Proton Suprima S owners and fans club V1


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List of those who dare buy 79k proton

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5 reasons why Suprima S is better than Vios G

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Proton Suprima S facebook club

Suprima S Android Wallpaper thread

If all else fails, ask the Preve club



This post has been edited by mystvearn: Apr 28 2014, 10:56 PM

Suprima S Android HU manual
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Updating Lokatoo map:




This post has been edited by mystvearn: Jul 11 2014, 05:28 PM

Reserved

At last suprima s thread. Nice.

Must reserve 1 post for FAQ

I reserve 2 places. If not enough, then put here.

Also, someone else take over V2 >>>>

I am waiting for Suprima thread to go live ever since the launched.
I am not an owner of Suprima but I am looking forward to this model.

Finally someone dare to take the responsibility.
Put me in the list will ya? Atlantic blue, 31/8/2013, CN: 010xx

Yeay..official tered
Count me in ya..
Atlantic blue, 13/9/13, CN: 009xx

New recruit reporting for duty sir!
Fire red battalion, been using since 11/9/2013, CN: 016XX
Nice to meet you all.

genetic silver, received 6/9/2013 chassis no:038x

u must also have this section

y dun wan to take over V2?
already saw it otr las week...atlantic blue looks nice...

*not a suprima owner *

Typical question (I predict will pop p) and I'm curious as well:

Will there be a manual version? 5 or 6 speed?

So how the fuel consumption?

being asking a few SA more regarding changing rims during warranty period...most of them said the warranty for wheels area will be void including absorber, spring,break and etc. they also remind me that 5 years warranty for solar tint also void if u put a new layer....hope u guys can help verified more since tint also be given by SA to us as free gift....if they know the rules why break it....


This post has been edited by kebeckham7: Sep 18 2013, 09:02 AM

I also want to know..better than T or H?

my friend working in proton said there'll be 6speed manual but MAYBE not for malaysian market.
they focus on europe..

Demm!! i didnt know that it'll void 5yr warranty for the tint..i did mine dy.lucky the new tint is 7 yrs warranty..
SA always cari side income der.. they offer u tint, maybe they get commission?

for 5 days, my average is 9.9l/100km. city driving.
i believe it can be lower

When the manual will come out?

9.9L/100km very high FC

no idea bro.. next month they release the exec variant..maybe later this year?
yeah.. but that average reading maybe due to i hentam throttle?

My last FC was 11.0L/100km cruising from KL-JB @160kph.

I wait for manual then..how engine performance?

Lol like toyota now...change rim can effect suspension & stuff thus if anything happen or problem occur to the wheel area warranty will not cover. Also its very entertaning when discussing this matter at their service advisor about this. Well what to do..to maintain the warranty just follow the procedure.

For me change to nicer rim its not only enhance the looks, but it shave some weight for better acceleration, braking & handling. Well that from my POV la..

What do you guys think?

1st,im sorry if this is too complicated,try to help,not forcing anyone to follow. to get juice up a bit fc by understanding punch cvt.

1) rolling start- always let the car roll a bit first by themselves after stagnant bfore press the throttle pedal.

2)rev up to 1.6k rpm max only if u r - at the parking lot, really slow stop n go traffic n at situation speed less than 40kmh.

3)rev between 1.7k to 1.9k rpm max only if u r - driving in town where speed between 50 to 80kmh is only needed,and cruising below 90 kmh.

4) when overtake,no need pedal to metal,just exploit the flat torque curve between 2-4k rpm only. sometimes 2k rpm is just enough.

k,just sharing. i am sorry in advance.

Nice...for me its not that bad dor cruising @160kmj..wish could afford one but my heart ady goes for exora prime.

Soo next step racechip?

Good note..should put infront page.

thanks bro!
will start practicing!

Hi mat, thanks for the info. What about during reversing? Sometimes I feel like the engine is about to stall when I reverse park. In fact it stalled on me once, the rpm was <1k. So now during reverse I make sure to rev it a little so that the rpm is around 1k. Is this normal?

Haha..no la. I don't need that kind of acceleration. This car is powerful enough for me as it is.

when reversing it feels heavy (when reversing from a slop). need to ram harder.
any advice on this matter?btw my car didnt stall..

many expecting MT...

