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post Jan 4 2014, 10:43 AM

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Any dlink user tried out the cloud function?
I tried to access from my phone browser. It can reach the login page but can't login, no response. It also doesnt show the default system administrator id like if I accesss locally from home. However, I can access the Nas fine using a dlink app downloaded from google play for my Android phone! rclxub.gif
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post Jan 7 2014, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jan 3 2014, 03:19 PM)
I bought it around the first batch of microserver so RM900 incl. keyboard/dvd-rom/mouse, It's using the non-standard PSU size and it's costly!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-150W-Microserve...=item20dd34d7de

I will DIY if my PSU mati...

for the next question, it really depends on what you are looking for... I'm looking for something more towards power effecientcy which Microserver helps alot! for torrent/file server it's more than enough...
I wanted to get the card, but come to think of it, I don't know when the server will die since it has been running for 3 years +...

the addon is good to manage the server remotely since my box is not connect to any LCD/Keyboard. It is hard to troubleshoot if I couldn't reach the microserver on OS level.

Gen8 microserver built in HP iLO which has been management than this card. Still thinking about upgrading the box  biggrin.gif
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If N40L for RM800 is okay or expensive? Only the server, no kboard and dvd-rom.

Actually planning to buy dlink NAS (320l or 327L) but after reading some of the comment in this thread, specially with streaming HD movies, thinking of add more to my budget and get this micro server. I read some where that total load for this server only <20w.
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post Jan 7 2014, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Jan 7 2014, 02:01 PM)
If N40L for RM800 is okay or expensive? Only the server, no kboard and dvd-rom.

Actually planning to buy dlink NAS (320l or 327L) but after reading some of the comment in this thread, specially with streaming HD movies, thinking of add more to my budget and get this micro server. I read some where that total load for this server only <20w.
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i'm running 1x1TB (OS), 2x 2TB Green 24x7, i remember the measurement was around 32w-35w

The complete package shud come with a dvdrom too. I have mine and its left behind collecting dust, anyone wants it??
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post Jan 8 2014, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Jan 7 2014, 02:01 PM)
If N40L for RM800 is okay or expensive? Only the server, no kboard and dvd-rom.

Actually planning to buy dlink NAS (320l or 327L) but after reading some of the comment in this thread, specially with streaming HD movies, thinking of add more to my budget and get this micro server. I read some where that total load for this server only <20w.
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Hard to say. Depending if you're desperate enough to want it. How much memory and what's the size of the boot drive?

But then again, for that money, you cannot find anything close to it in terms of flexibility and power. You should be able to do what you intend to do.

QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 7 2014, 02:21 PM)
i'm running 1x1TB (OS), 2x 2TB Green 24x7,  i remember the measurement was around 32w-35w

The complete package shud come with a dvdrom too.  I have mine and its left behind collecting dust, anyone wants it??
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Wah, you're underutilising your Microserver man. laugh.gif

Yeah, I have 2 DVDROMs. With USB thumbdrives, DVDROMs nowadays redundant.
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post Jan 8 2014, 09:17 AM

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To microserver user:
Since you put windows on it...how do I acess the Nas from webbrowser from other clients? Is there a softwarle for easy administration via web browser like a typical NAS interface? I dont want remote acess to the microserver and complicated management.

tq
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post Jan 8 2014, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 7 2014, 02:21 PM)
i'm running 1x1TB (OS), 2x 2TB Green 24x7,  i remember the measurement was around 32w-35w

The complete package shud come with a dvdrom too.  I have mine and its left behind collecting dust, anyone wants it??
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Wow, such a waste, mind sell me cheap cheap? tongue.gif
Maybe we can discuss this further in PM. nod.gif

Anyway, regards the Microserver, can the DVD-ROM be made into another drive bay? (Use normal SATA HDD/SSD)
If not mistaken the drive bay still retain the 5.25" for N54L, the latest Gen8 seems to use the slim DVD drive, saw it at HP website.
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post Jan 8 2014, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 8 2014, 12:12 AM)
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Wah, you're underutilising your Microserver man.  laugh.gif

Yeah, I have 2 DVDROMs. With USB thumbdrives, DVDROMs nowadays redundant.
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haha..yeah u are right.. its used for mainly as a torrent box, VM, media storage and a few background tasks.. biggrin.gif But I still prefer this over the Synology to be honest.. like you say, endless possibilities on this Microserver


QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jan 8 2014, 09:26 AM)
Wow, such a waste, mind sell me cheap cheap? tongue.gif
Maybe we can discuss this further in PM. nod.gif

