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post Jan 11 2014, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Jan 11 2014, 09:17 PM)
Finally I bought N40L. Installed 4.3 DSM (Xpenology) in it and it works!

Not so hard, pretty straight forward with a bit of minor problem at the beginning. I can't detect the microserver but after that, everything run smooth.

Currently only run with one 250Gb hard disk. Surely will add more in the coming week/month. Thinking of running 2 small capacity hard disk with raid 1 (for important data), and 2 x 3TB with JBOD (movies, etc). But don't know to get just green or go to red hd? Hard disk is pricey here, 2TB already reach rm350 for WD Green (not av).
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Where you bought your N40L from?
How much it cost?
What media you used to boot the DSM? USB pendrive? hmm.gif
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post Jan 12 2014, 05:51 AM

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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Jan 11 2014, 09:17 PM)
Finally I bought N40L. Installed 4.3 DSM (Xpenology) in it and it works!

Not so hard, pretty straight forward with a bit of minor problem at the beginning. I can't detect the microserver but after that, everything run smooth.

Currently only run with one 250Gb hard disk. Surely will add more in the coming week/month. Thinking of running 2 small capacity hard disk with raid 1 (for important data), and 2 x 3TB with JBOD (movies, etc). But don't know to get just green or go to red hd? Hard disk is pricey here, 2TB already reach rm350 for WD Green (not av).
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Wah, congrats ! rclxms.gif

Never knew you would take the Microserver and Xpenology advise seriously.

Anyway, for NAS, go for WD Red. Avoid WD Green if you can.

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jan 11 2014, 11:34 PM)
Where you bought your N40L from?
How much it cost?
What media you used to boot the DSM? USB pendrive? hmm.gif
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I think he mentioned it earlier? 800 from Lelong?

With the Xpenology, I believe you need to boot from Pendrive.
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post Jan 12 2014, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jan 11 2014, 11:34 PM)
Where you bought your N40L from?
How much it cost?
What media you used to boot the DSM? USB pendrive? hmm.gif
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Yeah yeah, tell us how much and buy from where!!! We go shopping stampede!!! tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 12 2014, 05:51 AM)
Wah, congrats !  rclxms.gif

Never knew you would take the Microserver and Xpenology advise seriously.

Anyway, for NAS, go for WD Red. Avoid WD Green if you can.
I think he mentioned it earlier? 800 from Lelong?

With the Xpenology, I believe you need to boot from Pendrive.
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Oopss...missed that...must be this

http://www.lelong.com.my/hp-micro-g7-n40l-...4-01-Sale-P.htm

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post Jan 12 2014, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jan 11 2014, 11:34 PM)
Where you bought your N40L from?
How much it cost?
What media you used to boot the DSM? USB pendrive? hmm.gif
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Yup, bought from lelong. Double from my original budget. sad.gif. But it really worth it if compare to other 4-5 bay NAS out there.
I just followed guide from Xpenology forum.
You need Usb thumdrive to boot and of course a hard drive. Another thing, you also need another pc installed with synology assistant (get it from their website) connect to the same LAN with the microserver.

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post Jan 12 2014, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 12 2014, 05:51 AM)
Wah, congrats !  rclxms.gif

Never knew you would take the Microserver and Xpenology advise seriously.

Anyway, for NAS, go for WD Red. Avoid WD Green if you can.
I think he mentioned it earlier? 800 from Lelong?

With the Xpenology, I believe you need to boot from Pendrive.
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Actually, I want to buy the server since last year but need to fund other project first. Only this time have enough budget biggrin.gif .
Plus, this is my first time I read it can run on Synology DSM, so eager to try it. I got poison by you lah doh.gif .
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post Jan 12 2014, 11:43 AM

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Guys, I noticed the recent DSM update caused the missing USBSHARE in the filestation. It was accessible before, so I could sedut the downloaded from NAS at faster rate. Now I need to relied on the wireless/wired transfer via laptop. Such a pain in the a** lah. Anybody faced similar issue ?
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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Jan 12 2014, 09:30 AM)
Yup, bought from lelong. Double from my original budget. sad.gif. But it really worth it if compare to other 4-5 bay NAS out there.
I just followed guide from Xpenology forum.
You need Usb thumdrive to boot and of course a hard drive. Another thing, you also need another pc installed with synology assistant (get it from their website) connect to the same LAN with the microserver.
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Hmm..but all this hacking thingy...will the data be safe in the event of crash and recoverable???? hmm.gif
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post Jan 12 2014, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 12 2014, 09:18 PM)
Hmm..but all this hacking thingy...will the data be safe in the event of crash and recoverable????  hmm.gif
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About that, I done some reading in Xpenology forum. Lots of people had use the setup for over a year without any problem. A good thing about late comer is most thing already sort out. But because this is not official from Synology, any can happen.

