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Military Thread V10, Merry X'Mas and Happy New Year
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TSyinchet
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Nov 23 2013, 09:03 PM
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If you wish for peace, prepare for war
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 23 2013, 08:39 PM) They really try to push, seems desperate lak hahaha aku rasa RMAF nak JSOW, tp blom tentu dapat and you know, kalao RMAF tak dapat, dia delay lagi  Dapatkan jsm je lar ini confirm lebih senang nak dapat and its way better. Kalau nak weapons pacakage yg bagus daripada US wetdream je banyak. Baik kita ambik terus daripada europe. Cik su kita masih boleh mod lagi. Easy and simple solution. Kalau jsow dapat beli belum tentu dia bagi kita simpan. Mayb letak kat gaum afb.
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xtemujin
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Nov 23 2013, 09:05 PM
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The story of Indian Navy's largest warship INS VikramadityaBy Shiv Aroor | 23 November 2013 Saturday The 45,000 ton aircraft carrier was ceremonially transferred to the Indian Navy on November 16, nearly five years later than promised and over $1.5 billion over contracted cost. Video, 30 minutes. http://indiatoday.intoday.in/video/ins-vik...p/1/326216.htmlThis post has been edited by xtemujin: Nov 23 2013, 09:49 PM
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Intel Core i7
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Nov 23 2013, 09:13 PM
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Do we have aircraft carrier?
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Phillip_x
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Nov 23 2013, 09:14 PM
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Winter/Spring 2013
"If the United States is to counterbalance China successfully, it must be able to threaten China’s energy security. Ideally, the United States should be in a position in which it can persuade the Persian Gulf oil producers, if necessary, to turn off the tap and decline to supply China with oil and gas. Furthermore, the United States must be able to put in place anti-access, area denial strategies (a) in the eastern Indian Ocean and Bay of Bengal to blockade the Malacca, Sunda and Lambok Straits; and (b) in the western Indian Ocean and the Arabian Sea to blockade the arc between the Bab el Mandab to the Strait of Hormuz. Indonesia, India, and Iran will be critical to the success of a recalibrated American grand strategy to contain China " Samir Tata.
Source:-http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/parameters/Issues/WinterSpring_2013/7_Article_Tata.pdf
This post has been edited by Phillip_x: Nov 23 2013, 09:27 PM
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TSyinchet
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Nov 23 2013, 09:15 PM
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If you wish for peace, prepare for war
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QUOTE(Intel Core i7 @ Nov 23 2013, 09:13 PM) Do we have aircraft carrier? No we dun have and we dun need it.
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Intel Core i7
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Nov 23 2013, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Nov 23 2013, 09:15 PM) No we dun have and we dun need it. why?
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TSyinchet
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Nov 23 2013, 09:22 PM
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If you wish for peace, prepare for war
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QUOTE(Intel Core i7 @ Nov 23 2013, 09:16 PM) We dun need that kind of power projection and we can't afford it.. Aircraft carrier require lots of money operates.
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cks2k2
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Nov 23 2013, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(Intel Core i7 @ Nov 23 2013, 09:16 PM) nak invade siapa
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Intel Core i7
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Nov 23 2013, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Nov 23 2013, 09:22 PM) We dun need that kind of power projection and we can't afford it.. Aircraft carrier require lots of money operates. I thought 4 years back malaysia had idea to buy from Korea
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kerolzarmyfanboy
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Nov 23 2013, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Nov 23 2013, 09:15 PM) No we dun have and we dun need it. single nimitz-class's costs: Construction Costs – USD $4.5 billion Operating and Support Costs – USD $14 billion Other Costs – USD $1 billion the cost of one carrier can buy a fleet of 30 modern corvette/frigate ..while the maintenance cost for a carrier per month is like supporting the development cost of a state for 20 years! (i've compared with 2014 Selangor's development budget which is RM1.85 bil).. hell naw for carrier..
