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 NETWORK ATTACHED STORAGE (NAS) V2

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post Jan 25 2023, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 25 2023, 09:49 AM)
Yup. i3 is more than enough. You will need at least i3-10100 for streaming server though. 4 cores is minimum requirements.
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Wow i3-10100
budget quite constraint, btw tq for suggestion and feedback
might need to save more then
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post Jan 25 2023, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Jan 25 2023, 09:43 AM)
Hi guys
I just discovered this tread

I am planning to buy synology previously, but after research I think better if i do DIY style (buy second had used PC and install TrueNas)
And I require good enough processor and at same time energy efficient
What do you think about i3 4160? is it ok?

Planning to use it as my home Plex server & media storage
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Also, make sure your CPU model supported Intel Quick Sync for transcoding feature.

Generally that should be available except for for F series CPU.
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post Jan 25 2023, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Jan 25 2023, 09:43 AM)
Hi guys
I just discovered this tread

I am planning to buy synology previously, but after research I think better if i do DIY style (buy second had used PC and install TrueNas)
And I require good enough processor and at same time energy efficient
What do you think about i3 4160? is it ok?

Planning to use it as my home Plex server & media storage
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Prebuilt NAS is energy efficient as that is one of the thing it was designed for. Custom built you need to research which CPU, MOBO and PSU that will be energy efficient.

As for Plex usage, if you need it to decode first before stream, make sure to get CPU that support hardware decoding. Older CPU does not support hardware decoding for HEVC/h.265
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post Jan 25 2023, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jan 25 2023, 11:21 AM)
Also, make sure your CPU model supported Intel Quick Sync for transcoding feature.

Generally that should be available except for for F series CPU.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jan 25 2023, 11:28 AM)
Prebuilt NAS is energy efficient as that is one of the thing it was designed for. Custom built you need to research which CPU, MOBO and PSU that will be energy efficient.

As for Plex usage, if you need it to decode first before stream, make sure to get CPU that support hardware decoding. Older CPU does not support hardware decoding for HEVC/h.265
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Understood
So next i need to find CPU that support hardware decoding/quick sync
LIST OF CPU.
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post Jan 25 2023, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Jan 25 2023, 02:08 PM)
Understood
So next i need to find CPU that support hardware decoding/quick sync
LIST OF CPU.
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Hardware transcoding for plex would need to subscribe to plex pass
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post Mar 2 2023, 10:58 AM

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looking to see anyone spot any deals for 6tb NAS drives this lzd sales, please tag me

is 6tb the best bang for the buck still or 8tb/10tb?

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post Mar 3 2023, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Mar 2 2023, 10:58 AM)
looking to see anyone spot any deals for 6tb NAS drives this lzd sales, please tag me

is 6tb the best bang for the buck still or 8tb/10tb?
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I saw cheapest 8TB is Toshiba N300, below RM800
Last time bought almost RM1000
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post Mar 3 2023, 09:55 PM

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cheap, but seems like not local seagate warranty units
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Mar 3 2023, 09:55 PM)
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cheap, but seems like not local seagate warranty units
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I also almost pulled the trigger from this seller, for 8TB EXOS below RM800
But the offer sounds too good to be true, after search online it seems easy to wipe SMART info of a HDD and repackaged as new.
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post Mar 6 2023, 12:13 AM

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Hi guys I'm planning to get a NAS for backing client datas for my freelance computer repair services, but can't decide between getting a HDD or SSD for backups, SSD for the speed so I can back up the data at the fastest speed and start working on the hardware, or HDD for the price and capacity, any computer repair professionals care to enlighten me?
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QUOTE(viqq @ Mar 6 2023, 12:13 AM)
Hi guys I'm planning to get a NAS for backing client datas for my freelance computer repair services, but can't decide between getting a HDD or SSD for backups, SSD for the speed so I can back up the data at the fastest speed and start working on the hardware, or HDD for the price and capacity, any computer repair professionals care to enlighten me?
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u do repair service n u dint know remote nas... then better dun do.. ppl put ssd into nas for cache.. maintaining nas is not easy unless u put effort into study it
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Mar 3 2023, 09:44 PM)
I saw cheapest 8TB is Toshiba N300, below RM800
Last time bought almost RM1000
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Even now 14TB for N300 is only RM14xx new. But seems only Toshiba NAS drive u can get it at these prices, WD or Seagate is just so much more expensive.
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Mar 6 2023, 08:20 AM)
u do repair service n u dint know remote nas... then better dun do.. ppl put ssd into nas for cache.. maintaining nas is not easy unless u put effort into study it
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I seriously have no clues at all in dealing with NAS backups as I've never owned them before, I always do it the old school way which is backing up to an external HDD, cloning to another HDD etc. and I usually ask them to backup their own data. But recently getting more interests from friends and family asking me for repairs, thus considering getting a NAS for back ups and up the ante.

