Chinese firm wins Turkey's missile defense system tender

ISTANBUL | Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:23pm EDT
(Reuters) - Turkey on Thursday chose a Chinese defense firm CPMIEC to co-produce a $4 billion long-range air and missile defense system, rejecting rival bids from Russian, U.S. and European firms.

The Turkish defense minister announced the decision in a statement.

Turkey, which is a member of the NATO military alliance, has no long-range missile defense system of its own, but NATO has deployed the U.S.-built Patriot air and missile defense system there since 2012.

The winning Chinese FD-2000 system beat out the U.S. Patriot, Russian S-400, and French-Italian Eurosam Samp-T to win the contract.

Raytheon Co (RTN.N), which builds the Patriot missile system, said it had been informed about the Turkish decision and hoped to get a briefing soon. It said there were 200 Patriot units deployed in 12 countries, including Turkey.

"NATO has long supported the system, deploying Patriot in five aligned countries and, in 2012, providing a requested Patriot deployment to Turkey. Given this strong performance, we hope to have an opportunity to debrief and learn more about this decision," Raytheon spokesman Mike Doble said.

Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz's statement also said a contract to produce six corvette ships by Koc Holding (KCHOL.IS), Turkey's biggest conglomerate, had been cancelled.

A contract to build two ships would be awarded to the Turkish naval shipyard. The construction of four remaining ships will be put out to tender later, Yilmaz said.

Koc Holding was recently accused of backing the 1997 military overthrow of Turkey's first Islamist-led government, sending the firm's shares tumbling on fears of a deepening vendetta against the country's secular business elite.

The Turkish government launched a probe into the taxes of Koc energy firms in July, weeks after criticizing one of the family's hotels for sheltering protesters during anti-government unrest that rocked several cities over the summer.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/26/...E98P19S20130926


note： china firm win tender with USD 3.0 Billion.

Better consider china made MTB-3000, better than T-90s, price for T-90s now about 3.5 million for each.
and MTB-3000 weight about 51 ton， not far to Pendekar MBT

our country also buying china FN6....
china already top five Arm exporter ....
soon more and more country will buying china arm.

Report: Military Lost Control of F-35 Contractors, Errors Abound

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/report-milit...ory?id=20422344

Internet already have alot info for MBT-3000 ...... going to market on 2014 ....

yeap， budget no issue for Indo DoD.....
event in 2017/2018 there GDP more than enough to buy alot military jet.

what he said
just about 700~1200tons

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 22 2013, 10:30 PM

not sure your can read chinese or not, from chinapress, Army interested on LY-80

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 23 2013, 05:37 PM

i think small version makassar lpd

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 23 2013, 07:36 PM

think too much ..... our Mindef can't afford S-300 ... long range defense missile
some china stuff Value for money.... just like army buying FN-6
Just like in Turkey HQ-Q(FD-2000) more cheaper and more advance than S-300 and get some TOT from china....
Singapore already buying Aster 30.. SAM system
back to LY-80 just middle range defense Missile 50km range, just suitable for now for our defense missile and TOT more suitable to capability of local defense company。

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 24 2013, 12:05 AM

news from france... 3/oct

(using google translate)
http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-financ...le-de-mbda.html

Defence: three new export contracts into the hands of MBDA

MBDA wins in Malaysia and ... Vietnam

MBDA is waiting for a notification (LOA or Letter of Approval) a contract for the installation of missile on the six corvettes Gowind, whose design was sold by DCNS kind . The amount of the order is valued at just under 100 million euros. But who says shooting facilities said future orders missiles. MBDA and should sell surface-to-air missiles VL Mica, and anti-ship Exocet block 3. The future control is estimated between 300 and 400 million euros. A beautiful victory over U.S. rivalRaytheon who presented the ESSM (Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile).

Reportedly, MBDA will also equip them with the VL Mica and Exocet two corvettes Dutch shipyard Damen purchased by Vietnam (+ two optional). A new very nice shot for MBDA.

