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post Dec 18 2013, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(cukobi @ Dec 18 2013, 08:20 PM)
...are they fully armed?
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post Dec 18 2013, 08:36 PM

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would like to know...Beriev A-50 aew...your opinion and perhaps other top grass on this aircraft.. seems like not getting any review about this..
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post Dec 18 2013, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(cukobi @ Dec 18 2013, 08:36 PM)
would like to know...Beriev A-50 aew...your opinion and perhaps other top grass on this aircraft.. seems like not getting any review about this..
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We prefer western block and without israel product in its.
so the a50 is definitely out of questions.
Erieye is favorable contender given it cost and flexibility to install on any suitable aircraft.
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post Dec 18 2013, 10:23 PM

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Finland to buy battle tanks from Netherlands

FTimes-STT Report, December 18
 
The Defence Forces are planning to make a significant arms purchase from the Netherlands in the beginning of next year, according to a report broadcast by MTV on Tuesday.
 
The report said the authorities reached a deal to buy a hundred used Leopard battle tanks at a cost of about €200m.
 
The Leopard 2A6 tanks are reported to be in good condition.
 
Finnish parliament gave go ahead to the tank purchase deal considering the benefits and cost-effectiveness.
 
Minister of Defence Carl Haglund, however, said the matter was still in progress. According to MTV reports, the deal is likely to be sealed in the next month.


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post Dec 18 2013, 10:44 PM

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does RMAF have this ability


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post Dec 18 2013, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Dec 18 2013, 10:44 PM)
does RMAF have this ability

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Yes we have.
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post Dec 19 2013, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Dec 18 2013, 03:36 PM)
highly doubt we'll go for top-range stuff like scorpene if it's 8.
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If can 2 more Scorpene 2000 with AIP system should be enough for Navy. for 6 more just dream.
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post Dec 19 2013, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 19 2013, 01:37 AM)
If can 2 more Scorpene 2000 with AIP system should be enough for Navy.  for 6 more just dream.
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becos singapore will have 6, we can only satisfied with 4 max

one must not simply exceed singapore in arms procurement

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post Dec 19 2013, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 19 2013, 01:37 AM)
If can 2 more Scorpene 2000 with AIP system should be enough for Navy.  for 6 more just dream.
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Highly doubt we can get submarines anytime soon.
mayb after sgpv project.
Though it is not wrong for navy chief to ask for more submarines. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 19 2013, 01:43 AM)
becos singapore will have 6, we can only satisfied with 4 max

one must not simply exceed singapore in arms procurement

remember that  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 19 2013, 01:48 AM)
Highly doubt we can get submarines anytime soon.
mayb after sgpv project.
Though it is not wrong for navy chief to ask for more submarines. laugh.gif
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correct,at lease 2020, after all giant project completed.
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Dec 18 2013, 02:23 AM)
thing is, the us view my/sg situation like jordan+egypt+saudi arabia/israel in the middle east

they're trying to stabilize the region by rearming it's closest ally with the best weaponry possible, while also re-arming other allies in the region. the latter won't have qualitative edge to invade the former but are adequately armed just in case shyt happens. the former are better armed qualitatively but will not have clear quantitative edge to launch strategic-scale open war against its neighbors (which are also US allies).

it's a way for the US to stabilize the region. any imbalance in term of military acquisition will definitely destabilize the whole region.

try going through jordanian military assets. they are at least 1 generation behind the israeli, yet better than anything the syrian or iraninan have at the moment. same goes with egypt. they are the strongest military power in the whole of africa

the only way to bypass this logic is by buying other countries' equipmentd. but then it will make us farther from the us. as much as we hate it we still have to rely on unker sam just in case shyt happens
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exactly

point is if they gave a bit of discount for their wares, even our army are tempted for it

but i'll bet russian will came and says no you must buy from us, it's cheap simple no complex like Murica

tight business indeed laugh.gif

QUOTE(gang4 @ Dec 18 2013, 12:09 PM)
As per Dec 17'13,
*  TNI AU received 3 new CN295 ( 5 total in current asset)
*  TNI AD received 6 heli serbu Bell 412 EP (out of 24 in order)
*  TNI AD will receive 16 Heli jenis Fennec in 2014
*  TNI AL receive 37 unit tank BMP3F from Rusia this week
*    TNI AL received KCR 40m made by Palindo Batam (4 in total so far)
*    TNI AL received KCR 60m made by PT PAL
* TNI AU receive all 16 jet T50 Golden Eagle by the end of Dec
* TNI AU receive all 16 Super Tucano in less than a year from now

in 2014,
* 3 light fregat nakhoda ragam
* kapal angkut tank (LPD capable to carry leopard 2)
* kapal BCM (Bantu Cair Minyak)
* leopard 2
* Marder
* panser Anoa
* MLRS Astross
* artileri Caesar Nexter
* artileri KH179
* rudal Starstreak
* rudal Mistral
* jet tempur F16block 32/52

For MEF 2 periode 2015-2019 with estimated allocated budget for alutsista US$20 billion...
expected aditional alutsista:
* TNI AU 1 Skuadron Sukhoi Family
* 1 skuadron f16 batch2
* 1 skuadron Typhoon.
* 3-5 fregat from Rusia
* 3-5 kapal PKR10514 Sigma/2 Destroyer from netherland
* Heli Apache dan Blackhawk
* SAM (S300/400 in discussion)
* 4 Kilo, 4 Amur dan 4 Changbogo submarines

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oh f**** F-16 32/52????

oh wait, next year procurement

still very ambitious
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 19 2013, 01:52 AM)
correct,at lease 2020, after all giant project completed.
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Anyway I'm still hopefull on some low profile procurement.
with kasturi class slep completed, we can move on to upgrading kedah class.
Additional samudera class as fac look possible as well.
Mayb 6 asw heli can be sloted in as well.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 19 2013, 01:58 AM)
Anyway I'm still hopefull on some low profile procurement.
with kasturi class slep completed, we can move on to upgrading kedah class.
Additional samudera class as fac look possible as well.
Mayb 6 asw heli can be sloted in as well.
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Kedah Class missile upgrade should be ASAP.
i still thinking 6 Aew Heli is for Gowind SGPV or not, if not We still need get 6 more for SGPV. than in total we need order 12 AEW heli. AW159 or NH9 NFH.
Also is AEW Heli is alternative solution because we can't afford MPA aircraft?

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 19 2013, 02:15 AM)
Kedah Class missile upgrade should be ASAP. 
i still thinking 6 Aew Heli is for Gowind SGPV or not, if not We still need get 6 more for SGPV. than in total we need order 12 AEW heli. AW159 or NH9 NFH.
Also is AEW Heli is alternative solution because we can't afford MPA aircraft?
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Kedah class upgrade could be undergoing after kasturi class sea trails completed early next years.
6asw/asuw were meant for gowind class.
As for mpa is not that expensive anyway. We could get in 2-3 batches. If we can't afford in large no.
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JAS-39NG wins the brazillian tender....congrats


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post Dec 19 2013, 07:38 AM

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really? source?
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Dec 19 2013, 07:29 AM)
JAS-39NG wins the brazillian tender....congrats
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Buy or lease?
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post Dec 19 2013, 07:59 AM

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buy...

http://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2013/...elo-gripen.html

can wait for SAAB to put it in their website shortly
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 19 2013, 01:43 AM)
becos singapore will have 6, we can only satisfied with 4 max

one must not simply exceed singapore in arms procurement

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but they'll retire their old challenger class once the new german subs come in

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