My idea is to back up customers data at the fastest speed, and start working on the hardware / OS reinstallation. Guess my idea wouldn't work then?
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QUOTE(viqq @ Mar 6 2023, 11:51 PM)
I seriously have no clues at all in dealing with NAS backups as I've never owned them before, I always do it the old school way which is backing up to an external HDD, cloning to another HDD etc. and I usually ask them to backup their own data. But recently getting more interests from friends and family asking me for repairs, thus considering getting a NAS for back ups and up the ante.

My idea is to back up customers data at the fastest speed, and start working on the hardware / OS reinstallation. Guess my idea wouldn't work then?
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no matter ssd or hdd, you will be bottlenecked by your NAS LAN speed.
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post Mar 7 2023, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 7 2023, 09:43 AM)
no matter ssd or hdd, you will be bottlenecked by your NAS LAN speed.
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Alright I get the point. Thanks for the input guys, appreciate it.
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QUOTE(viqq @ Mar 7 2023, 10:48 AM)
Alright I get the point. Thanks for the input guys, appreciate it.
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if given a chance, how you would upgrade your hardware moving forward?
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QUOTE(viqq @ Mar 6 2023, 11:51 PM)
I seriously have no clues at all in dealing with NAS backups as I've never owned them before, I always do it the old school way which is backing up to an external HDD, cloning to another HDD etc. and I usually ask them to backup their own data. But recently getting more interests from friends and family asking me for repairs, thus considering getting a NAS for back ups and up the ante.

My idea is to back up customers data at the fastest speed, and start working on the hardware / OS reinstallation. Guess my idea wouldn't work then?
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i think ur idea was to cloud hosting.. not nas.. nas slower than cloud.. alot.. however u need to hv enuf clients for u to sustain ur service.. mostly cloud hosting charge annually..
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Mar 7 2023, 02:57 PM)
i think ur idea was to cloud hosting.. not nas.. nas slower than cloud.. alot.. however u need to hv enuf clients for u to sustain ur service.. mostly cloud hosting charge annually..
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You are generalizing too much on cloud hosting part. It depends on the cloud hardware and infrastructure itself if you want to make speed comparisons. Speed of concurrent transfers? Speed of the host processing? Shared host? Dedicated host? etc. The cloud hosts also charges based on level of services.

NAS utilising fast hardware will get you similar or better performance compared to cloud hostings, such as by having 10Gbps connection, fast processor, running nvme storage, etc.

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 7 2023, 09:56 PM)
You are generalizing too much on cloud hosting part. It depends on the cloud hardware and infrastructure itself if you want to make speed comparisons. Speed of concurrent transfers? Speed of the host processing? Shared host? Dedicated host? etc. The cloud hosts also charges based on level of services.

NAS utilising fast hardware will get you similar or better performance compared to cloud hostings, such as by having 10Gbps connection, fast processor, running nvme storage, etc.
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tat T's hvnt done remote nas b4.. i just speculating his intention..
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post Mar 8 2023, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Mar 6 2023, 09:00 AM)
Even now 14TB for N300 is only RM14xx new. But seems only Toshiba NAS drive u can get it at these prices, WD or Seagate is just so much more expensive.
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Yup, WD and Seagate price a lot difference than Toshiba. I bought Toshiba last time to try and mix of brands and after see no problem with it now continue sticking with it. Below RM100 per TB cannot get from other brand.

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