9.9L/100km as stated in brochure? highway drive with light foot shud b able to achieve <7L/100km.
just my guess...

This car worth buying?

add me to the list, SS white

add me too....ss white

My opinion, it's worth it.

yeah that is what they said....only bodykit allowed since they want us to buy from them lol....if we buy the R3 rims from proton and change with SS rims how about the warranty? void also?

White honda accord 2013

when u have white car u should have black rims.....dammm hot....i use new honda as referrence....standard rims i think.

This post has been edited by kebeckham7: Sep 18 2013, 07:49 PM

during reversing,planetary gear play it parts n giving the cvt fix ratio. sometimes need to rev higher b4 the clutch is fully release to prevent the engine from stalling especially when its on a slope or slight incline. same as forward d mode when climbing an incline from static. just imagine a manual car clutch operation.

make sure u r in complete stop first bfore engaging reverse gear. if still the problem persist despite all ready practice as stated above,send it to sc to diagnose. normally it will go away after a while since its still new,the cvt i mean. i think ocv isnt suppose to be the culprit this time.

hard to diagnose without tools. but my advice,monitor it for a while.

Ask Preve thread

No time. Work so much. Come back tired. Last thing I want to do is manage this thread.

Good question. No idea what the fuel consumption is...after 1 day. Says 19.9km/l which cannot be right. I think need few refils before can give reading. In my case...maybe 6 months with the short distance I travel

This post has been edited by mystvearn: Sep 18 2013, 01:29 PM

please add me to the list

Atlantic blue, chassis number 008xx, received 1 september

If wanna change rims without affecting warranty, very simple - dont sell or trade in your stock rims.

Keep them at home and swap them back during claims.

what? the 6speed manual for europe only? demmm

Hello all, humble greeting from Preve thread!

Just want to remind you, do ask your SA to give you the SD card containing maps and POI for the GPS. Three out of four of my friends and colleagues had problem with the GPS (app crash), when they brought to service centers, they found out the SD cards were not present, which their SA should have given them when they collected their cars.

"List of those who dare buy 79k proton"

Er.... i think... there is another thread full of suckers that paid even more for a Proton....

Thanks, forgot about that. Updated 1st post

Ok, here are my gripes. Day 2:

1. Alarm/Panic button too big and easy to press. I have mistakenly pressed the alarm while the key is in the pocket. Few times mistaken the panic button for the lock button.

Solution: Make the alarm button more indented in future, or remove it altogether for the boot release button like high end cars.

2. Navigation mode: "Speed limit exceeded". This is annoying. GPS itself is actually pretty good. The voice, is a real person. That "speed limit exceeded is annoying especially the way I drive...will always exceed. 30km school area already exceeded.

Solution: Finding a way to root and install waze.

3. Personally i don't mind the clock, however, the clock design is the same font RTM used for news in the 80's and 90's. The same design

Improvements:

The next thing Proton has to change just to make product feel more upmarket: Glovebox. Honda Accord recycles its glove box like some 2 generations back. Same shape, same function. The main gripe is actually when closing it-have the ability to actually slam the glove box rather than opening the lever to avoid wear and tear at the hinge area. Spend another RM10 (at manufacturing level) at this area to improve the latch mechanism.

I don't mind all other buttons recycled from original Perdana from 95. Proton can sort of get away with that. They worked well enough.

There is a lot of space to add boot release symbol at the remote key fob (next to the unlock symbol) on the same button. People tend to forget that the unlock button does 2 things. Having a boot symbol with a small "3s>" helps a long way. Another thing about boot release feature is that sometimes you just want to unlock the boot without unlocking the car. Pressing 3 secs does not bypass the car unlocking mechanism. So while pressing for 3 secs, the car will unlock then only will the boot release. On higher end cars, the boot release button only opens the boot without unlocking the car. I think it is a simple remapping of the remote system to just open the boot without unlocking the car. I don't know how long the folding mirrors last, but that 5 year warranty is good to have. On another note, if the mirrors are not folded, your car is unlocked


These are more nitpicking after coming down from higher end product.


Also, my periodic inspection is coming out at 47 KM on odometer. Anyway to remove that myself or must I go to the SC?

