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azriel
post Sep 22 2013, 07:39 AM

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Indonesia takes delivery of the first batch of 2 unit Leopard 2A4 & 2 unit Marder 1A3.

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post Sep 22 2013, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(aztechx @ Sep 22 2013, 01:13 PM)
also noticed some of the tanks were leaking black oil at the exhaust vents. and One of the Adnans stalled at one point. Wonder what happened to it. good thing is The sporting crowd cheered once it started going again  laugh.gif
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Yes i also noticed it from this pic.

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post Sep 22 2013, 05:31 PM

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Thai Army's T-84 Oplot-M test trials.






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post Sep 23 2013, 07:30 AM

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Indonesian Army's Leopard 2A4.



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post Sep 24 2013, 10:53 AM

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Monday, 23 September, 2013 | 15:52 WIB

The Army's New Toys Arrive 

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - Indonesian National Army had recently received a set of new defense equipment, which consists of two Leopard 2A4 main battle tanks, and two Marder medium tanks from Germany.

The Army Chief of Staff General Budiman confirmed the tanks' delivery news and said that the it arrived in Tanjung Priok, yesterday, September 22. The tanks are currently being painted and prepared to be sent for active duty.

General Budiman mentioned that the new tanks will help to reinforce the Indonesian Cavalry Division. He added that out of the total 156 tanks purchased by the army, all have been completed and have been operational.

Tempo reported that the tanks arrived sooner than the initial schedule set for October 2013. The four new tank units are a part of the US$ 280 million tank purchase agreement signed by the government last year.

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post Sep 24 2013, 03:25 PM

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US Marine Personnel Carrier - Terrex 8x8 undergone swim testing.

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post Sep 24 2013, 08:42 PM

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SKorea Rejects Boeing, Says F-15 Not Good Enough

SEOUL, South Korea September 24, 2013 (AP)
By HYUNG-JIN KIM Associated Press

South Korea on Tuesday rejected Boeing Co.'s bid to supply 60 fighter jets in the country's largest-ever weapons purchase even though it was the sole remaining bidder, and said it would reopen the tender.

Boeing had offered its F-15 Silent Eagle, but South Korean critics have said the warplane lacks state-of-the-art stealth capabilities and cannot effectively cope with North Korea's increasing nuclear threats.

Defense Ministry spokesman Kim Min-seok said officials decided at a meeting Tuesday to delay naming a winning bidder for the 8.3 trillion won ($7.7 billion) purchase, and would restart the bidding process at an early date.

He said South Korea must have better air power in line with an international trend to develop "fifth generation" fighters, and said the rejection of Boeing's bid was made in consideration of North Korea's nuclear weapons program and other factors. Ministry officials said he was referring to a warplane with cutting-edge radar-evading stealth functions which Boeing's plane does not have.

Boeing said in a statement that it was "deeply disappointed" by Tuesday's decision, adding it "rigorously" followed the South Korean arms procurement agency's instructions throughout the entire process.

Lockheed Martin's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and EADS' Eurofighter Typhoon earlier competed in the bidding process but were eliminated for exceeding Seoul's budget cap.

The F-35 jet, which has been plagued by schedule delays and cost overruns, is widely regarded as a much more advanced and capable aircraft than its predecessors.

Japan announced in 2011 that it would buy 42 F-35 jets in a deal expected to cost more than $5 billion. Japan hopes to receive its first F-35s in 2016, at a cost of about $120 million per plane. But last year it threatened to cancel the multibillion-dollar deal if prices continue to rise or delays threaten the delivery date.

South Korea has traditionally favored importing fighter jets and other weapons from the U.S., which stations 28,500 troops in the country as deterrence against potential aggression from North Korea.

This spring, tensions on the Korean peninsula rose sharply, with Pyongyang threatening nuclear wars to protest toughened U.N. sanctions after its third nuclear test in February. The U.S. took the unusual step of sending its most powerful warplanes — B-2 stealth bombers, F-22 stealth fighters and B-52 bombers — to drills with South Korea in a show of force. B-2 and B-52 bombers are capable of delivering nuclear weapons.

In recent days, South Korean media, retired generals and weapons experts had pressed the government not to pick the F-15 Silent Eagle, arguing better stealth capabilities were needed.

"Only with stealth capabilities can (warplanes) covertly infiltrate North Korea and get rid of its nuclear threats," a group of 15 former air force chiefs of staff said in a recent letter addressed to President Park Geun-hye.

The rivals Koreas have hundreds of thousands of combat-ready troops along a heavily armed border as the 1950-53 Korean War ended in a truce, not a peace treaty. North Korea's air force is relatively old and ill-prepared, but has a large number of aircraft that could be a factor if a conflict were to break out.


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post Sep 24 2013, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(47100 @ Sep 24 2013, 08:54 PM)
may enlighten me what are the cylinders mounted on the turrent? flares? smokes? icon_question.gif
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Smoke grenades. Same as this "Decepticon" Leopard 2A4. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 25 2013, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 22 2013, 02:26 PM)
looks like normal fumes to me
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I'm no expert in engines but i don't think it's normal if a liquid black oil fluid leaking from an exhaust. If the area around the exhaust is blackened caused by fumes & smokes from the diesel then it's normal. The exhaust looks like it's dripping liquid black oil fluids. Maybe i'm wrong though.

Another picture from V9 thread posted by Tiger I.

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post Sep 25 2013, 11:32 AM

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The Singapore Army and Australian Defence Force (ADF) recently conducted a bilateral armour exercise, codenamed Matilda, at the Mount Bundey Training Area in Darwin, Australia. About 100 personnel from the 48th Battalion, Singapore Armoured Regiment (48 SAR) and their Leopard 2SG Main Battle Tanks (MBTs) were involved in the training with their ADF counterparts from the 1st Armoured Regiment.


