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post Dec 1 2020, 09:30 PM

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the crystal shrimp seem to b more aggressive
when bump with the cherry
the cherry sure give way
even the bigger one

i saw a crystal
steal food from a cherry

is it better to separate them ?
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post Dec 10 2020, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 5 2020, 10:27 AM)
what "crystal" shrimp?? if you mean those cheap feeder shrimp. Yes
Even Amano is 3-4x bigger than neo-c so if limited food amano will grab first.
Amano also kind of aggressive chasing food.
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bigger normally wins
mayb need to feed more
so everyone got chan to eat haha

the crystal caradina
they seem tougher than the cherries
the body looks hard & bulky
tempted to give it a squeeze
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post Dec 11 2020, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 11 2020, 09:14 AM)
wow, Caridina easy cost 3-5x than normal Neo Caridina

If you go deep you must know both type living in different water parameter.
Refer here.https://theaquariumadviser.com/shrimp-breed...7.5%20and%208.5.

So you need get a stable water parameter before introduce any shrimp (GH, KH, N02, No3, PH etc)
Water parameter highly impact by substrate you using etc...

If you just wanna easy maintain, always choose red cherry, RM2+ only, get 10, if they like the water, they breed like crazy.

Again, DONT over feed shrimp, waste of food is very bad to water.
Shrimp eat anyting grow inside tank... control feeding also meaning control the population

Welcome to shrimp world
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tx for d welcome..

just testing haha
i bought 3 crystal red
another 3 wine red
the normal crystal dead
but the wine reds survive
looks very healthy too
now act like taikor around the cherries

i just got a bigger tank
will get more different cherries
getting deeper now
din plan to spend so much initially

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post Dec 31 2020, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Dec 22 2020, 09:46 AM)
what's your water parameters?
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i din get those things
cos seems quite xpensif
so just cycle the water
& keep fingers crossed
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post Jan 4 2021, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jan 3 2021, 04:32 PM)
What water did you use?
RO or tap water?
You'll only need gh and tds reader if you use soil as substrate..
they are not as expensive.

How much have you spent to buy your shrimps?

Honestly, if you wanna go into caridina shrimps, then you'll prepare to spend a bit, otherwise it's just a waste of time and money in buying shrimps.

I think Neocaridina shrimps suits you better.

Lastly, what's the water temperature?
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Tap water
Ok i'll check out the readers
I got the cheapeat ahrimps i can find
Rm2 - 10 each
Temp 26-28

Ya
I think i will concentrate on neos 1st
Get my fire under control
Haha
Like tachlio said
Get the tank stabilised 1st

What is this ?
Java or christmas moss ya ?
Found it floating in the tank



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post Jan 6 2021, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jan 4 2021, 02:37 PM)
neo could survive better in your tank.
cycling of a shrimp tank takes 30 days.

caridina shrimps can do well between 24-26°C

It looks like java moss to me in your picture.
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Ok
I wil concentrate on neo then
Strangely
The cardinas price
Even cheaper than neo now

My shrimps
All like zombies
Gather still in 1 place
Or gang red vs orange ?



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post Jan 8 2021, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jan 6 2021, 12:11 PM)
abnormal behaviour, shrimps are not schooling category, they normally wander the entire tank.

there are expensive caridinas which can cost you few hundred bucks to few thousand each, there's a price to pay if you want to have good quality caridinas.

however, for those cheap caridinas, are normally the culled or the lower grade that's why it's cheap. Have you seen SGD5,000 a pair shrimps?

So for the lower grade caridinas vs neo, neo seems like more expensive right?

Neo is generally more hardy and more so you should test your water right? given that the cheaper shrimps - neo also behaving weirdly in your tank. You wouldn't want to waste money keep buying shrimps also right.

By the way, you should not mix 2 different types of neo in the same tank, they would cross breed and you would get funny funny offspring.
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Ya..
The previous shrimps
R more active than this

I have been observing them
They seem to b grazing
Mayb they r still gettin used to d bright environ
As the breeders tank was slimy
So thick with algae tht
The shrimps r not visible
I might pull my lights higher
As now its max brightness
As i want the moss to grow fast

For time being i oni got 1 tank
But i stil wana enjoy the colors
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I m itchy to get the green & blue ones
But holding myself back
Probably will get another tank if they stabilise

Its a realy enjoyable pastime
I hope it doesnt bcome an obsession
As i knw hobbyists can get so into d hobby
& spend a lot of money for the exotic
as time goes by
Guess tht y i m so itchy
To get the crystals haha..
Okok
Better not

Wonder if this guy is infected
Or he just happen to have funky spots ?

