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atreyuangel
post Nov 22 2013, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Nov 22 2013, 11:33 AM)
..STAFOC i think is replacing/enhance UTC, more on organize crime.. UTK for counter terrorist...
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UTC bukan D9 punya strike force ka?

QUOTE(hafizushi @ Nov 22 2013, 11:41 AM)
huh that dangerous, we might end up with a lot of problem

i guess each choices also have some risk, price risk, spec risk

but seriously US, behaving like that doh.gif
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that why I always said, no matter who wins the MMRCA
TUDM will buy Super Hornet maybe in small number for political/diplomatic reason

QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Nov 22 2013, 10:11 AM)
Don't understand the need to create separate elite units in PDRM. Can't they just second UTK units to support JSJ? The specialty is a subset of UTK anyway unlike police marine special unit.
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UTK and VAT members are not available at all state, and sometime to deploy UTK team sometime need time and clearence from higher ups

I think that the JSJ are following the footsteps of D9 that have their own strike team that can be deploy much sooner without much hassle

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post Nov 22 2013, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Nov 22 2013, 10:11 AM)
Don't understand the need to create separate elite units in PDRM. Can't they just second UTK units to support JSJ? The specialty is a subset of UTK anyway unlike police marine special unit.
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Directly under JSJ, easier to deploy when needed..

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post Nov 22 2013, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 22 2013, 12:01 PM)
UTC bukan D9 punya strike force ka?
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D9 kan dalam JSJ..huhuhuh
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post Nov 22 2013, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Nov 22 2013, 12:25 PM)
D9 kan dalam JSJ..huhuhuh
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haah aku lupa,
jadi betul la rebranding UTC,
takut konpius ngan ni kot



kene tengok la depa pakai beret apa
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post Nov 22 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(trouble_chegu @ Nov 22 2013, 12:03 PM)
Directly under JSJ, easier to deploy when needed..
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Understand the need but it will deprive UTK of the real actions that is needed to enhance their experience. I assume JSJ would see more action than UTK. By seconding some units to JSJ on rotation basis and their day-to-day activities are directed by JSJ would achieve the same purpose. This would be similar structure to some regiment like artillery or signal being attached to some brigade or company.
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post Nov 22 2013, 03:09 PM

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Seoul picks F-35 as its next-generation fighter

Published : 2013-11-22 15:14
Updated : 2013-11-22 15:46

South Korea decided to purchase 40 radar-evading warplanes for deployment from 2018-2021 for its restarted fighter procurement project on Friday, making Lockheed Martin’s F-35 warplane its sole option.

During a meeting of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Council, the military decided to buy 40 stealth aircraft first and then 20 additional warplanes later in consideration of shifts in the security environment and technological development.

“During the meeting, the required operational capabilities were revised to procure fighters with high-tech stealth and electronic warfare capabilities, which will help deter North Korean provocations,” Brigadier Gen. Shin Ik-hyun, a JCS force management, told reporters.

Analysts say that the possibility still remains that Seoul could purchase the remaining 20 aircraft from other companies such as Boeing and the European Aeronautic Defense and Space Company to gain technology for its separate “KFX” project to build a home-built warplane.

The JCS council also decided to turn the KFX project, which was initially a long-term project, into a mid-term project, and to quickly push to construct a basic system development plan.

Sources presumed that the KFX development would finish around 2020, with deployment to begin in 2023.

The F-35 is an all-aspect stealth fighter still under development. It has been widely expected that Seoul would seek to purchase radar-evading jets, as neighboring states such as China, Japan and Russia are seeking to procure stealth aircraft.