This post has been edited by mystvearn: Sep 18 2013, 08:18 PM

Hi guys, newbie here. I'm very very interested in getting myself a Suprima S. In fact, I've test driven it for 3 times, hehe... The only thing holding me up from booking the car is that I'm worried about the reliability of the CVT transmission. I've no doubt about the 5 years warranty by Proton, but I plan to keep the car for at least 7 years (until my last installment).

I've driven only manual cars since getting my driving license 13 years ago. I enjoy driving on twisty roads and always downshift a gear when entering a hard corner. In the Suprima maybe I need to downshift 2 gears.

So my question is, do you think the Punch VT3 gearbox is reliable enough with frequent downshift for at least 7 years?

To truly answer the question, need to come back ask the same question next 7 years Or, wait until 1st person reports engine failure, or someone from Proton can answer how many KM they did endurance on the car. I don't think I will ever exceed the 180k km in the car's warranty period.

Can other suprima S confirm with me:
Is there suppose to be a hole at the refuelling area when you open the fuel filler cap? On some cars, even after you open the fuel cap, the refilling metal area is closed with some sort of plastic/rubber and when you insert the nozzle, it will push the plastic/rubber bit to open.

Thanks

This post has been edited by mystvearn: Sep 18 2013, 08:24 PM

about the speed limit.. theres an option to toggle off warning when speed is breached in their setting

in case ts might overloook, im a genetic silver user , received on 6/9, cn: 0038x

This post has been edited by Noyoudontcare: Sep 18 2013, 08:32 PM

Sorry about that.

Thanks.

Will there will be a Xenon headlamp option in future, based on the headlamp levelling switch in the manual?

This post has been edited by mystvearn: Sep 18 2013, 08:40 PM

Proton never been a fav brand

During quality talk people said Toyota best as they call back when they found their car for problem

Where as proton just diam diam

Btw my proton 91k

This post has been edited by edison1437: Sep 18 2013, 09:03 PM

Well, the real value of that non-proton badge is more than 91k anyway

Ermm in suprima s thread still talking about proton high price la...proton bad ni laa proton bad tu laa...we want to share experience owning a new car ...so other owner that still new with it will get something to get use to it.

to open the boot without unlocking the car can be done,but it doesnt look as simple it is as changing the remote module coz it involve the alarm module and bcm function. but i think they noted on ur remarks ;-) n im sure they appreciate it.

Another question to owners, how do you enable the follow home light?

Manual say:

When ignition switch is at ACC position or when the key is removed from ignition switch, within 10 mins, turn the headlight combination lever from off to another position and back to off within 2 secs, headlight will be turned on for 30 secs if all doors are closed.

So this follow home light is only 30 secs?

I still have the "periodic inspection" even after first service. the authorised bengkel said, i need to go to proton official kedai to update the ECU.

Have anyone done their first service. I used fully synthetic oil. and the mechanic said the next service should be done in 10k interval. if I used semi synthetic, have to service every 5k. which one is better actually?

Thanks.

The SA mentioned this to me as well. Which oil better? Which service better? 10k or 5k?

Those who keep on bashing proton please leave the thread. You're not helping anyone for god sake. Let us just discussed about Suprima S here.
Thought i am not a owner of Suprima, I am still very interested with this model.

To owner, do you think the back seat of the car is a little bit small? I personally try it during test drive, it doesn't seems spacious for ppl who sit behind.

First service use fully synthetic already?

Personal opinion on which engine oil:
1) Travel a lot and reach 5k ~ 10k KM easily within specified months -> Semi or fully
2) Don't travel a lot and thus reducing the amount of mileage that will be accumulated within service interval or so -> Semi synthetic

This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Sep 19 2013, 08:35 AM

Well, at least just add another boot symbol next to the unlock symbol.

Another reason for the independent boot release is to prolong the wing mirror motor. A lot of people go shopping, buy stuff, put in boot, then go somewhere else. Sometimes it is just to put stuff in car before going on journey. The only good side I note is that, if wing mirror is not folded = car not locked.