Anyway, regards the Microserver, can the DVD-ROM be made into another drive bay? (Use normal SATA HDD/SSD)
If not mistaken the drive bay still retain the 5.25" for N54L, the latest Gen8 seems to use the slim DVD drive, saw it at HP website.
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Ok, RM50/-, take it??

yes, i think most microserver users here already converted the 5.25 optical bay into the 5th HDD slot.. see mine :

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post Jan 8 2014, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 8 2014, 09:17 AM)
To microserver user:
Since you put windows on it...how do I acess the Nas from webbrowser from other clients? Is there a softwarle for easy administration via web browser like a typical NAS interface? I dont want remote acess to the microserver and complicated management.

tq
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Hmmm... There is none. Unless you install something like Synology's DSM in your Microserver.

Anyway, since it's just file sharing / streaming, what do you consider complicated in the management? Treat it just like another PC.

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jan 8 2014, 09:26 AM)
Wow, such a waste, mind sell me cheap cheap? tongue.gif
Maybe we can discuss this further in PM. nod.gif

Anyway, regards the Microserver, can the DVD-ROM be made into another drive bay? (Use normal SATA HDD/SSD)
If not mistaken the drive bay still retain the 5.25" for N54L, the latest Gen8 seems to use the slim DVD drive, saw it at HP website.
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Yes, it's a normal type DVDROM unlike the slim DVDROM notebook type on Gen 8.

QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 8 2014, 10:11 AM)
haha..yeah u are right.. its used for mainly as  a torrent box, VM, media storage and a few background tasks.. biggrin.gif  But I still prefer this over the Synology to be honest.. like you say, endless possibilities on this Microserver
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Got to confess that I do have a Synology box myself. blush.gif Since I foresee myself expanding over time, could not resist having 12 drives in one unit.

QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 8 2014, 10:11 AM)
yes, i think most microserver users here already converted the 5.25 optical bay into the 5th HDD slot.. see mine :

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You run online monopoly ah on the server? biggrin.gif

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post Jan 8 2014, 10:33 AM

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post Jan 8 2014, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 8 2014, 12:12 AM)
Hard to say. Depending if you're desperate enough to want it. How much memory and what's the size of the boot drive?

But then again, for that money, you cannot find anything close to it in terms of flexibility and power. You should be able to do what you intend to do.
Wah, you're underutilising your Microserver man.  laugh.gif

Yeah, I have 2 DVDROMs. With USB thumbdrives, DVDROMs nowadays redundant.
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Thinking of building DIY NAS but with price of hardware here in Kuantan much more expensive than KL, thinking of buying this microserver.
Here Dlink 320 (Old model) price at rm380, imagine the price for qnap or synology. Not much choice here.

The microserver price I get is from lelong. Only 2 left.
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post Jan 8 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 8 2014, 10:11 AM)
Ok, RM50/-, take it??

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Is that DVD-ROM or the Microserver?
Don't think you'll let go the Microserver at this price?


QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Jan 8 2014, 10:34 AM)
Thinking of building DIY NAS but with price of hardware here in Kuantan much more expensive than KL, thinking of buying this microserver.
Here Dlink 320 (Old model) price at rm380, imagine the price for qnap or synology. Not much choice here.

The microserver price I get is from lelong. Only 2 left.
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Yeah, even in Kuching, Sarawak here, the only good retail shop with latest variety is PC Image, and that's the price is also goat dang high; RM450 for Dlink 327L, and only that model available. Saw the Qnap/Synology 4-bay at PC City and it was cut-throat RM3k+ if not mistaken, few hundred RM different, sigh, obviously this run-down town will never get fair price treatment (shipment expensive la, bla bla bla...) doh.gif

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post Jan 8 2014, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 8 2014, 10:30 AM)
Hmmm... There is none. Unless you install something like Synology's DSM in your Microserver.

Anyway, since it's just file sharing / streaming, what do you consider complicated in the management? Treat it just like another PC.
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That's what i don't want...startup windows, point here and there...a typical NAS interface is much easier to use. There is a free app for doing this, it's called FREENAS.

http://www.freenas.org/

i haven't have chance to test it since i don't have the hardware...maybe if you guys have old spare PC, can try it out.

Hmm...maybe i should source some old PC from Garage sales and turn it into a NAS...but then again...it will be bulky...hmm.gif

==UPDATE===
http://www.lelong.com.my/hp-proliant-micro...4-01-Sale-P.htm

RM 1,980.00
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post Jan 8 2014, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 8 2014, 01:36 PM)
That's what i don't want...startup windows, point here and there...a typical NAS interface is much easier to use. There is a free app for doing this, it's called FREENAS.

http://www.freenas.org/

i haven't have chance to test it since i don't have the hardware...maybe if you guys have old spare PC, can try it out.