By Song Sang-ho


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post Nov 22 2013, 03:34 PM

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Swiss Battle Could Be Euro-Canard Turning Point

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/dub...d-turning-point
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post Nov 22 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Nov 22 2013, 02:58 PM)
Understand the need but it will deprive UTK of the real actions that is needed to enhance their experience. I assume JSJ would see more action than UTK. By seconding some units to JSJ on rotation basis and their day-to-day activities are directed by JSJ would achieve the same purpose. This would be similar structure to some regiment like artillery or signal being attached to some brigade or company.
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UTK and UTC are already established for a long time
I now see this more a UTC rebranding
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post Nov 22 2013, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 22 2013, 03:34 PM)
Swiss Battle Could Be Euro-Canard Turning Point

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/dub...d-turning-point
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from what i understand it put like this

rafale > eurofighter > gripen C/D


swiss in the end choose gripen because its cheaper eventhough gripen C/D failed to meet the requirement of all 5 role. The evaluation clearly state rafale the best fighter between the 3 but even the gripen C/D performance in the 2008 fly-off was much closer to that of the Eurofighter and Rafale than the Swiss evaluation team had anticipated

hence the swiss bought gripen E or NG variant that have aesa radar and new F414 engine


conclusion advance super hornet with aesa!! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hafizushi @ Nov 22 2013, 04:15 PM)
from what i understand it put like this

rafale > eurofighter > gripen C/D
swiss in the end choose gripen because its cheaper eventhough gripen C/D failed to meet the requirement of all 5 role. The evaluation clearly state rafale the best fighter between the 3 but even the gripen C/D performance in the 2008 fly-off was much closer to that of the Eurofighter and Rafale than the Swiss evaluation team had anticipated

hence the swiss bought gripen E or NG variant that have aesa radar and new F414 engine
conclusion advance super hornet with aesa!! tongue.gif
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Cheap and easy to maintain is always gripen strong points.
It would be a huge surprise if we choose gripen and superhornet. laugh.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 05:03 PM

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UPDATE 1-Lockheed says committed to South Korea F-35 offset offer

Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:00pm IST
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By Andrea Shalal-Esa

Nov 22 (Reuters) - Lockheed Martin Corp on Friday welcomed South Korea's plans to buy 40 F-35 fighter jets and said it still aimed to build a military communications satellite for Seoul and provide other technology transfers, despite a cut in the number of jets to be ordered.

"We remain committed to our offset projects and I am confident we can put together an agreement with the Korean authorities that preserves the existing projects," said Randy Howard, who headed Lockheed's South Korea F-35 campaign.

Howard said Lockheed was fully committed to working with Korean industry on its KF-X project to design a new fighter aircraft, just as it did on the T-50 trainer developed as part of an offset package for an earlier F-16 purchase.

"We put a bunch of projects on the table and we're not backing away," Howard told Reuters in a telephone interview. "I'm confident we can find a way to preserve the projects that have been offered."

South Korea's military chiefs on Friday decided to buy 40 F-35 stealth fighter jets settling a drawn-out process to beef up the country's defences.

Lockheed spokesman Eric Schnaible said the company would continue to work closely with the U.S. government to meet Korea's Air Force requirements.

"Lockheed Martin is committed to meeting Korea's offset requirements including support and technology transfer for KF-X," he said.

He said the F-35's conventional takeoff and landing model, configured with the final 3F software package that gives the jet its full combat capability, was available to meet Korea's requirement for initial deliveries of the planes in 2018.

Sources familiar with Lockheed's offset package said the company would have to sit down with Korean officials to work out details as part of finalising a fighter deal.

South Korea initially planned to buy 60 fighter jets in the competition, but on Friday said it would initially buy 40 of the stealthy F-35 fighters, which are designed to be nearly invisible to enemy radar, and then open a competition for 20 more planes to other bidders.

Lockheed's offset package includes a program to build, launch and place in orbit a new military communications satellite that will be fully owned and operated by the South Korean government, as well as all necessary control equipment and technical training, said the sources, who were not authorised to speak publicly.

To help Korea develop its new KF-X fighter, Lockheed said it would provide hundreds of man hours of engineering expertise for the KF-X fighter program, as well as hundreds of thousands of pages of technical documentation from its F-16, F-35 and F-22 fighter programs.

The company also offered to build a virtual cyber warfare center to help South Korea develop its cyber training, tactics and procedures.

