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azriel
post Nov 21 2013, 02:06 PM

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S. Korea set to decide on purchase of Lockheed F-35As

2013/11/21 10:14

By Kim Eun-jung

SEOUL, Nov. 21 (Yonhap) -- South Korea is expected to decide this week to purchase Lockheed Martin's F-35A stealth fighters without opening bidding for its new fighter jet program, sources familiar with the matter said Thursday.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) will hold a meeting of top commanders on Friday to confirm the required operational capability (ROC), the number of jets and the delivery schedule for the acquisition program, which will be more favorable conditions for the F-35 with advanced radar-evading capabilities.

The Air Force has asked for the government to buy the combat aircraft with a lower radar cross section, one of the key stealth functions, and advanced avionic warfare capabilities.

"The Air Force has not specified the radar cross section in the ROC, but its technical requirements were aimed at selecting the F-35," a senior military official said, asking for anonymity.

The decision comes three months after the South Korean government rejected Boeing's F-15 Silent Eagle -- the only bid within the 8.3 trillion won (US$7.2 billion) budget -- to get a more advanced, radar-evading jet to replace its aging fleet.

Potential bidders have paid keen attention to the upcoming decision as the military requirement is critical for the new competition as the F-35 is the only plane in the running that meets the heightened standards for stealth. Boeing's advanced F-15s and EADS's Eurofighter are considered to have relatively weak stealth capabilities.

As the F-35 is sold only through the U.S. foreign military sales (FMS) program, if it's the sole candidate, it could raise the chance for a government-to-government sale.

Although the Air Force has asked for 60 jets to be delivered between 2017 and 2021, multiple sources said there is a possibility that the total number of jets could be decreased to 40 to meet the budget or that the aircraft will be purchased through a multi-phased program.

The Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) can extend the funding up to 120 percent of the total budget assigned for the past program, but such a decision needs approval from the finance ministry and the parliament. Assigning an increased budget for the costly fighter acquisition could also draw complaints from other military branches that are eager to upgrade their equipment.

While the FMS program could shorten the acquisition process compared to the competition, the proposed schedule could be delayed one or two years due to a protracted decision, according to military officials.

Unlike the fierce competition for the past project, industry experts say the one-way bid would give Seoul less room for negotiating other conditions such as technology transfer and industrial cooperation in connection with the program.

While Lockheed Martin is keen on the number of jets and estimated budget, Boeing and EADS have raised their sales pitch in case Seoul opts to buy a mix of jets.

Boeing has proposed a mixed purchase of F-15s and F-35s to minimize a security vacuum, while EADS has highlighted an offset deal, including the transfer of technology and industrial participation for South Korea's indigenous fighter jet project for synergies between the aircraft procurement and development program.

In case the total number of jets is reduced, Lockheed officials have hinted at scaling back its offset deal that's based on 60 aircraft, which included developing and launching a military satellite and technology transfer for Korea's indigenous fighter development program, codenamed K-FX.

Friday's JCS meeting will also include a decision on the K-FX project, which aims to build F-16 class fighter jets to replace the Air Force's aging fleet of F-4 and F-5 fighter planes.

South Korea has been seeking to develop a much larger indigenous fighter jet program with the help of major defense contractors, although that has been delayed due to budget constraints and questions over its feasibility.

The state arms development agency has been working on the concept and designs of the aircraft, and has been waiting for the government's approval to start a full-scale project.

Once the JCS endorses plans for the K-FX, local institutes will be able to start the system development from next year, a senior defense ministry official said.

"While the K-FX has been included in the long-term plan, the upcoming meeting will confirm the required operational capability and the deployment schedule," the senior military official said, asking for anonymity. "The military will confirm the requirement, taking into consideration domestic development."

Previous studies by the Korea Development Institute (KDI) showed that the KF-X would cost at least $6 billion for system development alone and would bring about fewer economic benefits than expected, and total cost for production and maintenance could snowball in the future.

While the Agency for Defense Development (ADD) has been working on concepts and shapes of aircrafts, some experts point out that the Air Force has not yet prepared a concrete concept for the aircraft and underestimated its total cost.

Scientists and defense contractors, however, stress the need for government-level efforts to build South Korea's own combat jets with a long-term vision for the aerospace industry.