Hmm...maybe i should source some old PC from Garage sales and turn it into a NAS...but then again...it will be bulky...hmm.gif
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I think some sifus here tried Freenas before. I have not. But from what I've read, it's slow. Windows is faster.

You can also try Synology DSM. Very polished interface. I've used the DSM interface in a real Synology DS2413+ and I like ti a lot but not installed it in a Microserver. Apparently the DSM performance in the Microserver is comparable to Synology's own high end hardware.

QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 8 2014, 01:36 PM)
Of course that one expensive. Gen8 runs on Intel.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 8 2014, 02:16 PM)
I think some sifus here tried Freenas before. I have not. But from what I've read, it's slow. Windows is faster.

You can also try Synology DSM. Very polished interface. I've used the DSM interface in a real Synology DS2413+ and I like ti a lot but not installed it in a Microserver. Apparently the DSM performance in the Microserver is comparable to Synology's own high end hardware.
Of course that one expensive. Gen8 runs on Intel.
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You can download Synology DSM (stands for what?) and use on other PC? Where can download? Synology website??
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 8 2014, 02:40 PM)
You can download Synology DSM (stands for what?) and use on other PC? Where can download? Synology website??
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Found one article with details on how to get the Synology DSM into a PC (Microserver).
Interesting but very troublesome overall for the first time setup.

Click here

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 8 2014, 02:40 PM)
You can download Synology DSM (stands for what?) and use on other PC? Where can download? Synology website??
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Disk Station Manager

Yeah, wildwestgoh gave a link. I believe there are a lot more links if you google up that talks about Xpenology.

http://xpenology.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jan 8 2014, 04:01 PM)
Found one article with details on how to get the Synology DSM into a PC (Microserver).
Interesting but very troublesome overall for the first time setup.

Click here
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rclxms.gif I have not tried it yet but the gains truly outweigh the effort put in.
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post Jan 9 2014, 10:48 PM

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For a light user ; just file storage, auto backup and media streaming

caveat is I've guests who drop by quite frequently and don't want them to have instant access to my files.

what would be the recommendation ? Network with a mix of Macs and Windows. Been looking at synology , reviews have been good but any tips for the sifus here ?

p/s: previously was looking at apple time capsule so ease of setup is a must tongue.gif
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QUOTE(corad @ Jan 9 2014, 10:48 PM)
For a light user ; just file storage, auto backup and media streaming

caveat is I've guests who drop by quite frequently and don't want them to have instant access to my files.

what would be the recommendation ? Network with a mix of Macs and Windows. Been looking at synology , reviews have been good but any tips for the sifus here ?

p/s: previously was looking at apple time capsule so ease of setup is a must  tongue.gif
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Best to get Synology as I doubt Windows will have easy access to Apple products (Apple is stingy after all).
Synology is easy to setup as long as you don't care about their other features than just storing files, user level access can be setup to prevent guest access (instant access).
I'm not a Synology user so I'm not so sure how many screens to get the NAS working, maybe some other sifus here can post their experience.
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QUOTE(corad @ Jan 9 2014, 10:48 PM)
For a light user ; just file storage, auto backup and media streaming

caveat is I've guests who drop by quite frequently and don't want them to have instant access to my files.

what would be the recommendation ? Network with a mix of Macs and Windows. Been looking at synology , reviews have been good but any tips for the sifus here ?

p/s: previously was looking at apple time capsule so ease of setup is a must  tongue.gif
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Hi,
I am new Synology DS213j user and i am having iMac + Windows 8 environment too.
I am very happy with my purchase and the file sharing, streaming from android tv box, ipad, iphone are so easy and smooth.
Synology DS213j is supporting Time Machine backup too and support AFP, SMB, NFS so the configuration for any PC or tablet is very easy.
feel free to ask me if you have any question smile.gif

If you want to see how to setup Synology NAS (HW & Configuration), you can refer to this youtube playlist.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8DC9A6392AD66D7F


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post Jan 11 2014, 09:17 PM

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Finally I bought N40L. Installed 4.3 DSM (Xpenology) in it and it works!

Not so hard, pretty straight forward with a bit of minor problem at the beginning. I can't detect the microserver but after that, everything run smooth.

Currently only run with one 250Gb hard disk. Surely will add more in the coming week/month. Thinking of running 2 small capacity hard disk with raid 1 (for important data), and 2 x 3TB with JBOD (movies, etc). But don't know to get just green or go to red hd? Hard disk is pricey here, 2TB already reach rm350 for WD Green (not av).



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