In addition to these three contracts, MBDA never announces the signing of the export contracts due to the discretion of the customer, was up, according to La Tribune, some nice contracts, which will join the orders of 2013 . And maybe even surpassed the record in 2012 (1.5 billion euros) . Especially if the missile is able to finally get one of mégacontrats on which it competes, including through combat aircraft (including Rafale, Eurofighter and Gripen but even Tornado).

VL-MICA win..... ？
sad news if true .....

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 27 2013, 09:45 PM

500 million ship for 3000 tons is very expensive.....
some big amount is pay for TOT and IP licensing....

some big amount is pay for TOT and Intellectual Property（IP) licensing for local production. (some military expert said)


This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 27 2013, 10:03 PM

Our SGPV Gowind using Thales SMART-S Mk2 3D radar only support VL-Mica or ESSM, Aster 15/30 is support on Thales Herakles 3D radar which used in Singapore Formidable class and France FREMM Frigates. so only VL-Mica or ESSM in this option. SMART-S Mk2 3D no support Aster 15/30.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 28 2013, 10:08 AM

also Indonesian Sigma PKR 10514 2400tons with Vl_mica + Exocet 40 B3 more cheaper, about usd 240 million each unit ... although some news said it built not in military body spec. i find if gowind price usd 350 million with vl-mica+Exocet B3

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 28 2013, 10:31 AM

abit old news ... no harm to read it.

DCNS launches program corvettes Malaysian
18/04/2013

As part of the order by Malaysia six corvettes type Gowind Combat DCNS Lorient hosts the last few days, thirty Malaysian engineers. Like the program submarines sold in Brazil, where DCNS in France ensured the training of 200 engineers and technicians Brazilian (including a design school submarines Lorient), the reception of Malaysians between through the transfer of technology related to Malaysia Gowind program. Future buildings will, in fact, made locally as the prime contractor for the project Boustead Naval Shipyard (BNS). For future buildings, Malaysia has used as the basis design Gowind Combat, developed by DCNS to offer export a corvette made to military standards (unlike the type Gowind offshore patrol vessels OPV built to civilian standards) and heavily armed . This design will be adapted to the needs of Malaysia. Hence the presence in France of engineers in this country, who will participate soon, with teams DCNS design work corvettes. "The arrival of Malaysian engineers Lorient marks the start of a milestone. After two months of training, the Malaysian engineers integrate engineering DCNS teams to participate in Lorient, in tandem with the French engineers, design work on their ships, "says Benedict Chapalain Gowind Malaysia program director at DCNS.


Bring the French expertise in the design and construction


Under the contract signed in 2012, the French group with NBS provides assistance in the design and construction of the ship, as well as assistance in project management. DCNS said that the training is provided by Malaysian engineers and technicians group, trainers DCNS Universeaty its new transmission structure and internal skills to its customers. "The group brings to Malaysia as a recognized technical expertise in the field of engineering than shipbuilding. In addition, training is adapted to the cultural specificities of the country. "
Meanwhile, a dozen executives of DCNS are now stationed in Malaysia. They provide assistance mission management program with NBS. With the rise of the program, a group of sixty employees will be present in Malaysia, located between Kuala Lumpur Lumut, about 200 kilometers north of the capital, where the site is located in which will be built six corvettes Gowind by the end of the decade.

(google translate)
http://www.meretmarine.com/fr/content/dcns...es-malaisiennes

most of weapons already fix... hard to change.... just sad for our navy

who have there contact please help notice them...

Indonesian Sigma PKR 10514 also using Smart-S Mk2 3D radar， so can forget to using Aster15.....

http://arc.web.id/berita/49-tni-al/539-vl-...tuk-tni-al.html

that mica price you list is mica AAM version， not VL-Mica....
any link can provide price is more than euro 1.2m per-missile？