.got some  dust algae and some hair algae already
- started with bacteria starter, those green bottle, bacto clean, using some water from cleaning up filter from other tank.
- just put hornwort last week and chrismass moss. to faster the cycling and use the nitrate/ammonia
- got some pest snail on this tank
- already order java fern, but mostly need to put quarantine 1st as the seller might use fert/etc.. might harm shrimp
- this tank will be shrimp only tank, i want to breed them.

looking to get normal cherry shimp this week. mybe put 30s 1st. some said 10 already enough. but seller said u wont see a thing in the tank later on. 
will do 50% water change and test before put the shrimp.
so im looking forward for tips/suggestion that might help me. 100% newbies about shrimp. thanks guys.

no need to use soil for neocaridina shrimps. but soil will keep the water in slightly acidic condition. filter can put right from the start. how big is your HOB? got a lot of media inside?

i use cheap soil, CAY branded. from the review it said the worst aquasoil. 
plant inside tank is mini xmass moss and hornwort, later will put in java fern.

tested the ph is around 7.6-7.8, i already put daun ketapang tu lower it abit.
my water parameters bit soft. fresh test  from tap water is around 50-70ppm from the tds meter. in my tank is around 180ppm.
hardness is around 3dGH( 50mg/l), 1dKH ( 0-40mg/l).. using test strip, so might be not accurate.

HOB is not that big, can put few bio ring media, 2 sponge filter, and 1 hv plastic plate for bacterial. water output around 500l/h, but i hv set the lowest flow. mybe will change to new HOB since this HOB is more than 10years already.  lots of noice.
i also put sponge filter with airpump.
and last night is the day i put my shrimps in. around 50s include the small fry. few already berried. and after 1 hour i put, i see some got molting skin already.  so hoping for the best.