Our new Defence MInister alongside PM

Trucks of soldiers from the Kenya Defense Forces arrive after dawn outside the Westgate Mall in Nairobi, Kenya Sunday, Sept. 22, 2013


That is one nice rifle

I'm no expert in engines but i don't think it's normal if a liquid black oil fluid leaking from an exhaust. If the area around the exhaust is blackened cause by fumes & smokes from the diesel then it's normal. The exhaust looks like it's dripping liquid black oil fluids. Maybe i'm wrong though.

Another picture from V9 thread posted by Tiger I.

Klu tgk asap cmni,Engine oil bako kot.ke normal?.aku pon x pandai sgt tanks2 ni..

Any internal combustion engined vehicle can also generate smoke by injecting fuel into the exhaust system.Those small airplanes that write sky messages do it all the time. Hell,you can do to your car if you want.

Anyway,no need for tanks or the crew to dig proper trenches,just pile up an earth embankment in front of the tank can also put the tank in a hull-down position and offer good defense from attack,also a trench can be hard to reverse for a tank,an earth embankment can protect the front of the tank and if in trouble,the tank can reverse easily to another position.

But I think you all got the tactics backwards,Soviet doctrine is for full armored attack with speed and maneuverability,that's why Soviet-designed tanks are smaller,lighter and ride lower,to make a small target for enemy defences. Meanwhile NATO doctrine dictates tanks must fight defensively, that's why NATO tanks are bigger and more armored for more survivability and taller so it's easier to deploy in hull-down fighting position. So NATO tanks should be the ones fighting from defensive position and Soviet tanks are the ones charging an enemy in overwhelming numbers.


M2 Bradley hull-down position behind an earthen embankment


Difference in size between M1 Abrams (Blue) and T-90 (Red)

T-72 "TUSK" - Tank Urban Survivability Kit.

i thought indonesia leopard similar to sg leopard, but its not,

sg leopard look more compact and sexy to.me

oh, thanks for explanation

maybe we'll consider other,more capable MBTs. the purpose of pendekar is for us to develop our own tank doctrine.

streamlining logistic supply chain? to hell with it. tell that to RMAF

Anyway it is most likely we will be using a more capable tank. Hopefully we will get something like t90ms or type 10.

I'm not really into leo2 due to its wieght ~60tons
It is better we stick with below 50ton requirement.
Type10 is my fav as it was the lightest and most advance below 50 tons class.
Still available for order.
They even offer it to us.

We also did the same thing with Pendekar.

pride is one of the reason. did they do through field testing to determine leo2 suitablility in indon terrain? i think they decided on buying leo2 quite fast.

let them parade their Leos, also for national pride wat, same as we keep on parading the AV8 prototype..

that is one sexy gun~~ PRC getting increasingly better in firearms development dun u guys think? still, it looks heavy though..