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gang4
post Dec 18 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Dec 7 2013, 07:49 PM)
Indonesia getting pretty scary these days with their military expenditure..sukhois, leos, apaches, kilos, whats next?  sad.gif
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As per Dec 17'13,
* TNI AU received 3 new CN295 ( 5 total in current asset)
* TNI AD received 6 heli serbu Bell 412 EP (out of 24 in order)
* TNI AD will receive 16 Heli jenis Fennec in 2014
* TNI AL receive 37 unit tank BMP3F from Rusia this week
* TNI AL received KCR 40m made by Palindo Batam (4 in total so far)
* TNI AL received KCR 60m made by PT PAL
* TNI AU receive all 16 jet T50 Golden Eagle by the end of Dec
* TNI AU receive all 16 Super Tucano in less than a year from now

in 2014,
* 3 light fregat nakhoda ragam
* kapal angkut tank (LPD capable to carry leopard 2)
* kapal BCM (Bantu Cair Minyak)
* leopard 2
* Marder
* panser Anoa
* MLRS Astross
* artileri Caesar Nexter
* artileri KH179
* rudal Starstreak
* rudal Mistral
* jet tempur F16block 32/52

For MEF 2 periode 2015-2019 with estimated allocated budget for alutsista US$20 billion...
expected aditional alutsista:
* TNI AU 1 Skuadron Sukhoi Family
* 1 skuadron f16 batch2
* 1 skuadron Typhoon.
* 3-5 fregat from Rusia
* 3-5 kapal PKR10514 Sigma/2 Destroyer from netherland
* Heli Apache dan Blackhawk
* SAM (S300/400 in discussion)
* 4 Kilo, 4 Amur dan 4 Changbogo submarines

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gang4
post Dec 18 2013, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Dec 18 2013, 04:43 PM)
mai god...i'm scared with them now..  cry.gif
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Nothing to be scared of....
Indo and Malaysia have problems but they are only in the order of the nth degree. They are just b****ing one to another about cultural stuff, sports etc... Though, probably TNI will not forgive and forget about those two islands since NKRI is 'harga mati' for them...
When they feel strong enough.. retributions are possible but unlikely in the full scale war...

Why not? since 80% of the world trade cargoes pass Malaka strait...and it is FREE... The international powers at play will not allow M.strait under one country management (it would make a huge profit out of it)...Semenanjung by default would be protected... not sure about Sabah and Sarawak though...even FPDA excludes those areas what they called East Borneo...

The Perpectives would differ if China goes to war....in this case, everybody should be scared...

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post Dec 30 2013, 01:01 PM

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2014 TNI Q1!

January, Kasal (Navy Chief) will visit Rusia to negotiate for Kilo, amur, and talwar/Strereguschy

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February,Kasad (Army Chief) to hit Germany to negotiate 300 leopard upgradable to Revolution and to stop over in Netherland for CV-90 dan PZH-2000

Febuary/March Kasau(AF Chief) will negotiate for SU35 in Rusia

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Last minute decision....Gripen NG confirmed is the replacement of TNI's F5
44 units...free 10 units early used borrowed from Swedish AF
included in the deal Erieye AEW, 8 unit, and system integration with ground radar network
delivery batch 1 early 2015...takes time to customize specs to be able to carry russian's pencils...

It is an offer difficult to refuse...
* TOT for all native parts
* Sharing critical source code for avionics integrator...internal system inside Gripen, as well as integration with the external system
* full assistance to develop integrated national air defense network.
* Advisory team for IFX, free of charge...and a lot more...


gang4
post Dec 30 2013, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(lulz @ Dec 30 2013, 01:13 PM)
Source is blog?
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It should not.
Well, military news is a controlled environment...need to know basis...
For going-to-happen type of news...hard to find or impossible to find in the legitimate news anywhere...

The source of this type of news would be a low/middle type of people who got involve in the process and can not resist to mouth in the internet....the credibility of the persons would play a role...if many times he/she breaks the news TNI would have apache, leopard etc before anyone knows...and it did happen...it is hard to dismiss him/her as unreliable source....

But you are right...should put a disclaimer the previous post as kinda ripley thing.....believe it or not...
do not know how to delete a post...moderator pls delete the previous post if you will...
sorry about that...


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post Dec 30 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Dec 30 2013, 02:55 PM)
The news that can be confirmed are the Kilo Submarines and the Su-35.
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a tweet from...

Sweden in Indonesia ‏@SwedenJakarta 19 Dec

@Saab are doing well... not only in Indonesia! RT @Saab: "The Brazilian Government Selects Gripen" http://bit.ly/1cc8FaY #Gripen #Saab


Saab doing well NOT ONLY in Indonesia...???
"not only" usually follows by "but also"....the brazilian gov selects Gripen..

It is not a confirmation...found it quite interesting...

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gang4
post Dec 31 2013, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Dec 30 2013, 06:25 PM)
Could be. Interesting.  hmm.gif
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Indeed...
Forget to mention...the header says:

Sweden in Indonesia
@SwedenJakarta
Tweets by Ambassador Ewa Polano, Deputy Head of Mission Daniel Johansson and other embassy colleagues.
Jakarta, Indonesia · swedenabroad.com/jakarta

who is Ewa Polano?
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She will serve as Sweden's new Ambassador in Jakarta
The Government decided on Wednesday the 19th to appoint Ewa Polano as Sweden's Ambassador in Indonesia. Ms Polano's previous posts include that of Ambassador in Mexico.

It was a tweet from key players in swedish embassy..rather than a tweet from a drunk textorian from textorville...


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