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hafizushi
post Oct 28 2013, 11:09 PM

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since aku pun baru dlm thread nie, selama nih silent reader

tapi aku taknak kutuk dulu so ni aku jumpa pasal equipment LCS

http://securemalaysia.blogspot.com/

credit: mumuchi blog


from it look like weapon not yet finalized, no statement yet go out to bursa
hafizushi
post Oct 29 2013, 03:46 PM

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hi military bros, can someone list down RMN spec request for radar system and armament on the SGPV program?

i want to check if there any changes to the radar system we got, while the armament i know not yet finalized except for the ds30m

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post Oct 29 2013, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 29 2013, 05:32 PM)
Radar pretty much the same. Smart s mk2
Eo tracking and fcs were expected to be tmeo/x
Main cannon not sure.
Asm navy want nsm.
Sam navy want essm.
For ciws not sure what the wish list.
Sonar not sure what is the navy wish list.
Torp most likely b515 whitehead.
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ok thanks, btw one more thing i found out the navy want TACTICOS combat system instead of SETIS
hafizushi
post Oct 30 2013, 12:06 PM

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this sgpv program i think is more crucial than the mrca, when come to think we are lacking in terms of quantity and ability with our most advance frgate only able to engage surface target approximately 72km and air target for abot 15km plus the lacking weaponary on board on the ngpv kedah class

for the airforce we have about 18 su30 mkm, 10 mig 29n, 8 f18 d where a total 36 modern aircraft not include the bae hawk and f5 tiger. While SU30 mkm are consider as one the best fighter jet around with i seriously doubt that any contender in mrca the like f18 super hornet, typhoon, rafale or gripen are superior than flanker in a dogfight unless the been given to the role anti-ship or ground attack. But the SU 30mkm and f18d have been equip anti-ship capable engaging target 50-70km away. Is essential for the sgpv to be able to engage air target 50 km away since all modern aircratf nowaday hv the ability to fire long range missile
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post Oct 30 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 30 2013, 01:07 PM)
perghh CIWS is a serious biznes yo!
kat mymil tgh dok hangat nih!
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tbf vl mica or aster or any anti air missile is able to engage incoming missile and bofors 57 also can engage incoming missile but need to use different ammo

but still i agree with yinchet we does need a proper ciws like searam

my opinion ds30 are been using to engage small boat not as ciws which for me not necessary since it defeat the purpose as being the ship of size 3000 tons we might as well just go for fast boat if to counter small boat. Ship like ngpv and sgpv shud only provide surveillance eventhough sgpv can fire missile to small boat and use their bofors
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post Oct 30 2013, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 30 2013, 01:27 PM)
ithink both also importance, 10 MIG going to retirement in 2015. bae hawk mostly on training. so we depend 18 Su-30mkm and 8 F18 from 2015, this is increase Utilization of Su-30mkm and f-18. we need of about 36~48 aircraft for airforce.

if Gowind & Kedah class  use ESSM, all issue solved.
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both are important, in term of capability i think the airforce are up to date just lacking quantity.

i think for mrca we shud wait for su 35 or check on it simply because its cheaper then all the mrca contender except gripen and more advance
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post Oct 30 2013, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Oct 30 2013, 03:30 PM)
the job of most shipborne SAM is more to shoot down incoming missile then to engage enemy aircraft. With the profileration of the stand off weapons in the market, the launching aircraft can stay well outside the envelope of most of the long and medium range SAM operational today.
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then its understandable if we choose mica. Maybe people expect more since the price of single frigate quite high

then this role engaging enemy aircraft are solely the airforce which why mrca come to mind. Now i understand haha
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post Oct 30 2013, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 30 2013, 04:57 PM)
but Smart-s 3D radar not Support Aster....
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its either essm or mica right? correct me if i wrong

hafizushi
post Oct 30 2013, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Oct 30 2013, 11:17 PM)
U.S. Fighter Aircraft Pricing Themselves Out of the Export Market

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Any comments on this matter?  hmm.gif
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i would love for us to take a look at su35, the western aircraft indeed exprnsive especially from europe.


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post Oct 31 2013, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Oct 31 2013, 12:52 PM)
China, Malaysia To Hold Joint Military Drills
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The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS George Washington (CVN 73), top, is seen underway with the Royal Malaysian
Navy frigates RMN Jebat (FF 29) and RMN Lekiu (FF 30) during a transit of the Andaman Sea in 2012.