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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Nov 21 2013, 12:31 PM)
saya mau kena cium amoi ini

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PDRM PERKENAL PASUKAN ELIT JSJ

Kuala Lumpur, 21 Nov - Sebentar tadi, bertempat di Pulapol Kuala Lumpur, telah berlangsung satu demonstrasi ‘Counter Strike’ dan ‘Hostage Resque’ yang telah dilaksanakan oleh pegawai dan anggota daripada Pasukan Elit Taktikal Ops Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah (JSJ) Polis Diraja Malaysia (PDRM).

Pasukan ini telah ditubuhkan sebagaimana telah diumumkan oleh Menteri Dalam Negeri pada 22 Ogos 2013 sempena mesyuarat di antara KDN dan PDRM baru-baru ini.

Kelulusan bagi kekuatan sumber manusianya seramai 400 orang telah diberikan dengan berorientasikan kepada 2 pasukan elit bagi menangani dua permasalahan iaitu berkaitan kes-kes jenayah dengan efisien dan pembanterasan permasalahan dadah.

Operasi-operasi pasukan ini adalah bersifat multi-tasking dalam mengurus dan menangani isu-isu jenayah, jenayah berat, jenayah bersindiket, gangsterisme, perjudian, pelacuran dan pemerdagangan manusia.

Berkonsepkan ‘Intelligence Led Policing And Aggresive Action On Organized Crime’ pasukan ini akan melangsungkan operasi secara langsung di kontinjen serta daerah yang dikenalpasti dengan dikawal selia secara langsung oleh pihak Bukit Aman.

Tan Sri Dato’ Sri Khalid bin Abu Bakar, Ketua Polis Negara dalam kenyataannya hari ini berkata, sebanyak 200 perjawatan telah diperuntukkan kepada Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah (JSJ) manakala 200 lagi kepada Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah Narkotik (JSJN).

Pihak JSJ sehingga kini telah melaksanakan 2 siri pemilihan pegawai dan anggota dari pelbagai formasi dan unit tindakan dalam PDRM mulai penghujung Oktober yang lepas dan dijangka, pasukan ini akan beroperasi sepenuhnya 1 Januari 2014.

Kesemua mereka akan dihantar untuk menjalani kursus-kursus tempur dan taktikal yang akan dikendalikan oleh jurulatih dari Pasukan Komando Vat 69 dan Unit Tindak Khas (UTK) PDRM.

Turut hadir pada hari ini, Pengarah-pengarah, Timbalan-timbalan Pengarah, Pegawai-pegawai Kanan PDRM serta wakil-wakil media.

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2013 Exercise Southern Katipo, New Zealand

Back in Timaru near the airfield
21 November 2013 Thursday

RNZAF A109LUH

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2013 Exercise Wallaby, SWBTA, Australia

Breaking New Ground
19 November 2013 Tuesday

Exercise Wallaby 13 - Double firsts for the SAF!

This year's Exercise Wallaby held at the Shoalwater Bay Training Area in Queensland, Australia, provided an excellent opportunity for the SAF to operationalise the new Light Strike Vehicle Mark II (LSV Mk II).

In a separate exercise code named Trident, the first ever bilateral Humanitarian Aid and Disaster Relief (HADR) integrated exercise between servicemen from our three Services and the Australian Defence Force (ADF) was held.

These milestones were witnessed by Minister for Defence Dr Ng Eng Hen and Australian Assistant Minister for Defence Stuart Robert when they visited our soldiers participating in Ex Wallaby today.

Here are the key highlights of Exercise Wallaby 13. Enjoy!

Light Strike Vehicle Mark II (LSV Mk II), firing of SPIKE ATGM.

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Minister for Defence Dr Ng Eng Hen and Australian Assistant Minister for Defence Stuart Robert driving the vehicle down Mt Kelly after the live firing exercise


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wat diff btw these guys and UTK/vat69?
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Today i saw AH64 apache in subang airport, any ideas?
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post Nov 21 2013, 10:08 PM

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sembang gempak je eurofighter la super hornet la rafale la.. sekali kita macam hanya boleh angkat gripen je
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berita baiknya.. Malaysia mungkin akan masuk projek SUKHOI PAK FA pula lepas ni
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 21 2013, 02:31 PM)
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gambar amoi takde
gambar kapal ada

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flight hangar

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FCU (fast craft utility) in the well deck

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makan angin on the FCU with our tour guide, who gave more info on the RSS Endurance:
The original RSS Endurance was bought 2nd hand from US (USS Holmes County) in 1975 for the earth-shattering amount of... 1 USD.
USS Holmes County was built in 1944 and saw service in ww2, korea and vietnam.
The current RSS Endurance was built in 1998 by ST Marine in jurong + 3 other sister ships + 1 for thai navy.
they are the largest ship in RSN (141m long, 6500-8500 tons displacement) and well armed (76mm gun, 2x 25mm bushmaster on typhoon platform, 4x 50 cal MG, 2x mistral AA).