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Phillip_x
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Nov 23 2013, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(asyraff88kmp @ Nov 23 2013, 08:58 PM) Some said that Navy visit was 'arranged', if you know what I mean No idea what you mean.... but i think that logically that if, God forbid, a war was to break out involving China then its of the utmost practicality that the US gets bases or staging areas which are more secure than the current ones in South Korea and Japan. The Philippines and Vietnam (they offered the use of Cam Ranh Base ) are too close to China for comfort. The only other logical place would be Singapore, Indonesia or Malaysia, and out of the three Indonesia is the most strategic as by basing in Indonesia together with India they can effectively "police" the eastern Indian Ocean and Bay of Bengal and to blockade the Malacca, Sunda and Lombok Straits. This post has been edited by Phillip_x: Nov 23 2013, 09:31 PM
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kerolzarmyfanboy
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Nov 23 2013, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(Phillip_x @ Nov 23 2013, 09:26 PM) No idea what you mean.... but i think that logically that if, God forbid, a war was to break out involving China then its of the utmost practicality that the US gets bases or staging areas which are more secure than the current ones in South Korea and Japan. The Philippines and Vietnam (they offered the use of Cam Ranh Base ) are too close to China for comfort. The only other logical place would be Singapore, Indonesia or Malaysia, and out of the three Indonesia is the most strategic as by basing in Indonesia together with India they can effectively "police" the eastern Indian Ocean and Bay of Bengal and to blockade the Malacca, Sunda and Lombok Straits. good analysis
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ayanami_tard
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Nov 23 2013, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(Intel Core i7 @ Nov 23 2013, 10:16 PM) our doctrine
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cks2k2
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Nov 23 2013, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(Phillip_x @ Nov 23 2013, 09:26 PM) No idea what you mean.... but i think that logically that if, God forbid, a war was to break out involving China then its of the utmost practicality that the US gets bases or staging areas which are more secure than the current ones in South Korea and Japan. The Philippines and Vietnam (they offered the use of Cam Ranh Base ) are too close to China for comfort. The only other logical place would be Singapore, Indonesia or Malaysia, and out of the three Indonesia is the most strategic as by basing in Indonesia together with India they can effectively "police" the eastern Indian Ocean and Bay of Bengal and to blockade the Malacca, Sunda and Lombok Straits. Fat Leonard's recent case. the question is: would Indonesia cooperate with the americans? This post has been edited by cks2k2: Nov 23 2013, 09:32 PM
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TSyinchet
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Nov 23 2013, 09:32 PM
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If you wish for peace, prepare for war
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QUOTE(Intel Core i7 @ Nov 23 2013, 09:25 PM) I thought 4 years back malaysia had idea to buy from Korea Mini dokdo class. it just landing heli dock.
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Phillip_x
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Nov 23 2013, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Nov 23 2013, 09:30 PM) Fat Leonard's recent case. the question is: would Indonesia cooperate with the americans? I think that's where Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia comes into the picture. - Thailand for the Eastern side of SCS, Sepanggar for Western side of SCS - Malaysia / Singapore Straits of Melaka - Singapore - Sunda Straits or even Australia from Christmas Island - Thailand - Bay of Bengal , Straits of Melaka Which leaves just the Lombok Straits unprotected ( Christmas Islands to fr away from Lombok ) . The US and India can police Eastern the Indian Ocean under a different arrangement. This post has been edited by Phillip_x: Nov 23 2013, 09:45 PM
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cks2k2
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Nov 23 2013, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(Phillip_x @ Nov 23 2013, 09:35 PM) I think that's where Singapore and Malaysia comes into the picture. again, not too sure if both countries are willing to risk pissing off china. unlike the viets and pinoys, my/sing have always stayed neutral.
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TSyinchet
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Nov 23 2013, 09:45 PM
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If you wish for peace, prepare for war
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Malaysia always use soft politics approach.
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cks2k2
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Nov 23 2013, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(Phillip_x @ Nov 23 2013, 09:35 PM) I think that's where Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia comes into the picture. - Thailand for the Eastern side of SCS, Sepanggar for Western side of SCS - Malaysia / Singapore Straits of Melaka - Singapore - Sunda Straits or even Australia from Christmas Island - Thailand - Bay of Bengal , Straits of Melaka Which leaves just the Lombok Straits unprotected ( Christmas Islands to fr away from Lombok ) . The US and India can police Eastern the Indian Ocean under a different arrangement. there was a report, i think from the ozzies on the US a2/ad and AirSea battle doctrine which stated that the only "true" allies the americans can count on in asia-pac are the japs, skoreans and ozzies. the rest...
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