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post Dec 17 2013, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Dec 16 2013, 08:45 PM)
wut? mirage 2000 with F5? i thought mirage is newer than F-5E? why?  blink.gif
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well supposedly the HUErca HUErea Brasileira (Brazillian HUEr force) already have extensive mainainence infrastructure and munition for F-5Es since they've been using it since forever. similar with F-4s in turkish,japanese and south korean air force or Mig-21 in indian air force. these used F-5Es will be extensively upgraded by Embraer

besides F-5Es have lower maintainence and flight per hour cost than Mirage 2000s. the reason why taiwan and UAE are also going to ditch their Mirages
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post Dec 17 2013, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(ChaNzy @ Dec 17 2013, 01:25 AM)
japan is beefing up their forces with

17 MV-22 Osprey
52 AAV-7A1 amphibious vehicle
44 Type 10 tank
99 Maneuver Combat Vehicles

3 KC-767 or KC-46 tanker
3 Global Hawk Block 40
4 E-737 or E-2D AEW&C aircraft
10 Kawasaki C-2 transport aircraft
28 F-35A
* more F-35A to replace RF-4 reconnaissance aircraft

2 BMD Aegis Destroyer
8 Littoral Combat Ship
5 Submarine
23 Kawasaki P-1 ASW aircraft

got this from other forums. will try to look for an english link soon.
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dayummm~ these are totally not 'self-defense force' anymore tongue.gif
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post Dec 17 2013, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Dec 17 2013, 01:43 PM)
dayummm~ these are totally not 'self-defense force' anymore  tongue.gif
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In class of heavyweight, it's look normal. they used to be on par with US and russian. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 17 2013, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Dec 17 2013, 07:09 AM)
well supposedly the HUErca HUErea Brasileira (Brazillian HUEr force) already have extensive mainainence infrastructure and munition for F-5Es since they've been using it since forever. similar with F-4s in turkish,japanese and south korean air force or Mig-21 in indian air force. these used F-5Es will be extensively upgraded by Embraer

besides F-5Es have lower maintainence and flight per hour cost than Mirage 2000s. the reason why taiwan and UAE are also going to ditch their Mirages
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Is it because Dassault already reduce the support for this aircraft to concentrate on Rafale? Because if i'm not mistaken, Mirage is considered a low cost fighter.
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post Dec 17 2013, 02:41 PM

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hi guys

just wanna ask ur opinion about this news..i dun know why, but by reading this news, my sense saying that there will be an announcement on MMRCA program winner around 2015..is it still Ruskies? will we get another batch of MKMs?

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Malaysia to send second batch of astronauts to ISS by 2016

MALACCA: Malaysia is expected to send its second batch of astronauts to carry out research work aboard the International Space Station (ISS) by 2016.

Science, Technology and Innovation Deputy Minister Datuk Dr Abu Bakar Mohamad Diah said the agencies under the Ministry were working with numerous parties on the mission and direction of the programme.

"We are now studying various matters including sending two astronauts to carry out experiments that will benefit the nation on the ISS.

"All these have to be carefully looked into as the programme involves a hefty allocation and is not a space tour.

“We will submit a proposal to the Cabinet when everything is completed," he said at a press conference after opening the Science4u Carnival in Air Keroh, Wednesday.

Malaysia for the first time sent an astronaut Datuk Dr Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor to the ISS on the Soyuz TMA-11 rocket on Oct 10, 2007 in cooperation with Russia.

He carried out numerous experiments including on cancer cells and leukaemia on the space station. - Bernama

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post Dec 17 2013, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Dec 17 2013, 07:09 AM)
well supposedly the HUErca HUErea Brasileira (Brazillian HUEr force) already have extensive mainainence infrastructure and munition for F-5Es since they've been using it since forever. similar with F-4s in turkish,japanese and south korean air force or Mig-21 in indian air force. these used F-5Es will be extensively upgraded by Embraer

besides F-5Es have lower maintainence and flight per hour cost than Mirage 2000s. the reason why taiwan and UAE are also going to ditch their Mirages
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post Dec 17 2013, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Dec 17 2013, 07:09 AM)
well supposedly the HUErca HUErea Brasileira (Brazillian HUEr force) already have extensive mainainence infrastructure and munition for F-5Es since they've been using it since forever. similar with F-4s in turkish,japanese and south korean air force or Mig-21 in indian air force. these used F-5Es will be extensively upgraded by Embraer