I believe it is safe to use. DSM is base on linux system. So if anything happen, some data can be access with other linux pc.
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post Jan 13 2014, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Jan 12 2014, 09:39 AM)
Actually, I want to buy the server since last year but need to fund other project first. Only this time have enough budget  biggrin.gif .
Plus, this is my first time I read it can run on Synology DSM, so eager to try it. I got poison by you lah  doh.gif .
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 12 2014, 09:18 PM)
Hmm..but all this hacking thingy...will the data be safe in the event of crash and recoverable????  hmm.gif
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Actually I would not consider it as hacking since it's open source. There's no support directly from Synology (as expected) but the software is the same one used by them. So if it's not safe on Xpenology, it would not be safe on Synology DSM also.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 13 2014, 08:49 AM)
Don't kill the messenger !  tongue.gif
Actually I would not consider it as hacking since it's open source. There's no support directly from Synology (as expected) but the software is the same one used by them. So if it's not safe on Xpenology, it would not be safe on Synology DSM also.
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If I pull out a raid 1 disk from the synology, will I be able to read the data by puttiing it into a pc?
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 13 2014, 09:00 AM)
If I pull out a raid 1 disk from the synology, will I be able to read the data by puttiing it into a pc?
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I'm assuming you're on a Windows PC?

Since the file format from the Synology is EXT4 linux system, you need to download something like this.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 13 2014, 11:16 AM)
I'm assuming you're on a Windows PC?

Since the file format from the Synology is EXT4 linux system, you need to download something like this.
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Thanks for the info. This is what i want to know! notworthy.gif
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post Jan 13 2014, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 12 2014, 05:51 AM)
Wah, congrats !  rclxms.gif

Never knew you would take the Microserver and Xpenology advise seriously.

Anyway, for NAS, go for WD Red. Avoid WD Green if you can.
I think he mentioned it earlier? 800 from Lelong?

With the Xpenology, I believe you need to boot from Pendrive.
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I plan only to switch on my microserver when ever I'm available at home, 6pm-7am and don't plan for 24/7. So, will Green do the job or still better go for RED? Red is non existent here, even for Green AV is hard to get here.
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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Jan 13 2014, 02:42 PM)
I plan only to switch on my microserver when ever I'm available at home, 6pm-7am and don't plan for 24/7. So, will Green do the job or still better go for RED? Red is non existent here, even for Green AV is hard to get here.
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Green is just fine.
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post Jan 13 2014, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Jan 13 2014, 02:42 PM)
I plan only to switch on my microserver when ever I'm available at home, 6pm-7am and don't plan for 24/7. So, will Green do the job or still better go for RED? Red is non existent here, even for Green AV is hard to get here.
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Actually contrary to popular belief, switching the hardisk on and off is more stressful than just leaving them powered on.
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post Jan 14 2014, 12:29 AM

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For the first time, one of my drive is degraded today. Got to quickly get a replacement tomorrow. sweat.gif

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post Jan 14 2014, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 14 2014, 12:29 AM)
For the first time, one of my drive is degraded today. Got to quickly get a replacement tomorrow.  sweat.gif

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Hope you get it sorted out. Rebuild of that size would take days I reckon. If I recall, SHR or RAID 5 does not give any redundancy during a rebuild. Best is to make sure the Synology gets a UPS hooked up during the rebuild.

Usually with that amount of array size involved, it would have been better to stick with SHR-2 or RAID 6 that allows for 2 drives to fail. Yeah, you loose space from 2 hardisk instead of just 1 with SHR or RAID 5.
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post Jan 16 2014, 07:29 AM

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Got the volume repaired after 30 hours odd based on log...
What UPS would you recommend for Synology? I see the choices are bit limited locally.

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 16 2014, 07:29 AM)
Got the volume repaired after 30 hours odd based on log...
What UPS would you recommend for Synology? I see the choices are bit limited locally.

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For play safe, get the APC. It able to talk to your Synology.

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