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Ini jenis salam depan, belakang ada simpan pisau ke  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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is it china want to gain an allies in SEA? since they cannot afford to fight all SEA nation altogether.

vietnam, phillipines, indo all hv some argument with them while the singapore are US close allied in SEA

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post Oct 31 2013, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 31 2013, 03:55 PM)
So from what i heard,
The navy could streamline most of its SAMs to vls-mica m.
Lekiu class, kedah class could be using mica in the future.
I think ma have write about mica b4.
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some info regarding VL mica m

http://www.mbda-systems.com/e-catalogue/#/.../46/performance
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post Nov 2 2013, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Nov 1 2013, 10:55 PM)
Choose aster15/30 will be cheaper.
Or we can go for searams + mica/essm.
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searams + essm + nsm would be the best combo for me
or mica + nsm also good

nsm with with stealth missile is very suitable for our sgpv design since its contain stealth element while still maintaining the effective range of 200km the same range as the exocet block 3

i have little doubt about essm since its a guided missile unlike mica its a fire and forget type of missile but it does hv awesome range of 50km and speed of mach 4+ unlike mica mach 3
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post Nov 4 2013, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Nov 3 2013, 07:42 PM)
Eks Bersama Padu 2010
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in this picture, what weapon msian soldier carried? is it LMG type?

This post has been edited by hafizushi: Nov 4 2013, 11:27 AM
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post Nov 19 2013, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Nov 19 2013, 02:09 PM)
Kalau saya menhan
semua rafale fans sedih.
goodbye rafale and helo sh. tongue.gif
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after series of checking i started to like the gripen NG out of other contender in mrca, simply because its the cheapest while still have high capability as their counterpart.

maybe we can bundled 24 instead of 18 aircraft plus get aew erieye that on airforce wanted list but this only good choice if we being offer the NG variant

f18 good choice too, even better if we can get the advance variant

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post Nov 20 2013, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 20 2013, 07:24 AM)
Their offer the last time is still no AESA radar only with 4 E2D
Our hornet is going to be schedule an upgrade process in the US soon
we'll see if our hornet going to have AESA by then or not
Advance Super Hornet, with no weapon restriction, then Hell Yeah!
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yeah advance super hornet!!
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post Nov 21 2013, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Nov 21 2013, 09:14 AM)
To gripen lover rejoice,
What saab have offer to use possible lease gripen lease deals.
they also offer us saab2000 aew and saab2000mpa
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gripen ng definitely a good aircraft but when i further check its seem not that really cheap compare to sh or rafale

and boeing top mgmt last time said they willing to offer advance super hornet which superior i think than the gripen ng

with cft, enhance engine and some stealth feature advance sh look prmising but only doubt are the price and radar they willing to offer

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post Nov 22 2013, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Nov 22 2013, 09:31 AM)
If Malaysia decide to buy and not lease the Gripen i'm not quite sure there will be no interference from US side if particularly a US firm loses in a bid competition. The RTA experienced that with their last batch of Gripen.
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huh that dangerous, we might end up with a lot of problem

i guess each choices also have some risk, price risk, spec risk

but seriously US, behaving like that doh.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 22 2013, 03:34 PM)
Swiss Battle Could Be Euro-Canard Turning Point

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/dub...d-turning-point
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from what i understand it put like this

rafale > eurofighter > gripen C/D


swiss in the end choose gripen because its cheaper eventhough gripen C/D failed to meet the requirement of all 5 role. The evaluation clearly state rafale the best fighter between the 3 but even the gripen C/D performance in the 2008 fly-off was much closer to that of the Eurofighter and Rafale than the Swiss evaluation team had anticipated

hence the swiss bought gripen E or NG variant that have aesa radar and new F414 engine


conclusion advance super hornet with aesa!! tongue.gif
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post Nov 23 2013, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Nov 23 2013, 04:27 PM)
y no one want Mig-35?  cry.gif
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not finish development right? i think that why no want wanted it yet further not having future chateristic of current development fighter aircraft like f35 or advance super hornet which have capabilty like stealth
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post Nov 23 2013, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Nov 23 2013, 09:03 PM)
Dapatkan jsm je lar ini confirm lebih senang nak dapat and its way better.
Kalau nak weapons pacakage yg bagus daripada US wetdream je banyak. Baik kita ambik terus daripada europe.
Cik su kita masih boleh mod lagi. Easy and simple solution.

Kalau jsow dapat beli belum tentu dia bagi kita simpan.
Mayb letak kat gaum afb.
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agree to this, better go for jsm or nsm

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