maybe we should JV with the poles on this

Hell yeah.
PL-01 is so sexy as always.

Look at ours youngster or our politician.

but they're not soldiers

is it me, or it there just too much brown and dark color on the ATM camo?
they kinda stick out too much.

Soldiers or not we are not any better.
Look at our politician laughing at soldier.

Dun worry too much, the camo works well in shaded and undergrowth area which they mostly operate on, secondary and virgin forest
While the more bright sg camo works well in more open areas

If it were me I dun wanna be caught in a firefight on an open field

previous camo works well in plantation areas (with large "zebra strips" because of the nature of the plantations' shadow perspective, but not really good in rice field or secondary forest

rainforest? you could wear pink pony suit and people still can't see you unless they're like, 5 yards in front of you

We do need to get some urban camo.
I dun see any of that design yet

steam bomb also will work.

With the new camo you can get really close "predator" style

Btw, can someone upload mmp latest blog pics on mrca's operation cost comparison chart? great info there

i dont really think urban camo is necessary

paling berbaloi untuk duit yang bakal dibelanjakan untuk projek MMRCA...
saya nak minta TUDM minta pada PM Najib angkat GROWLER, bom dia gempak bro.. pada kos yang efektif, setaraf dengan bom yang digunapakai oleh F-35 dan F-22 ... cepat panggil Presiden USA, Barack Obama turun Malaysia minta discount kaw-kaw punya, minta satu set dengan sistem AEW&C dan program angkasalepas NASA macam kita pernah minta dulu daripada Russia!!

We should since we have a huge urban areas.
we are in the process of improving urban warfare after all.

urban camo hard to design.

besides IDF been kicking ass in urban combat for years in their plain old fatigues.

camouflage works much better than a solid color, but nothing works well while moving,and during MOUT/FIBUA expect the grunts to move alot

It works for Israel because they're constantly in a MOUT/Mechanized situation where camouflage doesn't really matter. What are you going to notice first, the guy in olive drab uniform, or the big motherfυcking tank he's next to?

i'm more aligned on multicam as urban combat camo. that or USAF tigerstripe camo, but when moving, it is just as good as penjara's camo or PGA's camo or rela's blue camo or even the plain "pakaian seragam nombor 4" that was worn until quite recently

y no one want Mig-35?

not finish development right? i think that why no want wanted it yet further not having future chateristic of current development fighter aircraft like f35 or advance super hornet which have capabilty like stealth

cuba tanya yinchet, dia yang mula-mula kata minta Malaysia angkat superhornet.. aku baca banyak gak pasal development dia,
dari segi teknologi, mungkin rafale lebih bagus tapi disebabkan malaysia semua benda pun nak save je.. jadi superhornet dan growler paling cost effective untuk negara kecil macam kita ni.. kalau kita angkat saab punya gripen, takut lawan musuh dahsyat2 'bateri dia kong pula'.. radius of operation dia paling kecil antara semua yang bertanding tender MMRCA tu