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post Sep 22 2013, 04:32 AM, updated 12y ago

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post Sep 22 2013, 04:49 AM

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I'm going to be very busy for the next 2 weeks.
Decide to create v10 early biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wcg6548 @ Sep 22 2013, 02:20 AM)
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What are this thing?mini submarine for "special mission" or expedition?
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Mini submarine?
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post Sep 22 2013, 04:53 AM

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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Sep 22 2013, 12:17 AM)
guna D90, pastu overheat bila dah sampai TRW. sampai ke hujung semua video aku 30 saat je :v

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post Sep 22 2013, 12:36 PM

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Indon very busy shooping for new toys.
Sg cont buying high quality toys.
Haiz so jelly with our jiran.

Our av8 yet to get new camo kesian.
Hopefully all went well in the acceptance test.

On our sgpv very senyap.
Hopefully we get essm + searams + nsm.
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post Sep 22 2013, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Sep 22 2013, 12:42 PM)
Our tanks looks inferior to those of SG & Indon's new Leopards

or does it only look older but is actually just as good?
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Imo, our tank should be quite near to t90m standard.
Have quite lots of french tech inside our tank laugh.gif
Sg and indon leos are more advance than ours.
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post Sep 23 2013, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Sep 22 2013, 01:09 PM)
From my unprofessional observation, I see that the PT91M makes alot of smoke and also has a huge external fuel tank.

That huge fuel tank stick out like a sore thumb what if a round hit it?  hmm.gif
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Dun worry it just diesel wont explode.

QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Sep 22 2013, 01:23 PM)
apehal baju baru macam bukan untuk malaysia terrain jek =,="  bnyk petak coklat
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I have yet to see how well it does in the jungle.

QUOTE(meedoot @ Sep 22 2013, 01:30 PM)
nah.. yinchet.. which one more better between indo or malaysia tanks can't be decided unless they meet at the battle, the worst enemy of tanks is another tanks (like gudderian says).. so if i may predict our country will never go into the war.. so.. let make conclusion that both tanks had the same capability..

the wheels are moving my friends.. im sure 100% in the next few years ATM will boost the power, and by that time its my turn to say "im jelly"
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Hopefully malaysia start shopping again.
We have lots of asset need to be replace.
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post Sep 25 2013, 05:29 PM

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Aduh, i didn't expect most of you don't know about t55, t62 and t72 can produce smoke screen by injecting diesel into the exhaust system.
Perhaps it is too old school? hmm.gif

Btw t72 can dig it own tranches. I can't find such picture anymore.
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post Sep 25 2013, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(bubu2010 @ Sep 25 2013, 05:34 PM)
If you guys are interested to share your knowledge with other ASEAN countries, you guys are welcome to join this group smile.gif

https://www.facebook.com/groups/aseanmilitarydiscussion/
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I dun use fb. smile.gif
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post Sep 25 2013, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(99FoxDemon @ Sep 25 2013, 05:44 PM)
maybe after they make smoke screen like this than the side effect from that is something like black oil dripping from exhaust.
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Challenger 2 able to use the method of smoke screen but they dun make such mess.
Not sure if other t72 variants and t90 having the same problem. hmm.gif

QUOTE(bubu2010 @ Sep 25 2013, 05:46 PM)
LOL, if you use facebook, it will be nice, sound is like you have the knowledge about military affairs. I need much people like you uncle smile.gif That is why I am organizing all the people from ASEAN countries to share the knowledge about military affairs and hardware. Because each person has own knowledge smile.gif
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I'm still have lots of things to learn in military.
Too bad i'm not into fb.
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post Sep 25 2013, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(gestapo @ Sep 25 2013, 06:03 PM)
are they not fitted with the ASM350 engines?
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Never heard of such engines.

QUOTE(PleaseEnterYourName @ Sep 25 2013, 06:04 PM)
told u already.. information leak...
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One of the reason y i'm not into fb.
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post Sep 25 2013, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Sep 25 2013, 06:18 PM)
The self entrenching tool is not unique to Russian tanks. NATO tanks also have them

The dozer blade is mainly used for clearing obstacles. It takes about 30 minutes for for the tank to dig a trench. Not as fast as a dedicated engineering vehicle but better than the 10 back breaking hours needed by the crew to dig
Btw,I don't see the need for digital camo on vehicles . They would be covered in mud and shit most of the time. A dark green paint scheme costs less than a three tone paint scheme
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Nato tanks rarely use it though.
Mayb just me. hmm.gif
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post Sep 26 2013, 01:22 AM

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Esm350 is a transmission.
Pzl wola s1000 is the engine for our pendekar
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post Sep 26 2013, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 26 2013, 01:39 AM)
Any internal combustion engined vehicle can also generate smoke by injecting fuel into the exhaust system.Those small airplanes that write sky messages do it all the time. Hell,you can do to your car if you want.