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post Sep 25 2013, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Sep 25 2013, 11:36 AM)
i always wondered what that big round cylinder thing at the back is.
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Extra fuel tank. Common feature in the T-series tank. The Challenger 2 also uses extra fuel tank.

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post Sep 25 2013, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(aztechx @ Sep 25 2013, 02:10 PM)
From another pt-91, showing less significant drips
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This one looks like the dripping been wiped clean but u still can see the grease stain though.

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post Sep 26 2013, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 25 2013, 05:29 PM)
Aduh, i didn't expect most of you don't know about t55, t62 and t72 can produce smoke screen by injecting diesel into the exhaust system.
Perhaps it is too old school? hmm.gif

Btw t72 can dig it own tranches. I can't find such picture anymore.
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Thank you. That explains it.

QUOTE(aztechx @ Sep 25 2013, 02:33 PM)
Klu tgk asap cmni,Engine oil bako kot.ke normal?.aku pon x pandai sgt tanks2 ni..

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First i thought it was the engine start-up. As explained it was obviously a smoke screen. But why would the tank create a smoke screen in a parade and in front of a crowd where there is a lot of families with their small children watching meters away? Isn't the smoke hazardous?

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post Sep 26 2013, 04:31 PM

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T-72 "TUSK" - Tank Urban Survivability Kit.

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post Sep 27 2013, 11:11 AM

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Indonesia Security Preparation to Host APEC CEO Summit.

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Indonesian special navy forces personnel stand to attention during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.


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Indonesian soldiers look on during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.


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Indonesian soldiers look on during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.


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Indonesian soldiers prepare weapons during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.


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Indonesian military personnel march during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.


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post Sep 27 2013, 02:43 PM

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T-72 "TUSK" - Tank Urban Survivability Kit.

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post Sep 29 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(ikmal2129 @ Sep 28 2013, 11:17 PM)
i thought indonesia leopard similar to sg leopard, but its not,

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sg leopard look more compact and sexy to.me

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What you are referring is the first batch of Leopard 2A4 delivery. Indonesia ordered a total of 103 Leo 2 + 10 Supporting Vehicles (ARV & Bridge Layer). 61 units are the Rheinmetall MBT Revolution (designated as the Leopard 2RI) and the rest are the refurbished Leo 2A4. The Leo 2RI will be the last batches to be delivered as it needed major upgrade from the Leo 2A4 into the MBT Revolution by Rheinmetall.

The Leo 2RI is quite similar to the Leo 2SG. Rheinmetall displayed the MBT Revolution during Indo Defence Expo 2012 shown from this pic below:

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Singapore operates a combination of Leo 2SG & Leo 2A4.

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Sep 28 2013, 11:41 PM)
IIANM on the 2sg the main gun also changed to newer type
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IINM The Leo 2SG still uses the L44 main gun. The L55 has longer barrel than the L44.
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post Sep 30 2013, 02:13 PM

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After Airbus A400M, Europe faces dearth of big defence projects

By Tim Hepher and Brenda Goh

PARIS/LONDON, Sept 30 | Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:02pm EDT

(Reuters) - European politicians will toast the long-awaited Airbus A400M military transport plane at a ceremony in Spain on Monday, but face warnings that Europe's largest-ever collaborative defence project may be its last for years to come.

After a tortuous 30 years in development, the first of 170 troop and cargo planes ordered by seven nations grants Europe a step towards independence in military transport, a key plank of foreign intervention capability.

The ceremony in Seville, where the planes are assembled, will also kickstart an A400M export campaign, a glimmer of hope to a European aircraft whose foreign sales have been dogged by costly problems with its huge turbo-prop engines and a four-year delivery delay.

Still, the aircraft's manufacturer has questioned how a continent pulled apart by weak finances and policy rifts will address future conflicts like Syria, Libya or Mali - and in turn how readily nations will co-operate on large defence procurements.

"I think we are further away from a common foreign and security policy than at any point in the last 20 years. I do not believe we will see a meaningful (one) in the next 20 years," Tom Enders, chief executive of Airbus parent EADS, said last week in a speech on transatlantic security.

"I do not assume in my strategic planning that in the next 10 to 15 years there will be any new major European projects in our sphere of activity. I see governments are even trying to cut or reduce projects that previously been agreed," Enders said.

The A400M was designed to meet a shortfall in military transport capacity among seven NATO nations: Belgium, Britain, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Spain and Turkey.

But the 20 billion euro project went more than 5 billion euros over budget, forcing buyer nations to agree a 3.5 billion euro bailout in 2010, part of which is supposed to be repaid from export royalties.

Many analysts say the region's financial crisis has exacerbated divisions and dampened interest in projects that have a habit of running heavily over-budget.

"We will go through a phase now where there is not only little collaboration but also little investment in new products," said independent defence analyst Howard Wheeldon.

A recent decision to halt production of the Boeing C-17 strategic jet-powered transporter, a rival to the A400M, breathed life into hopes for new export orders for the plane.

Until now, the only export customer is Malaysia, with four planes on order. South Africa cancelled an order.

Airbus sees a market for several hundred aircraft. But the company has expressed concerns about plans by some of the plane's European customers to sell A400Ms they have ordered directly on to customers outside the region, frustrating Airbus hopes for producing extra planes.

Germany, Spain and most probably France, analysts say, want to jump in front of Airbus and export some of their domestic allocations directly to boost budgets.

That also poses technical difficulties over export royalties. According to two people familiar with the 2010 bailout plan, the first 174 planes (including Malaysia's four) are excluded from the royalty agreement.

Enders told Reuters that such export plans were "understandable" in the weak fiscal climate, but added: "As an industrialist, I cannot be very happy about this approach and I have to ensure we are not leaking value".


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