While at it, add another RM100 to the manufacturing process of the glove box for the texture . The problem with the glove box is that it is one big object directly in front of the passenger. For side wall, can get away with the hard plastic, something glaring in front not so. The soft rubber material on the dash so nice already with the good silver trim, ruined by the plastic glove box (taken from persona or was it savvy IINM?). Cost can be balanced (cut) by making the dash 2 types of material, soft rubber nearer to passengers, hard plastic nearer to front window though need to be very careful don't get the fit & finishing wrong with the gaps between the two parts. Another problem with introducing hard plastic is the NVH. The original perdana (before the original v6 and the alfadana nose) has better material than the v6. Better leather, quieter too. Last version Perdana models came with hard plastic and poorer material for doors/console than original ones. Same with Satria GTi. Original Satria GTi is way better than the ones at EOL which came with poorer radio system, awful polka-dot plastic trim at console and a 190 km/h speed limiter. First gen GTi had no speed limiter way better interior.

The other problem with swapping different material is the material thickness. When the car arm rest is configured properly for one set of materials, say leather, then replace with plastic shell, will make the arm rest shorter than previously, ruining the ergonomics of the car. Case point-original perdana with proper leather vs plastic on v6 models. Can swap, need to maintain the ergonomics.

FL version should change the boot release from hook type switch to just button switch. Not a lot of people know/notice that the boot release is electronic. If the same force applied like standard boot release, I can see alot of people returning their SS for switch repairs.

Instant mod to make your better with NVH is actually to line the door bins with rubber/or thin sponge like material on the surface and the side walls. When you put items in there, there don't knock about in the bins making the car noisy. Newest golf has this spongy thing.


Sorry for being picky. This what happens when you drive a lot of conti and jap D segment cars

On another note, I seriously do think there is a market for upgrades like this mini, especially if it does not void your warranty and provided straight from car manufacturer:
http://paultan.org/2013/09/04/mini-now-off...on-headlamp-kit

Same reason why I think, most people will buy the 79k. It is seen as value and that 3k difference is negligible. There may be a market for comfort package accessories rather than just R3 accessories..especially when the roads are jam packed with vehicles anyway.

signing in, T-black received on 12sept

I've done my 1st service yesterday. Decided to use full synthetic since i drive alot. I also requested for them to reset/change my HU language, somehow my current language is in Spanish. But they say they lack the knowledge to do it since that HU just come out. So guys, any idea how to change it back to english?

1. i was anticipating a cooler tailight.

2. the backseat size is ok. on par with cerato, forte, altis.
wider than myvi, jazz ge & pug208.

hope this helps: http://farghmee.wordpress.com/2013/09/02/r...ima-s-interior/

Mine also still showing the periodic inspection. During my service I saw the mechanic struggling in the cabin to reset the thing, trying to reset from the instrument panel, even disconnected the battery to see if the thing resets .

On service interval, the SC recommended semi-syn (5k) until my mileage reaches 20k to better break-in the engine. I followed that recommendation although they did told me if I wanted to they can use fully-syn (10k).

well..i've been driving manual before too.. jumping to auto is nothing serious to me since my wife's car is auto.
nyway, just to share..i really love the VT3.. feels so much smoother compared to the conventional 4speed auto. ive never tried dropping the gear coz the car is new, still sayang to drop like wat i used to with my previous manual ride.hahaha.. maybe u can try dropping the gear using the test drive car?


if u ask me, id prefer the 5k interval engine oil change regardless what engine oil im using. though people say fully synthetic can last up to 10k km.


since its a C-segmen car, the rear seat space is comparable to other C-segmen.
im coming from a B-segmen car, the rear seat is pretty spacious!


y bro? 1st service have to use semi synthetic eh?
advice a bit bro..



not to scare u, but my SA said his showroom unit last time was also in Spanish language. they did ask proton to come change to english but the proton fellar changed the whole HU.

Kinda love the GPS actually.. just that its abit "talkative"

The rear seat is more spacious than Perdana and Waja, and the rear headroon is more than Cerato. I know this because I have sat in all the cars mentioned.

If the condition permits, then the TCU (Transmission Control Unit) will permit you to drop a gear (or two). If the condition doesn't permit to do so, the TCU will never allow you to drop the gear to protect the transmission.