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KFX Fighter:

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post Nov 22 2013, 06:23 PM

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According to a Reuters report dated November 19,2013 US Navy still looking at options to buy FA 18 E/F as well as EA-18G to keep the FA 18 production line open beyond 2016.
Richard Gilpin, deputy assistant secretary of the Navy for air programs and Navy Captain Frank Morley, who heads the F/A-18 and EA-18G program both said that the F 35 and FA 18 were always intended to operate together.

"The Navy has also mapped out plans for a two-year halt in procurement of the F-35 C-model if U.S. lawmakers fail to reverse tough mandatory cuts in military spending - a move seen by some industry executives as a sign of the Navy's lukewarm support of the multi-service F-35 fighter program."

SOURCE :-http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/19/us-airshow-dubai-navy-fighters-idUSBRE9AI18B20131119

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post Nov 22 2013, 07:20 PM

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Poland signed purchase agreement for 119 Leopard 2 tanks from Germany.

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German Leopards for the Polish army

Published: Thursday, 21 November 2013 , 9:55 , last edited : Thursday, 21 November 2013 , 20:13

This Friday in Poznan, Minister of National Defence Tomasz Siemoniak sign a purchase agreement for the Polish 119 Leopard 2 tanks For nearly a billion zlotys acquisition of 105 cars Leopard 2A5 and 14 Leopard 2A4 slightly older . They will join 128 Leopard 2A4 , which for a decade already serving in the Polish Land Forces.

The planned purchase of the second brigade of German tanks were the first informed when the issue was only a proposal of the Minister of National Defence at a cabinet meeting . Today it is a decision already a foregone conclusion. With the adoption of these cars on the equipment , the Polish Army would become one of the largest users of Leopard 2 tanks Not only in NATO.

With two armored brigades of the machines , we should think of them as a long service life. In contrast to other members Leopard 2A4 version , have not thought much about their adaptation to current standards . The question arose in the financial plans MON only recently .

In the first half of the year began with a technical dialogue and November 28 is the deadline for the submission of tenders for the modernization of 128 Leopard 2A4 tanks to the standard " Leopard 2GB " . This program is expected to cost up to 2 billion zł , which is twice more than Friday's purchase of "new" machines. Therefore, you should seriously consider the scope tejmodernizacji . Many experts say that you should think of a comprehensive solution , including a newly purchased cars.

- Retrofitting 2A4 to 2A5 clean version is irrational , because the market there is much more complete solutions that go far beyond the design 2A5 - hearing about the planned purchase in September said Andrzej Kinski , editor-in -chief of the New Military Technology . - The supply of the same standard 2A5 is a mistake. You have to create a common approach for the two versions , which will be adjusted to a higher standard.


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post Nov 22 2013, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Nov 21 2013, 12:34 PM)
lepas cium go see super puma
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dude, at first glance, I read as

lepas cium super puma dengan pilot hensem
hahaha
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2013 Exercise Semangat Bersatu, Singapore

Strengthening the warm and long-standing relations between the SAF and the MAF.

A total of 300 personnel from the 1st Battalion, Singapore Infantry Regiment (1 SIR) and the 10th Battalion, Royal Malay Regiment (10 RMR) took part in this year's Exercise Semangat Bersatu. The 8-day exercise included professional exchanges and a combined battalion field exercise.

Singapore Armed Forces Chief of Army Major-General Ravinder Singh and Malaysian Armed Forces Chief of Army General Datuk Raja Mohamed Affandi Bin Raja Mohamed Noor co-officiated the closing ceremony this afternoon.

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to defeat Singapore's army>> send GGK to infiltrate their barracks and break every spectacles they have..
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post Nov 22 2013, 09:49 PM

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is that comments really necessary?
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Nov 22 2013, 09:49 PM)
is that comments really necessary?
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but..but..they wear glasses..seriously, they look so weak when they wear it.. sad.gif sad.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 10:12 PM

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because those people are your average neets before being toughened up when drafted into NS
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besides, if you think their glasses are fugly, wait till you see the grunts' Rape-prevention glasses

google them

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