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waja2000
post Dec 18 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Dec 18 2013, 02:05 AM)
ofc made in us aew (most possibly E-2. them bloody yanks are too cheapskate to sell us E-3.... and then singapore bising lg.....)
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E-3 price around 600~700 million.... u know ...$$$
best if we can get B737 MESA, but price will be 1 unit for USD 400 million (2010). maybe now need 450 Million. i think we have no budget for that. most value/Performance is C295 Aew price expected around 200 million but too bad it used Israel Elta technology. all have 8 hours flight time.

E2D AEW also need 250 million, so next we can afford is SAAB 2000 or Bombarded R99 AEW both price around USD 100 million. all just short flight range 3+- hours.
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post Dec 18 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Dec 7 2013, 07:49 PM)
Indonesia getting pretty scary these days with their military expenditure..sukhois, leos, apaches, kilos, whats next?  sad.gif
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As per Dec 17'13,
* TNI AU received 3 new CN295 ( 5 total in current asset)
* TNI AD received 6 heli serbu Bell 412 EP (out of 24 in order)
* TNI AD will receive 16 Heli jenis Fennec in 2014
* TNI AL receive 37 unit tank BMP3F from Rusia this week
* TNI AL received KCR 40m made by Palindo Batam (4 in total so far)
* TNI AL received KCR 60m made by PT PAL
* TNI AU receive all 16 jet T50 Golden Eagle by the end of Dec
* TNI AU receive all 16 Super Tucano in less than a year from now

in 2014,
* 3 light fregat nakhoda ragam
* kapal angkut tank (LPD capable to carry leopard 2)
* kapal BCM (Bantu Cair Minyak)
* leopard 2
* Marder
* panser Anoa
* MLRS Astross
* artileri Caesar Nexter
* artileri KH179
* rudal Starstreak
* rudal Mistral
* jet tempur F16block 32/52

For MEF 2 periode 2015-2019 with estimated allocated budget for alutsista US$20 billion...
expected aditional alutsista:
* TNI AU 1 Skuadron Sukhoi Family
* 1 skuadron f16 batch2
* 1 skuadron Typhoon.
* 3-5 fregat from Rusia
* 3-5 kapal PKR10514 Sigma/2 Destroyer from netherland
* Heli Apache dan Blackhawk
* SAM (S300/400 in discussion)
* 4 Kilo, 4 Amur dan 4 Changbogo submarines

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post Dec 18 2013, 01:33 PM

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post Dec 18 2013, 01:41 PM

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Everyone got an itch with china now
Even japan just unveiled it's huge 5-year modernization plan termed "beat China by ourselves when the US abandons us” strategy

And as always our budget gets cut time and time again
Dey, when china comes knockin' those deficit can throw out the window for fark sake
TSyinchet
post Dec 18 2013, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Dec 18 2013, 01:41 PM)
Everyone got an itch with china now
Even japan just unveiled it's huge 5-year modernization plan termed "beat China by ourselves when the US abandons us” strategy

And as always our budget gets cut time and time again
Dey, when china comes knockin' those deficit can throw out the window for fark sake
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We only increase our budget slightly for esszone sake.
As for mmrca tahun depan could be good news.
Next rmk could include submarines and asw heli as well.
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post Dec 18 2013, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 18 2013, 02:27 PM)
We only increase our budget slightly for esszone sake.
As for mmrca tahun depan could be good news.
Next rmk could include submarines and asw heli as well.
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Wait.. did I heard that right? moar subs? wooaaa~ drool.gif
TSyinchet
post Dec 18 2013, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Dec 18 2013, 02:31 PM)
Wait.. did I heard that right? moar subs? wooaaa~  drool.gif
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Navy cheif seem to be asking for having 8 submarines.
which means 6moars to go but I dun think we will get it anytime soon.
what we could most likely get in rmk
10 samudera type fac.
Kedah class upgrade.
3 mpss.
8 mpa.
mmrca.
mkm batch2.
aew.
asw heli.
attack heli.

This post has been edited by yinchet: Dec 18 2013, 02:47 PM
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post Dec 18 2013, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Dec 18 2013, 02:31 PM)
Wait.. did I heard that right? moar subs? wooaaa~  drool.gif
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highly doubt we'll go for top-range stuff like scorpene if it's 8.
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post Dec 18 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 18 2013, 02:45 PM)
Navy cheif seem to be asking for having 8 submarines.
which means 6moars to go but I dun think we will get it anytime soon.
what we could most likely get in rmk
10 samudera type fac.
Kedah class upgrade.
3 mpss.
8 mpa.
mmrca.
mkm batch2.
aew.
asw heli.
attack heli.
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Wettest dream ever....

In b4 proof me wrong, in my face
kerolzarmyfanboy
post Dec 18 2013, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(gang4 @ Dec 18 2013, 12:09 PM)
As per Dec 17'13,
*  TNI AU received 3 new CN295 ( 5 total in current asset)
*  TNI AD received 6 heli serbu Bell 412 EP (out of 24 in order)
*  TNI AD will receive 16 Heli jenis Fennec in 2014
*  TNI AL receive 37 unit tank BMP3F from Rusia this week
*    TNI AL received KCR 40m made by Palindo Batam (4 in total so far)
*    TNI AL received KCR 60m made by PT PAL
* TNI AU receive all 16 jet T50 Golden Eagle by the end of Dec
* TNI AU receive all 16 Super Tucano in less than a year from now

in 2014,
* 3 light fregat nakhoda ragam
* kapal angkut tank (LPD capable to carry leopard 2)
* kapal BCM (Bantu Cair Minyak)
* leopard 2
* Marder
* panser Anoa
* MLRS Astross
* artileri Caesar Nexter
* artileri KH179
* rudal Starstreak
* rudal Mistral
* jet tempur F16block 32/52