The VT3 has lots of safety mechanism built into it, so no worries.

As for reliability, the VT3 unit is essentially a unit based on VT1, developed by ZF to be used in Mini and MG cars in the early 2000s. Nothing major has been reported by the owners in the net, so it is safe to assume that the reliability is good without counting small cases of manufacturing defect. There's also a few Preve who bring their CVT into the track and no unwanted problems arise after the event.

So glad to hear that. I can place my booking now...

good info here bro! tqvm!

welcome bro!!!

hey i bought a 79k proton long time ago, the satria R3 , then proton stop production of all its spare parts. very nice.

had first service... rm300++ errr is it going to be this expensive onwards?

you took fully syn oil?

is there unnecessary stuff also like Magnatrap and XIR engine treatment thing?

What is part of the service?

I suggest u paste here the receipt..for guidance...

This post has been edited by yaz_inseven: Sep 19 2013, 05:06 PM

Not sure what's Proton recommending for the Suprima S, but to my knowledge it's normally either semi-synthetic or mineral for engine break in. Maybe Proton has already done that .

eh how come so expensive? Mine only RM200 something. Tu pun because I took fully synthetic. Kalau I took semi, I have to pay RM100 something only. Labour charge is free for the first three service. Only needs to pay for the engine oil.

Mine only 190+. Semi syn oil, oil filter and that magnatrap thing.

Currently who is SS owner in JB area ?? Haven seen any SS on road except test drive unit

For those who is interested to understand more about their VT3, you can take a look at this document regarding VT1.

http://www.lib.ucdavis.edu/dept/pse/resour...1F%20040323.pdf

credits to dares for showing me this document earlier on.

This post has been edited by V12Kompressor: Sep 19 2013, 11:55 PM

Link not working?

Ah, sorry. correct link;

http://www.lib.ucdavis.edu/dept/pse/resour...1F%20040323.pdf

Thanks:)

Where is the tyre pressure indicator on the car? I noticed the vehicle information code, but not the tyre pressure. Only found it in the manual book.

a small white sticker paste on the b pillar near the lock latch, front 32, back 30

Luckily you din mistakenly link to pron and tell everyone I showed it you -.-

offtopic. some people cnfius with e01 petronas engine with the new ne01.
e01 is 2L na engine while ne01 has 2L na, 2L turbo n 2.2L turbo. i think they r in the trans intergration phase coz cp phase already finished.

i believe,many will love these engines, high revving compare to campro, being told 2L na rev at 7000 rpm, both 2L turbo and 2.2L turbo around 6500 rpm for max power.

petronas has a patent vvt component which is quite unique. whether prm get this first or others, still pending,the cost perengine is quite high,but if can make debut in prm,then srm,then erm, i think it can justify the cost. hopefully prtn can utilize this engine 1st b4 the china counterpart does.

if not,it will be wasted then. its euro 5,n capable euro 6 engine.

but rest assure,if suprima get this engine,it wont be sooner,n the price will definitely higher.

heard the hnt guys r jumping all around to test the capability of the engine.

sory for off topic too much.but just sharing some news.

nice info

2.2T Omai

What car are they gonna use that in? a SUV/MPV?

for this car...maybe...


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already mentioned, plan for prm,erm n ss. but its only a plan. the engine also will be suplied to china automaker coz previous agreement with them,so need to abide though.

on positive note,can reduce manufacturing cost of the engine n coverup the rnd cost.n some motorcycle engine which can be converted to low cc car pwrtrain.

the direct injection tech which previously dvelop with 1 large auto pwrtrain co also part of interesting tech. but the problem is whether the cost already lower,does it lower enough to put prtn cars. even ss being critisize as expensive,left alone future product to fit with hightec engine.

by the way,punch also already grow to a new height buy vesting with dti,which previous done jv with them. n dti also has some interesting tech. hopefulfy it will be fruitful soon.

Hope this is aluminium block and diesel.

Oh.... i go to the COE showroom.... wan open the boot.. eh tak boleh... SA say sorry battery mati.. boot tak boleh buka... hoorey!

Ask proton change?

It would be easier for you to learn spanish man....

My wife's inspira alrdy 30k km.... the service reminder still set at 5k,,,,