I think, it hard disk problem. In disk management, the hard disk doesn't appear. In device manager also not. When I connect the hard disk, my pc become very slow to boot up. Will try with other pc.

I check N40L wiki page, 3TB is supported.

echo..mine 2TB Green has been on 24x7 almost 20 mths ago.. Planning to get a 4TB in soon..

It was a while ago since I installed my WD Red 3TB onto my N36L. If I recall, I did not have to do anything to it for the Microserver to detect all 4 of them at bootup.

Because of the non existent TLER, it is recommended NOT to use WD green drives. Of course some people manage to use it because their green hardisk did not experience write error situations which would require the drive to pause and take more time to handle write errors. When that happens, the RAID controller thinks there is an error recovery to be made and drops the whole hardisk. This is a nuisance when the drive falls out of the RAID array and forcing rebuilds.

if you (like me) don't RAID the drives it is OK.. more so the Greens that I have right now are actually used for torrent 24x7 .. just to let everyone gauge how far can these Green drive goes...

Thank you. Your answer clarify everything. At first I thought have to install certain bios but after reading through N40L experience, others don't get problem install 3TB like me. So, probably the hard disk rosak because some miss handling during postage. Already contact the seller, and he ask me to wait till Monday so he can clarified with his vendor.

I believe Green drives are ok for NAS that are not in RAID setup. I only dislike them because they are slow. Very evident if you use in desktop PC.

Anyway, before NAS drives like WD Red, I used Samsung F4E 2TB. I have 8 of them (4 in my other N36L and 4 in a an eSATA encosure). I could have also gone with Hitachi drives but they were not available locally.

I assume the enclusre connects to the N36L eSata port? Is the eSata enclosure RAID/NON-RAID? How's the transfer speed in/out of the eSata enclosure like?

No. Not from the N36L eSATA port because the N36L eSATA port is not Port Multiplier aware.

I installed the PCIE x1 eSATA RAID card and connected the external box to it.

It's running RAID. The transfer rate is fast. Just like if it's connected to the internal SATA. But then if I did something more complicated other than transfer files like unZIP or unRAR to that RAID volume in the eSATA enclosure, it will hang ! I think there is a bug somewhere in the RAID card. I transferred TB of files with no problems.

Anyway, that external enclosure is down at the moment. I suspect it's the PSU. My contractor had to switch off the mains because had to do some electrical work and I suspect the off / on /off / on stressed the PSU.

Tks for sharing, especially on the eSata port multiplier bit! I did intend to use it that way before this, but I guess with my usage, having 5 unraid storage drives is more than enuf.. I have to use the pcie now for USB 3.0 port as the onboard LAN port got fried recently during a thunderstorm.. have to find a usb3.0 gigabit lan adapter soon.

guys need suggestions
what is the best NAS can i get for 3k - 5k

use for file storage in a small office (5-6 people)

and where can i get it? LowYat?

Why don't get a HP NC360T PCIe x4 dual GBit network card, mod it to PCIe x1 and install it in the PCIe x4 slot meant for Remote Access Card?



Actually any type of desktop PC can be made into a NAS. Put more hardisk in, do some simple sharing and you're done for a small office setup.

Don't forget to set up for backup. Cheap and fast would be backup to USB 3 or eSATA type of external hardisk.

do you mean slot that into PCIe x16? I don't think N40L has a x4 slot.. Dual port GB card is expensive, and it is hard to find over here. So cheapest route is to get a PCIe usb3 card + a USB3 gigabit adaptor, all in about RM150 ~ .. just need to worry whether they are low profile or not..

This post has been edited by numbertwo: Jan 19 2014, 01:35 AM

No. Not x16 slot. Slot it into the slot meant for Remote Access Card. That one is a PCIe x4.

You can either buy synology / qnap put in hdd and good to go or build your own with that budget.

I own a qnap 469, N54L (Win server 2008 R2), N36L (Xpenology) and latest Gen8 Microserver (Win Server 2012) in my office and house.

My future project is build a intel H87 with Xpenology and retire my N36L

HDD damaged liau. I am using 3TB WD greens without problem. Doubt the Red would be any problems normally either.


Here are a couple of articles and write ups about TLER (summary)

The responses I received from Synology, QNAP, NETGEAR and Buffalo all indicated that their NAS RAID controllers don't depend on or even listen to TLER, CCTL, ERC or any other similar error recovery signal from their drives. Instead, their software RAID controllers have their own criteria for drive timeouts, retries and when a drive is finally marked bad. http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-fea...n-your-raid-nas

Do i need to use TLER or RAID edition harddrives (for ZFS pools) ?
No and if you use TLER you should disable it when using ZFS. TLER is only useful for mission-critical servers who cannot afford to be frozen for 10-60 seconds, and to cope with bad quality RAID controller that panic when a drive is not responding for multiple seconds because its performing recovery on some sector. Do not use TLER with ZFS! Instead, allow the drive to recover its errors. ZFS will wait, the wait time can be configured. You won't have broken RAID arrays, which is common with Windows-based FakeRAID arrays. http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1500505

Actually if you are doing a DIY server way like the microserver, just dont use normal RAID period. THere is no reason not to use ZFS actually.

that works? I though the x4 slot didnt work with x1 cards even if you modded it.
btw u can find dual port pcie NIC on ebay UK for cheap. Posted to malaysia can be as low as RM100. Just look around. I managed to pick up a quad port intel i350 from the garage sales last time too.

This post has been edited by CocoMonGo: Jan 20 2014, 12:16 AM

Hi, I'm looking for a reliable NAS for my office that have these function.

1. File sharing through Internet and mobile phone
2. Storing database for UBS accounting and allow remote access
3. User access rights function

Anyone can recommend me any brand or model. Thanks

wd mybooklive have mobile app,user access right..very easy to setup

thanks guys
i think i will take WD MyEx4

Hi,
The perception that cheaper NAS can't handle the processing requirement of DLNA server is not true at all. The Dlink DNS-320L has a 1Ghz processor which is more than enough to stream 1080p movies without any problem. I'm using a earlier model DNS-320 (800Mhz processor), it also can handle 1080p streaming without any issue at all. However, I don't quite like the stock software that comes with it, hence I loaded extra software from http://nas-tweaks.net/, and I'm using minidlna to become the DLNA server. I've about 1 TB of movies served out by minidlna to my Samsung 40" DLNA client/renderer. Read more and backup before you do anything with your stock NAS, please don't come and look for me if you screwed up your NAS after tweaking stuffs. I screwed up many times before getting it right.

Yes, you are correct. You will need some fundamental linux skills to understand the steps but it is not difficult.

No, not true at all as I've mentioned above.

My problem with hard disk, solved. Hard disk problem. Today I received new hard disk from seller and it works without any mod with my N40L.

This post has been edited by qwerty79: Jan 24 2014, 02:57 PM