Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
125 Pages « < 77 78 79 80 81 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

> Military Thread V10, Merry X'Mas and Happy New Year

views
     
TSyinchet
post Nov 23 2013, 07:31 PM

If you wish for peace, prepare for war
Group Icon
Elite
1,157 posts

Joined: Jul 2008
From: Petaling Jaya

QUOTE(king of fighter @ Nov 23 2013, 07:02 PM)
cuba tanya yinchet, dia yang mula-mula kata minta Malaysia angkat superhornet.. aku baca banyak gak pasal development dia,
dari segi teknologi, mungkin rafale lebih bagus tapi disebabkan malaysia semua benda pun nak save je.. jadi superhornet dan growler paling cost effective untuk negara kecil macam kita ni.. kalau kita angkat saab punya gripen, takut lawan musuh dahsyat2 'bateri dia kong pula'.. radius of operation dia paling kecil antara semua yang bertanding tender MMRCA tu  sweat.gif
*
Sh bukan yg paling cost effective.
tapi gripen yg paling cost effective dari segi kos operasi hingga ke kos maintenance. Gripen antara yg paling senang nak buat maintenance dan tenaga kerja yg paling kurang sekali dia cuma memerlukan 3 orang je untuk buat semua.

gripen combat radiusnya lebih daripada hornet kita.
hornet kita cuma mempunyai combat radius 760km je.
tapi gripen 800km.
dalam development super gripen dia orang bercadang nak letak cft dengan ini combat radius boleh mencecah 1000km.
Saya rasa advance sh dan super gripen akan mempunyai combat radius yg sama.

as for mig35 kurang mendapat sambutan mungkin disebabkan ia masih dalam development.
antara factor lain ialah takut masalah kos maintenance yg mahal mig29 akan dibawa ke mig35.
SUSking of fighter
post Nov 23 2013, 07:42 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
27 posts

Joined: Oct 2012
QUOTE(yinchet @ Nov 23 2013, 07:31 PM)
Sh bukan yg paling cost effective.
tapi gripen yg paling cost effective dari segi kos operasi hingga ke kos maintenance. Gripen antara yg paling senang nak buat maintenance dan tenaga kerja yg paling kurang sekali dia cuma memerlukan 3 orang je untuk buat semua.

gripen combat radiusnya lebih daripada hornet kita.
hornet kita cuma mempunyai combat radius 760km je.
tapi gripen 800km.
dalam development super gripen dia orang bercadang nak letak cft dengan ini combat radius boleh mencecah 1000km.
Saya rasa advance sh dan super gripen akan mempunyai combat radius yg sama.

as for mig35 kurang mendapat sambutan mungkin disebabkan ia masih dalam development.
antara factor lain ialah takut masalah kos maintenance yg mahal mig29 akan dibawa ke mig35.
*
dah ada 'super gripen' dah rupa-rupanya sekarang ni ye whistling.gif
ayanami_tard
post Nov 23 2013, 07:48 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
40 posts

Joined: Sep 2009
From: under the moonlight
gripen NG....

if want to replace hawk 208 and F-5E then ok. maybe around 12 (minimum of 1 full squadron)units will do

but SH mesti beli. we need a great naval strike to cover southern chinese sea.

so 12 JAS-39NG and 12 F/A-18F is good deal
ezatamrol
post Nov 23 2013, 07:53 PM

New Member
*
Validating
15 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Nov 23 2013, 07:48 PM)
gripen NG....

if want to replace hawk 208 and F-5E then ok. maybe around 12 (minimum of 1 full squadron)units will do

but SH mesti beli. we need a great naval strike to cover southern chinese sea.

so 12 JAS-39NG and 12 F/A-18F is good deal
*
no, 24 gripen and 12 superhornet.
TSyinchet
post Nov 23 2013, 08:01 PM

If you wish for peace, prepare for war
Group Icon
Elite
1,157 posts

Joined: Jul 2008
From: Petaling Jaya

QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Nov 23 2013, 07:48 PM)
gripen NG....

if want to replace hawk 208 and F-5E then ok. maybe around 12 (minimum of 1 full squadron)units will do

but SH mesti beli. we need a great naval strike to cover southern chinese sea.

so 12 JAS-39NG and 12 F/A-18F is good deal
*
Yup.
gripen is best to replace our hawk and f5.
60gripen and 36 sh would be gooding.
SUSking of fighter
post Nov 23 2013, 08:03 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
27 posts

Joined: Oct 2012
QUOTE(yinchet @ Nov 23 2013, 08:01 PM)
Yup.
gripen is best to replace our hawk and f5.
60gripen and 36 sh would be gooding.
*
ambik kau 60 biji yinchet minta tu brows.gif
SUSking of fighter
post Nov 23 2013, 08:06 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
27 posts