For MEF 2 periode 2015-2019 with estimated allocated budget for alutsista US$20 billion...
expected aditional alutsista:
* TNI AU 1 Skuadron Sukhoi Family
* 1 skuadron f16 batch2
* 1 skuadron Typhoon.
* 3-5 fregat from Rusia
* 3-5 kapal PKR10514 Sigma/2 Destroyer from netherland
* Heli Apache dan Blackhawk
* SAM (S300/400 in discussion)
* 4 Kilo, 4 Amur dan 4 Changbogo submarines

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mai god...i'm scared with them now.. cry.gif

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post Dec 18 2013, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(gang4 @ Dec 18 2013, 12:09 PM)
As per Dec 17'13,
*  TNI AU received 3 new CN295 ( 5 total in current asset)
*   TNI AD received 6 heli serbu Bell 412 EP (out of 24 in order)

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Picture of the hand-over ceremony of the 3 unit CN-295, 6 unit Nbell-412 & 2 unit AS-365 (SAR Mission):

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post Dec 18 2013, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Dec 18 2013, 04:43 PM)
mai god...i'm scared with them now..  cry.gif
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Nothing to be scared of....
Indo and Malaysia have problems but they are only in the order of the nth degree. They are just b****ing one to another about cultural stuff, sports etc... Though, probably TNI will not forgive and forget about those two islands since NKRI is 'harga mati' for them...
When they feel strong enough.. retributions are possible but unlikely in the full scale war...

Why not? since 80% of the world trade cargoes pass Malaka strait...and it is FREE... The international powers at play will not allow M.strait under one country management (it would make a huge profit out of it)...Semenanjung by default would be protected... not sure about Sabah and Sarawak though...even FPDA excludes those areas what they called East Borneo...

The Perpectives would differ if China goes to war....in this case, everybody should be scared...

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post Dec 18 2013, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(kulai_busuk @ Dec 18 2013, 04:22 PM)
Wettest dream ever....

In b4 proof me wrong, in my face
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Meh I dun think its wetdream most of them are achievable and becomes top priority.
as for submarines it is more like navy top brass wetdreams.
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Taiwan’s Guardian Grounded

Taiwan has grounded its new fleet of US-made AH-64E Guardian attack helicopters for checks after a notice from Washington warning the model could malfunction.

It is just five days since Taiwan’s military displayed the new AH-64E Apache helicopters to the public in a high-profile ceremony presided over by President Ma Ying-jeou, who pledged to maintain a “solid defence force” despite warming ties with former arch-rival China.

Taiwan last month received the first six of 30 AH-64E Guardian helicopters bought from the US while the remainder will be delivered by the end of 2014.

The Taiwanese army is the first force outside the United States to introduce the E model, an extensively upgrade variant from the ever-popular AH-64D Longbow Apache. Beside Taiwan, other international operator of the Guardian variant include South Korea and Indonesia. The attack helicopter were part of a USD6.5 billion arms deal announced in 2008 that irked Beijing.

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post Dec 18 2013, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 18 2013, 12:08 PM)
E-3 price around 600~700 million.... u know ...$$$
best if we can get B737 MESA, but price will be 1 unit for USD 400 million (2010).  maybe now need 450 Million. i think we have no budget for that. most value/Performance is C295 Aew price expected around 200 million but too bad it used Israel Elta technology.  all have 8 hours flight time.

E2D AEW also need 250 million, so next we can afford is SAAB 2000 or Bombarded R99 AEW both price around USD 100 million. all just short flight range 3+- hours.
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i'd take erieye with any platform ahead of E-2. but doubt the US will let their brand new plane to be integrated with other peoples' aew. and Sweden isn't actually a NATO allies.

surely they will try to include a package under Peace.......something name.

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new frigate:check
new APC:check
complement MRCA:otw
AEW:with MRCA

now we can turn our attention to SPH and attack helos.

can we bastardize our FH-70 on handalan truck? surely it's not that hard to do.(should also turn our oto melaras into a SPH but problem is Oto melara isn't suitable for such conversion unlike longer,heavier, sturdier gun like the venerable american M101)
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17 New Boats For ESSCOM

By April 2014, ESSCOM would be receiving 17 new assault and combat boats which will be operated by the Marine Police. All of these boats are equipped with sophisticated radars to smoothen out security operations throughout Sabah’s east coast.

Out of these, five have already arrived in Lahad Datu. Each of these new boats worthed RM 1.2 million.Beside these new boats, two 26 meters patrol boats which could accommodate 10 people are also expected to be delivered next year.

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post Dec 18 2013, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(gang4 @ Dec 18 2013, 12:09 PM)
As per Dec 17'13,
*    TNI AL received KCR 60m made by PT PAL

The launching ceremony of the 1st of 3 Indonesian Navy KCR-60 of a planned of 16 unit on Wednesday December 18th, 2013.

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post Dec 18 2013, 07:32 PM

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17 new boats? good

with rumors saying that around 30 of them mundu mofos are moving from jolo to cause trouble during christmas, the news is really good to hear

hope them mundus are blasted from the sea before they have any chance to land on the shore
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Dec 18 2013, 07:32 PM)
17 new boats? good

with rumors saying that around 30 of them mundu mofos are moving from jolo to cause trouble during christmas, the news is really good to hear

hope them mundus are blasted from the sea before they have any chance to land on the shore
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More than 100 fella have been caught on recent ops to flush out undesirable elements after the rumors were were being reported.
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post Dec 18 2013, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 18 2013, 07:38 PM)
More than 100 fella have been caught on recent ops to flush out undesirable elements after the rumors were were being reported.
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...are they fully armed?

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