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post Jan 12 2021, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jan 8 2021, 12:20 PM)
No idea as I don't keep neocaridina shrimps.

But this looks to me like a low grade painted fire red shrimp. if it's behaving healthily, then theres nothing to worry.

all the best in your shrimp journey.
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Hehe
Tq ..
Duno when i can grad
To keep higher grade ones

Hope can see more ppl post their pets
Like nt so active thread

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I notice a lot of baby snails
Infesting my tank
Wonder if they r good / bad
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post Jan 23 2021, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jan 12 2021, 06:16 PM)
this is limpet or i call it as garden snails, they will breed in no time and flood your tank.

nothing bad, just an eye sore to me at least. It would be better if you kill them off.

i don't like all these pest snails. it comes together from your plant, most likely.

So it's important to either:

1. get tissue cultured plant, or
2. quarantine and kill off all the pests in the newly acquired plants before placing them into your tank.
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Jan 14 2021, 07:00 PM)
harmless but I dont like it lay egg around the glass...
and it will breed like crazy

Nowaday, when I took new plant in, I quarantine with plant with snail medic for 2 day before putting to my tank.
(do take note, anything kill snail also kill shrimp, so rinse throughly)
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its tiresome to kill them
used no planaria but no effect
now manually removing them daily
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QUOTE(blizzardcarl92 @ Jan 13 2021, 05:38 PM)
hey guys, is there any PRL keepers here? just wondering how long does it take for the eggs to hatch? mine seems to take forever sweat.gif

here some pics of them!

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very fat
what do u feed them ?

QUOTE(tehoice @ Jan 15 2021, 09:22 PM)
It's very easy to breeddd!!!!
no worries, they would breed in no time....
Here's some of my shrimpsss

Part 1
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no need plants in yr part 2 tank
they can breed too ?
wow
what r those fuzzy things they r eating ?

QUOTE(calvinzai @ Jan 22 2021, 11:16 AM)
Hi all. Nice to meet shrimp keepers here. My humble shrimps

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saw these galaxies at the shop
really nice..
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post Feb 7 2021, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Jan 24 2021, 10:03 PM)
If there is no other fish inside, you no need the plant inside tank.
Its more easy to maintain the water parameter.

You only need a good sponge filter, the biofilm will grow on it, that it.
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jan 25 2021, 09:26 AM)
No planaria is to kill off planaria bro. suggest you get medicines to kill off the snails. Not that I'm promoting this brand or what but i just find that this med is very very effective and it's kinda cheap to use it too.
https://shopee.com.my/SHRIMPSLAND-SNAILKILL...1716.7348358135
actually no need to have plant is fine, my shrimp tanks are all without plants and they could do equally well too.
feeding them were snowflake shrimp food.
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whoa reali cheap
i got slaughtered already

if the tank is empty
how about ph ya ?
how to regulate keep it acidic ?
i read the role of soil is to keep it constant
even when wc

any secret to making them breed ?
the caradine seem less appetite than neo
the neos crowd around the food
while caradina keep munching the biofilm
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post Feb 16 2021, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Feb 7 2021, 09:45 AM)
Naturally, you can control PH via putting Indian Almond Leave (Plenty around M'sia), or Msia Driftwood.
Else good substrate is easier as its auto adjust you water parameter. ADA Amazonia / Fluval Stratum all not bad.

For shrimp, underfeed always better so your water parameter wont fluctuate due to food waste.
Food/Pop > Ammonia > No2(via bacteria) > No3 (via Bacteria) > Consume by plant
So without plant, the extra No3 will be inside your tank. Easiest ways to get rid is via floating plant, as this plant don't need pump Co2

So once your tank stable (~1month), your shrimp will start booming.
Again, take note other parameter like temperature, GH/KH etc (every tank is vary, you can ensure 100% follow those wrote in website, as long as shrimp breed then just leave it)
We always do same mistake during early stage, buy too much equip, but actually what its need is stable parameter for shrimp.
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not cheap leh this hobi
i'm accumulating bottles of stull already
& the tests r more xpensif than seeing a dr
hmm..
but ya
if the water is not good they dont thrive
then no use going into this hobby
need to b more disciplined
taking care of them

QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 15 2021, 09:54 AM)
soil is the best, no need to put any other thing, just aqua soil and you're good to go, to keep the pH level below 7.

what's your temperature again? if more than 26, then you can literally forget about breeding them. they can survive at 28 but they won't breed, based on my own experience as well.
it doesn't matter whether it's fire red or bloody mary or blue velvet or green jade shrimp, so long they are neocaridina shrimp, they can survive under 30, but chances are harder to breed at 30, around 28, they can still breed pretty well. but it you can keep them under 26, then that will make them thrive a lot and will let you have a good colony.

ghost shrimp? those that ppl use to feed the bigger fish ones? no idea with them though. never kept before.
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its 27 - 28
sigh.. i love caridina shrimps
but to turn on the hall aircon daily
i think i m not willing to do that..
even my bedroom i only use fan


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post Feb 16 2021, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(eyerule @ Feb 16 2021, 09:54 PM)
28c no problem can breed and thrive. mine is 28
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wah
how u do tht ?
even the seller say kenot
whats yr secret ?
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post Feb 17 2021, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(eyerule @ Feb 16 2021, 11:29 PM)
no secret. they will breed.
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i see
can share
what do u think helped most
to make yr caridinas comfortable to breed ?

QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 17 2021, 12:50 PM)
better looking glass tank is definitely a big YES....... go ahead man~! i wanna upgrade my recently set up 30cm cube to a 60p tank soon, hopefully by mid this year la.

i know how it feels to spend all this money. but generally, for planted tank, every 1ft tank will cost you around RM1k. so if a 2ft tank, be prepared to spend like 2k on it.

let me count how much have i spent all these years since i started.

My first planted tank journey in 2012
Tank close to RM200
tank cabinet RM300
ADA amazonia RM110+
LED light RM300+
EHEIM 2215 around RM400
CO2 set easily RM400 or 500 bucks
hardscape another RM100
seachem products + ADA fertilisers = RM200
not to forget the livestocks, plants, fans, etc etc so many.
total spent also close to RM2k

Guppy journey in 2015
set up is not that expensive, bare tanks that cost me like 40 each and some plastic tanks for fry (15 bucks each). i have up to 48 tanks at one point.
some air pumps here and there easily cost me around 200 bucks.
the most expensive is the livestock, each pair of guppy cost me around 250 - 350 bucks, i even fly to bangkok and taiwan to pick them (forget about the flights and monies spent during the trip).
brine shrimp, one can cost around RM150 (last only about 4 months). i keep and breed guppies for 3 years, so you count.
all in all, easily spent RM5k here

Shrimping journey in 2018
system tank setup one time cost > RM5k (including a chiller)
Chiller is not an optimum choice, end up sold 800 bucks, get an AC and blast the AC for 14 hours a day.
shrimps, i spent easily another 2-3k in buying lifestocks, give up tracking ady.
but still keeping and breeding now.
Total spent easily RM8k (not to forget, about RM100 on house electricity too) for just one AC.

My renewed planted tank (30cm cube) and a small 30cm rectangular tank
tank RM115
filter - RM130 (1 HOB and 1 hangon back canister)
plants around RM150
seachem fertilisers (almost full range minus "Advance") - around RM300
hardscape - rocks and driftwood around RM80
some livestocks - around RM100
Total spent here also around RM600+

Also, going to buy a CO2 (4L) tank set which will easily cost around RM350
plus, Chihiros WRGB II which will also cost around 600++ for 2ft (since i would plan to upgrade my planted tank).

dare not count how much i have spent all these years. darnnnnn.........
could have been a lot richer if didnt spend on all these hobbies.

EDIT: Forgotten to add my own DIY RO water machine which also cost me around 600 or 700 bucks, a lot of time and money wasted for the trial and error.
damnnnnnn
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ok
i feel so much better now
cos i spent 300+
& tot i m spending too much already
haha..
i try to save
use those CN TW brands
seems a lot cheaper their things

about the aircon electric usage
can know where do u keep yr tanks ?
is it a big or small room ?
and what temperature do u set the aircon ?