Anyway,no need for tanks or the crew to dig proper trenches,just pile up an earth embankment in front of the tank can also put the tank in a hull-down position and offer good defense from attack,also a trench can be hard to reverse for a tank,an earth embankment can protect the front of the tank and if in trouble,the tank can reverse easily to another position.

But I think you all got the tactics backwards,Soviet doctrine is for full armored attack with speed and maneuverability,that's why Soviet-designed tanks are smaller,lighter and ride lower,to make a small target for enemy defences. Meanwhile NATO doctrine dictates tanks must fight defensively, that's why NATO tanks are bigger and more armored for more survivability and taller so it's easier to deploy in hull-down fighting position. So NATO tanks should be the ones fighting from defensive position and Soviet tanks are the ones charging an enemy in overwhelming numbers.

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Difference in size between M1 Abrams (Blue) and T-90 (Red)
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Err did i miss something.
I did not mention tank doctrine at my post.
And yeah nato always design their tank based on defensive doctrine.
While soviet were based on attack doctrine and spamming horde of tanks. Their warsaw pact were holding the major influence on their tank design.
Not surprise they design their tank with less protection since warsaw pact is all about nuking enemy front lines. Lolz. laugh.gif

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post Sep 26 2013, 11:34 AM

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Interesting.
I think the announcement will be made nezt years.
Itu pun depend on economy
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post Sep 27 2013, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 26 2013, 06:19 PM)
hmm not sure about this....

I don't think the Soviets never had the doctrine of large-scale tactical nuclear deployment.Nearly all their nuclear assets are for long range attacks,not battlefield nuking. They rely more on a massive offensive by conventional forces. Also isn't it no-brainer that you don't nuke the place you're trying to conquer.

In my knowledge only NATO subscribed to that strategy.NATO forces would only need to defend from any forces that made it through after tactical nukes blow away any large Soviet forces coming in,all the nukes that it would take to stop the massive soviet forces with NATO's more limited numbers. If in the process Germany became a nuclear wasteland,that's too bad la  biggrin.gif
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Seem like you have not read about warsaw pact. Though only 30 documents of it have disclassified.
They have come out with a war simulation "7 days to the river of rhine"

Several kniwn nuke target would be vienna, verona, munich, stuttgart.
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post Oct 1 2013, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Sep 30 2013, 10:01 PM)
speaking about tanks, should M'sia have more budget in the future, will we buy more Pendekars or buy other tank? i don't seem to heard much news about new kind of tanks, any new tank development program you guys heard?
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Malaysia would get more new mbt in future.
However for now we are more focus on esszone.
Priority should be given in new base, mpa, attack heli, utility heli, fac and patrol vessel.

Anyway it is most likely we will be using a more capable tank. Hopefully we will get something like t90ms or type 10.
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QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 1 2013, 09:36 AM)
A member in panggilan pertiwi asked whether it is true that the Russian is lobbying again to offer the T-90 to Malaysia. Maybe he got some info source. What type he didn't mention but he posted the T-90MS picture though.
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Government unlikely to procure any mbt soon.
There were some rumors on t90 but given the current budget it will be doubtful.
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Oct 1 2013, 10:04 AM)
maybe we should go for this.
type10 is unlikely with japan's laws
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They are niw easing the laws which could allow them to export weapons.
It have been discuss in previous version.
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post Oct 1 2013, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Oct 1 2013, 10:18 AM)
And the stuff they make sure got high price tag
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Tech gooding.
Type 10 is the best among below 50 tons mbt.
Even the t90 were slightly over 50 tons.
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 1 2013, 12:37 PM)
Better consider china made MTB-3000, better than T-90s, price for T-90s now about 3.5 million for each.
and MTB-3000 weight about 51 ton， not far to Pendekar MBT
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China stuff no thank you.
Not until they able to prove themselves as an establish quality producer.
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