Joined: Oct 2012
SAAB defence company story


Saab 39 Gripen and SAAB Gripen NG Fighter


Super Gripen or SAAB Gripen NG tactical demonstration

TSyinchet
post Nov 23 2013, 08:08 PM

If you wish for peace, prepare for war
Group Icon
Elite
1,157 posts

Joined: Jul 2008
From: Petaling Jaya

QUOTE(king of fighter @ Nov 23 2013, 08:03 PM)
ambik kau 60 biji yinchet minta tu  brows.gif
*
54biji mkm baru bagus.
18 kat semenanjung
18 kat sabah
18 kat sarawak
SUSking of fighter
post Nov 23 2013, 08:12 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
27 posts

Joined: Oct 2012
QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Nov 23 2013, 07:48 PM)
gripen NG....

if want to replace hawk 208 and F-5E then ok. maybe around 12 (minimum of 1 full squadron)units will do

but SH mesti beli. we need a great naval strike to cover southern chinese sea.

so 12 JAS-39NG and 12 F/A-18F is good deal
*
Growler please... u can take my money !!

Phillip_x
post Nov 23 2013, 08:17 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Oct 2013
Was looking at the Gowind model photos taken at LIMA they seem to come in a very conventional design, nothing at all like the earlier model photos, and the Kedah class looks more stealthy in design than our Gowinds.

This post has been edited by Phillip_x: Nov 23 2013, 08:33 PM
SUSking of fighter
post Nov 23 2013, 08:25 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
27 posts

Joined: Oct 2012
tak boleh ke trade-in USA angkat balik kita punya super hornet, tukar kita angkat Growler.. boleh dapat diskaun tak kalau buat camni??
atreyuangel
post Nov 23 2013, 08:27 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
406 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: 3°50'**.**"N - 103°16'**.**"E



QUOTE(king of fighter @ Nov 23 2013, 08:25 PM)
tak boleh ke trade-in USA angkat balik kita punya super hornet, tukar kita angkat Growler.. boleh dapat diskaun tak kalau buat camni??
*
tak boleh, ada sebab2 kenapa Hornet kita perlu duduk ngan kita
Growler bukan hebat sangat, MKM dah boleh buat role growler
Phillip_x
post Nov 23 2013, 08:32 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Oct 2013
QUOTE(king of fighter @ Nov 23 2013, 08:25 PM)
tak boleh ke trade-in USA angkat balik kita punya super hornet, tukar kita angkat Growler.. boleh dapat diskaun tak kalau buat camni??
*
Tak mungkin kita trade in kan baru saja dikatakan Hornet akan di upgrade. Kita dapat izin ke untuk beli Growler ? Tak mungkin ....AESA pun susah, Growler wet dream !

atreyuangel
post Nov 23 2013, 08:34 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
406 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: 3°50'**.**"N - 103°16'**.**"E



QUOTE(Phillip_x @ Nov 23 2013, 08:32 PM)
Tak mungkin kita  trade in kan baru saja dikatakan Hornet akan di upgrade. Kita dapat izin ke untuk beli Growler ? Tak mungkin ....AESA pun susah, Growler wet dream !
*
Advance SH pun Boeing pending dari Congress
belum tentu Congress nak bagi, tp bleh plak depa bawak datang LIMA hari tu
^KamilskaZ^
post Nov 23 2013, 08:35 PM

roar...roar....
******
Senior Member
1,222 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Melaka



at last dapat gak gripen.best apa delta wing
Phillip_x
post Nov 23 2013, 08:37 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Oct 2013
QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 23 2013, 08:34 PM)
Advance SH pun Boeing pending dari Congress
belum tentu Congress nak bagi, tp bleh plak depa bawak datang LIMA hari tu
*
Itu "softener" ... supaya dapat latih dengan SU 30MKM " Growlerski" !
atreyuangel
post Nov 23 2013, 08:39 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
406 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: 3°50'**.**"N - 103°16'**.**"E



QUOTE(Phillip_x @ Nov 23 2013, 08:37 PM)
Itu "softener"  ... supaya dapat latih dengan SU 30MKM " Growlerski" !
*
They really try to push,
seems desperate lak hahaha
aku rasa RMAF nak JSOW, tp blom tentu dapat
and you know, kalao RMAF tak dapat, dia delay lagi tongue.gif
Phillip_x
post Nov 23 2013, 08:53 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Oct 2013
QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 23 2013, 08:39 PM)
They really try to push,
seems desperate lak hahaha
aku rasa RMAF nak JSOW, tp blom tentu dapat
and you know, kalao RMAF tak dapat, dia delay lagi  tongue.gif
*
Probably full spec Hornet will be released for sale to us as we are now one of the most strategic countries in the region with China's ever widerning claims and actions.

As China has repeatedly stated over and over again for a very long time (I think From Chairman Mao's time ) that China's dominance is only subject to its " Archiles Heel " which is the Straits of Melaka, as it is totally reliant on sea transportation, and nearly all its oil and gas imports passes through the Straits.

I think thats why "relatively" we still have little problems from them. The James Shoal affair could be an indirect way of showing its displeasure at something or other ( if my line of soft reasoning approach is stretched far).