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Nov 21 2013, 07:31 PM)
2013 Exercise Southern Katipo, New Zealand

Back in Timaru near the airfield
21 November 2013 Thursday

RNZAF A109LUH

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Saya nak order 3 pizza large, 2 regular
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wat diff btw these guys and UTK/vat69?
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This are under Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah, unlike hte UTK/VAT
they are main trained and specialize in CQB and FIBUA unlike the UTK/VAT that have much more broad specialty

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..but why formed another elite police force instead of increasing the size of UTK/VAT69 to do the job?
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post Nov 22 2013, 09:31 AM

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The most important is the whole package.
Whichever provides a better deal get its.

advance sh is nice but if we have too many restriction apa gunanya.
rafale might be expensive but they would have less restriction.
gripen is much more open among all. Tak ada duit no problem lease aje. Name any missile you want they will intergrate it as long as the airframe can carry it.
ef2000 too expensive no thanks.

pakfa would be the most ideal for air superiority replacement. But kena wait the decelopment to be complete.

conclusion lease gripen as interim aircraft get pakfa when it available. tongue.gif
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If Malaysia decide to buy and not lease the Gripen i'm not quite sure there will be no interference from US side if particularly a US firm loses in a bid competition. The RTA experienced that with their last batch of Gripen.

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Parts row delays delivery of 6 Saab aircraft

Published: 9/06/2012 at 12:00 AM

The delivery of the six Saab 340 AEW airborne early warning aircraft was set for last Tuesday at Don Muang military air base with the ceremony to welcome them scheduled for last Wednesday at Wing 7 in Surat Thani.

But this has now been put off because an American parts supplier has refused to sell some key products to the Swedish manufacturer for reasons that are unclear, said the source.

The Saab 340 AEW is used to control the Gripen fighter fleet.

"Certain key items of the jet parts and the radar system produced by the US firm have not been granted permission to be sold to other countries," said the source. "And that has resulted in a delay in [the Swedish company's] assembling of the aircraft which I really have no idea when will be completed.

"I'm not sure if this is a game or not because the Royal Thai Air Force chose the Gripen from Sweden over the F series aircraft from the United States. The latter might not be happy with that," said the source.

Air force commander Itthaporn Subha-wong travelled to Sweden late last month to discuss the delivery with Saab but to no avail, said the source.

Previously, the air force bought a total of 12 Gripen fighter jets from Sweden along with two Saab 340 AEW aircraft and one Saab 340 transport aircraft for a total of 34 billion baht.

The first batch of aircraft of six Gripen fighter jets, one Saab 340 AEW and one Saab 340 has been delivered and commissioned at Wing 7.

The second batch of another six Gripen jets and one more Saab 340 AEW aircraft are awaiting delivery.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/lite/news/29724...6-saab-aircraft


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post Nov 22 2013, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 21 2013, 10:20 PM)
This are under Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah, unlike hte UTK/VAT
they are main trained and specialize in CQB and FIBUA unlike the UTK/VAT that have much more broad specialty

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Don't understand the need to create separate elite units in PDRM. Can't they just second UTK units to support JSJ? The specialty is a subset of UTK anyway unlike police marine special unit.

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Nov 22 2013, 10:11 AM)
Don't understand the need to create separate elite units in PDRM. Can't they just second UTK units to support JSJ? The specialty is a subset of UTK anyway unlike police marine special unit.
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QUOTE(azriel @ Nov 22 2013, 09:31 AM)
If Malaysia decide to buy and not lease the Gripen i'm not quite sure there will be no interference from US side if particularly a US firm loses in a bid competition. The RTA experienced that with their last batch of Gripen.
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huh that dangerous, we might end up with a lot of problem

i guess each choices also have some risk, price risk, spec risk

but seriously US, behaving like that doh.gif

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