QUOTE(tachlio @ Feb 17 2021, 01:32 PM)
I looking 35CM cube tank, where you get the 30cm cube tank?
Mid of year upgrade? How about now? I need 2 of it

Now running single tank, with EHEIM 250 classis too.
The 2nd EHEIM is in standby mode now

Edit: I dont want to know/hear about RO machine.... later hand itchy liao....  vmad.gif
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if small tank
i think using bottled ro water is still doable
6L is rm5
so far i use tap water for wc
& only ro for top up
havent calculated what is the
tip off point to buy ro machine yet
mayb will get 1 in future
i saw lazada got many china ones
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post Feb 19 2021, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 18 2021, 10:13 AM)
you feel better cos others spent more than you? hahaha, not the right mindset bro. there's nothing to compare or compete with, just do whatever that is comfortable within your reasonable means. but spending 300+ only is no big deal in our hobby. hahah

i keep the tanks in a room, not big not small by any means, 1hp inverter ac running  at 26 degree for at least 12-14 hours a day, be mindful, this room does not get afternoon sun, so it's cooler in another words.

can we know your rational for using tap water for wc and RO water for topup only?
to me, it kinda defeat the purpose if you ask me. is either you go all out or don't do.
shrimp is very sensitive towards the elements you have in the water and they are often at the bottom of the tank when things settle down, which is where your shrimps lurk around.

for ro water kit, suggest you get one with pump, just a suggestion, the call is still yours.
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hahaa
ya la
$ not easy to earn
so dun wan let go so easy

i see
about the aircon
how abt at nite ?
just open windows & use fan ?

mm..
ya i knw supposed to ro water
but wana upgrade gradually
i tested tap water
gh kh quite low
so jus add some cheapo water additives
see how
if really need
i will get a ro unit
really keen to make my shrimps grow
so i am willing to spend more if there is no other way

btw
i see my neo berrying
but the egg is white
i see online its supposed to be yellow right ?

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post Feb 19 2021, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 19 2021, 09:28 AM)
not saying that you cannot achieve the result if you try to save. but to me is either you go big or you go home, if you save here, save there, missed this one out and that one out, then you might not achieve the goal and end up with disappointment too.

but tell you what? I can also set up a very functional tank (from scratch) for just neocaridina under 150 bucks and can have them breed like crazy too.

aircon is rightfully 24 hours on, when the weather is hot i switch it on for up to 18-20 hours.

for water, no such thing as gradually upgrade in your existing tank, is either you use RO water or don't use RO water.
When you decide to you use tap water right from the start, and when you have tap water in your tank, it simply means you have some unknown mineral in your tank which might be harmful to your shrimps and they stays in your tank.
you can completely eliminate this by using RO water only, right from the start.

I have never seen white egg on neo before, i could be wrong.
red shrimps carry red eggs
yellow shrimps carry yellow eggs
black shrimps carry black eggs
these are the neo shrimps that I kept before, based on my personal experience.
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ya
i understand where u r coming from
i am deriving much joy from this hobby
& upgrading my knowledge
really hope to keep it moving
i will b accelerating with enhanced skill & awareness

oh
thats interesting
the bit about eggs following the shrimp color
really a revelation to me
hmm
will need to monitor my shrimps pregnancy then
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QUOTE(eyerule @ Feb 21 2021, 09:57 AM)
just put fan la. i have a friend breeding caridina with out door tanks using fan. no problem.

the problem with shrimp keeping if u read white people advice it will never be right. the GH, KH and PH u can follow. temperature can be higher than what they state.

the shrimp also take time to get used to the tank anyway so be patient, if u keep messing around with the parameters, keep changing water too often then it will delay or make things worse only
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wow..
outdoor some more
must have lots shady green right
its hot season now
does yr tank exceed 28 ?
mine overshoot already
i scared so i on the aircon awhile
in the afternoon

i got more test kits already
see if i can extend wc to 2weeks onot
as u said
i dont want to disturb them too much too
less work is good hahaha


QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 22 2021, 02:26 PM)
agree no harm trying if you are putting in some 6 bucks CRS or CBS.

bet you won't do this if you are putting in some PRL which cost you RM100 each.
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yup
i m playing with the cheapest crs now
so its not so heart pain yet
i m trying to stretch the parameters
see how far they can go
actually died a few tails from each batch already
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post Apr 7 2021, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(cassie_90 @ Mar 11 2021, 10:45 AM)
where can i buy the shrimp around PJ? i just got myself a small aquascape tank.
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i'm nt frm pj
but u can buy online nowadays
it can be cheaper mostly

what is she doing ?
she seems to juggle & shake the eggs
& i saw an egg drop off
so shocked..



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