The US Navy visits have also increase dramatically to less than 10 a couple of years ago to 80-90 visits per year.

This post has been edited by Phillip_x: Nov 24 2013, 03:27 AM
asyraff88kmp
post Nov 23 2013, 08:58 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
17 posts

Joined: Jul 2008
From: The Assassin's HQ



Some said that Navy visit was 'arranged', if you know what I mean
azriel
post Nov 23 2013, 09:00 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
4 posts

Joined: Jan 2012
Chances for Boeing & Eurofighter still open.

QUOTE
S. Korea To Buy 40 F-35s; 20 More Jets Still Open

Nov. 22, 2013 - 11:05AM   |  
By JUNG SUNG-KI   |   Comments

SEOUL — South Korea decided to buy 40 F-35 conventional take-off joint strike fighters in a bid to better respond to North Korea’s increasing nuclear and missile threats, the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) announced Friday.

The competition was initially for 60 jets. Government officials say it’s possible the remaining order of 20 jets will not be F-35s.

The JCS held a top decision-making committee presided over by JCS Chairman Adm. Choi Yoon-hee to modify the operational requirements for the F-X III fighter jet acquisition plan.

The jet contest was nullified in September when the country’s arms procurement agency voted down a bid by Boeing to supply 60 F-15 Silent Eagle aircraft, citing the “4.5-generation” jet’s lack of radar-evading stealth capability.

“The next-generation fighter is a key asset of the ‘kill chain’ system to respond to North Korea’s nuclear and missile threat that has become a reality,” JCS spokesman Eom Hyo-shik said in a briefing.

The kill chain refers to a proactive defense system being developed by the South Korea military. It is to be used in preemptively detecting and striking North Korean main targets by using various tools, such as strike fighters and missiles, should the North show signs of attacks.

“We need fighter aircraft fitted with the state-of-the-art stealth technology and electronic warfare capability in order to secretly penetrate into the North’s airspace and strike key targets,” the spokesman said. “By securing those aircraft, we can deter North Korea’s provocation more effectively.”

The number of jets to be bought fell to 40 from the initial F-X III plan of 60 in order to meet the budget requirements as well as help fill the projected fighter jet vacuum over the next decade.

The aircraft are expected to be delivered to the South Korean Air Force from 2018 to 2021 if a contract is signed next year, officials said.

Based on the renewed requirements, the military and the budget authorities are expected to redesign the budget size, said Oh Tae-shik, head of the Defense Acquisition Program Administration’s program management bureau.

“We expect to firm up the total budget size for 40 F-35s after discussing with related government agencies,” he said.

Brig. Gen. Shin Ik-hyun, of the JCS’ strategic planning bureau said, “The remaining 20 aircraft will be bought after reviewing the required operational capability in tandem with changing security situations and aviation tech development trends.”

Asked to clarify if the remainder will also be F-35s, Defense Ministry spokesman Kim Min-seok said other aircraft could be invited for the competition.

“The remaining aircraft will be purchased by 2023,” the spokesman said. “If there are changes in the security environment, we could buy either more advanced jets or aircraft with lower radar cross section.” The statement leaves the door open for Boeing and Eurofighter to make fresh bids.

Kim Dae-young, a research member of the Korea Defense & Security Forum, anticipated Boeing and Eurofighter would likely link their new bids to the indigenous KF-X fighter development project.

“I believe the chances for Boeing and Eurofighter to win the deal for 20 aircraft remain slim,” Kim said. “The fighter makers, however, would be able to connect the deal to the South Korean bid to develop its own fighter aircraft by promising more lenient technology transfer than Lockheed.”

The KF-X plan is aimed at developing an F-16 class indigenous jet with technical assistance from foreign partners after 2020 and producing at least 120 planes. The F-X III requires bidders to offer technology transfer plans for the KF-X as part of offset programs.

The JCS decided to start the KF-X development next year with preliminary research and development.

There are worries, however, Lockheed Martin would be restricted in offering technologies since the Joint Strike Fighter program is strictly controlled by the US government.

Lockheed Martin tried to brush off those concerns by Koreans.

Randy Howard, Lockheed’s F-35 campaign head in Korea, said his company remains committed to its offset projects and working with the Korean industry on the KF-X project to design a new fighter aircraft as it did on the T-50 Golden Eagle supersonic trainer jet, which had been developed as part of an offset package for an earlier F-16 purchase.

Eurofighter has been the most active in the KF-X program. It offered a direct investment of $2 billion in the KF-X bid.

Boeing has also shown strong interest in the KF-X partnership.

“The KF-X is a huge business opportunity, maybe a bigger one than the F-X,” a Boeing official said. “We’ll continue to find ways of working together with the Korean government and industry.”


source

This post has been edited by azriel: Nov 23 2013, 09:01 PM

125 Pages « < 77 78 79 80 81 > » 
Bump Topic Topic ClosedOptions New Topic
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0236sec    0.20    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 15th December 2025 - 07:46 AM