besides F-5Es have lower maintainence and flight per hour cost than Mirage 2000s. the reason why taiwan and UAE are also going to ditch their Mirages
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Taiwan's case is cant get parts
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post Dec 17 2013, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 17 2013, 02:41 PM)
hi guys

just wanna ask ur opinion about this news..i dun know why, but by reading this news, my sense saying that there will be an announcement on MMRCA program winner around 2015..is it still Ruskies? will we get another batch of MKMs?
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2nd batch mkm is very likely.
tradein migs with discounted price for mkm still on the table.
the mmrca earliest announcement should be around june next years.

Anyway about the astronaut the government is looking into nasa as well.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 17 2013, 03:09 PM)
Anyway about the astronaut the government is looking into nasa as well.
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didn't nasa shut down all its shuttles and now the americans need to piggyback on the russian's rockets
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 17 2013, 02:41 PM)
hi guys

just wanna ask ur opinion about this news..i dun know why, but by reading this news, my sense saying that there will be an announcement on MMRCA program winner around 2015..is it still Ruskies? will we get another batch of MKMs?
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Maybe NASA. brows.gif
QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Today, 03:12 PM)
didn't nasa shut down all its shuttles and now the americans need to piggyback on the russian's rockets

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post Dec 17 2013, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 17 2013, 03:09 PM)
2nd batch mkm is very likely.
tradein migs with discounted price for mkm still on the table.
the mmrca earliest announcement should be around june next years.

Anyway about the astronaut the government is looking into nasa as well.
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owh...so that means MKMs 2nd batch on one tender & mmrca program for other tender..so by that we shud have another mkms + other mmrca plane, am i right? that will be a big sum of money but needed nonetheless


QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Dec 17 2013, 03:12 PM)
Maybe NASA.  brows.gif
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NASA eh?

so i guess SH will have its way here around after 2015 brows.gif
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post Dec 17 2013, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 17 2013, 03:18 PM)

NASA eh?

so i guess SH will have its way here around after 2015 brows.gif
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space shuttle no more. orion spacecraft (shuttle replacement) 1st flight 2020. space trip in defense procurement quite absurd. better ask something else.
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post Dec 17 2013, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 17 2013, 03:18 PM)
owh...so that means MKMs 2nd batch on one tender & mmrca program for other tender..so by that we shud have another mkms + other mmrca plane, am i right? that will be a big sum of money but needed nonetheless
NASA eh?

so i guess SH will have its way here around after 2015 brows.gif
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Yup.
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post Dec 17 2013, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 17 2013, 03:27 PM)
Yup.
usd3bil for every department mah.
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Sgpv usd3bil
no surprise if airforce get usd3bil.
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what RMAF can get with usd3bil?
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Dec 17 2013, 03:29 PM)
what RMAF can get with usd3bil?
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18 mkm @ discounted price after trade in mig -usd700mil -800mil.
18 sh + 4 aew usd2bil.
or lease gripen 18-36 gripen for 5 years + 6aew less than usd2bil.
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post Dec 17 2013, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 17 2013, 03:36 PM)
18 mkm @ discounted price after trade in mig -usd700mil -800mil.
18 sh + 4 aew usd2bil.
or lease gripen 18-36 gripen for 5 years + 6aew less than usd2bil.
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hold it

so tis means rafale & typhoon not on the table anymore?

btw, kinda sceptical with 18 sh but lets wait till 2016

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 17 2013, 03:37 PM)
hold it

so tis means rafale & typhoon not on the table anymore?

btw, kinda sceptical with 18 sh but lets wait till 2016
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yinchet are well-known SH fan laa.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 17 2013, 03:37 PM)
hold it

so tis means rafale & typhoon not on the table anymore?

btw, kinda sceptical with 18 sh but lets wait till 2016
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I am just writing what tudm able to get with usd3bil.
If government want rafale that would cost more than usd2bil
the same goes to ef.

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The czech government gripen lease deals for 10years were around usd1bil
14units.
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Dec 17 2013, 03:12 PM)
didn't nasa shut down all its shuttles and now the americans need to piggyback on the russian's rockets
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Even their Atlas rocket depend on the Russian engine. Apparently, Russian rocket engine technology is way ahead of the Americans.



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