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post Jan 2 2014, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jan 2 2014, 07:55 AM)
Oh... good info, didn't know Android uses UPNP to stream, kinda stupid to force the NAS to work harder, read directly using SMB is a better choice I think, just like using the ES File Explorer.
Can you now seek the movie without pause too much? (Jump chapters, forward)
You using Gbps LAN right?  hmm.gif
DNS-327L uses some very low-end embedded CPU (Marvell Armada 300: http://www.marvell.com/embedded-processors/armada-300/) sweat.gif
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Sharing my experience of streaming HD files (max file is 35GB 1080p bluray remux) from my NAS. Using Dlink DNS-343 (2Tb*4) and my latest addition is Seagate BlackArmor 440 (3Tb*4), both on RAID-5.

Both streaming HD files with no lags at all, using SMB. All other services is turned off. Using DNS 343 for the last 3 years+ with no issues. Despite what other people ranted about the BlackArmor, I find no issues on stability so far, except for the power adapter dead within 1st week of usage (decided to get a reputable 3rd party power adapter instead of claiming warranty, beggars cannot be choosers for a cheapo 4 bay NAS on sale RM599). Yes, the write speed is slower than average NAS but read speed is good enough for HD streaming and that is all that matters for a NAS with redundancy feature for me. Just make sure firmware is updated to latest beforehand. I stream on Gb LAN and 5Ghz Wifi. Playback devices are Windows based PC with Windows Media Center, and low powered machine using XBMC.

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post Jan 2 2014, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 2 2014, 09:59 AM)
Nice Sharing! thumbup.gif

Hmm...this BlackArmor thingy, never see in shops....is it not available anymore?
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viewnet stock clearance in lowyat. bought it last month thumbup.gif

i did a test for the RAID feature before I confidently dumped my data into it. copying 100GB data to it, and during halfway operation I unplugged one of the HDD. copying persists but warning on the LCD and console (also to my email) that RAID degraded. After finished copying with only 3 HDD, I replugged the 4th HDD, it rebuilds flawlessly. After rebuild I shut down and repowered, the system still works as intended.

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post Jan 2 2014, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 2 2014, 12:35 PM)
If you are going with RAID 5, I would suggeat you back up your precious photos and videos elsewhere.  If the NAS die...all your data in HDD bye bye...if Raid 1, you still can pull it out and use as standalone disk elsewhere.
Anyay..Rm600 cheap...what is the write speed you achieved?
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not really bye bye, can rebuild it on a PC with recovery software brows.gif

achieved writespeed 15MB/s averagely sweat.gif took me around 5 days to transfer all 7Tb of data

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 2 2014, 01:32 PM)
Is it? Never tried before. But you need to connect all 4 HHD to recover and rebuld the RAID? Still, it's dangerous, don't want to take suh risks with my precious data. If downloaded movies never mind...don't even bother to RAID...just dump all in a USB Box only. Can always download back...tongue.gif

15MB/s...i think about same rate with the 320L....best can go up to 20MB/s i think.
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Using any 3 out of the 4 hdd will do in order to recover the stripped data. any type of setup also will have risk, up to us to weigh the risk factor.

yes, the speed is pretty similar to 320L but 320L in my experience can have a much higher read throughput compared to the seagate black armor. (20-25MB/s for blackarmor vs 30-35MB/s 320L)

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 2 2014, 01:55 PM)
What software do you use for the recovery?

Yeah, under certain condition the 320L can read up to 60MB/s...i think depends on file size...smaller files/bigger files will affect the speed. I remember i can achieve 40MB/s to 60MB/s from the 320l when copying to my USB 3.0 box connected to my PC.
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R-Studio is one of the recovery software that works for me.

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 2 2014, 03:44 PM)
I think best bang for the buck is the HP Microserver. N36L or N40L if you can still get them Can run your own choice of OS and in a way not subjected to proprietary software in the event of a recovery. Upgrade memory and be close to a powerful higher budgeted NAS.
How long did it take to rebuild?
15MB/s?  sweat.gif
2MB/s? If your internet bandwidth is fast enough, use that instead. If the data is not important, you can always redownload.
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yes, i know the 'want' for speed in writing, lol. but seriously, it's enough for storage and I do not expect miracles from RM599 stuff. The read speed is good enough for me to stream HD without hiccups/lags, that's all that matters to me thumbup.gif i tested rebuild for 2TB of data, takes around 16 hours.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 2 2014, 07:03 PM)
Sounds like very good option...RM600 for a 4 bay NAS!!!
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but where to buy? brows.gif
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ozak better swap out other WD Red units soon. In my experience, they are usually prone to failure at the end or after the warranty period. I bought several synology NAS (deployed in SMEs) with these WD REDs installed and all failed similarly. Never again, will only purchase Iron Wolfs in the future.
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Apr 7 2020, 12:44 AM)
I build a budget NAS with WD Green 8 years ago thinking cheaper HDD with RAID-1 is okay for data... biggest mistake in my life... I've lost 4TB of valuable data due to 2 HDD fallen apart within a week... I didn't have time to go to lowyat to get another hdd due to week days...

the other WD Green failed during weekend... Since after that... all my important data goes to cloud... rather trust cloud...
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There is a trick to prolong the green drives, you just need to disable the head parking timer using the wdidle3.exe file. The green firmware is so aggressively parking the head of the drives that it decreases the lifespan significantly faster. I have 4 units of 3TB green with disabled the head parking setting and they still runs in my NAS until today since 2012.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Apr 22 2020, 10:38 AM)
I just googled, there is no internal web browser for DSM?  sweat.gif
It also don't have GDrive add-on package to sync google drive with NAS?
If torrent also can reach 100mbps download then means it have no problem to reach max speed. thumbup.gif
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1. no browser due to security issues.
2. there is a gdrive sync app, it's called cloud sync
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post Jan 2 2022, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jan 2 2022, 04:13 PM)
Stock from Phone line to Huawei Silver modem --> TP LINK AX1500 --> Synology
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phone line? are you on streamyx?

if unifi, it should be fiber to ONU (huawei) -> TPLINK router -> Synology.

Also, the DDNS may not work due to Private IP:

TM Begins Migration For Select Unifi Customers From Public To Private IP


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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Apr 30 2022, 01:40 AM)
indeed no update request from DSM 7.0... manually check in website only found DSM 7.1-42661 Update 1 version  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(viqq @ Mar 6 2023, 11:51 PM)
I seriously have no clues at all in dealing with NAS backups as I've never owned them before, I always do it the old school way which is backing up to an external HDD, cloning to another HDD etc. and I usually ask them to backup their own data. But recently getting more interests from friends and family asking me for repairs, thus considering getting a NAS for back ups and up the ante.

My idea is to back up customers data at the fastest speed, and start working on the hardware / OS reinstallation. Guess my idea wouldn't work then?
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no matter ssd or hdd, you will be bottlenecked by your NAS LAN speed.
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Mar 7 2023, 02:57 PM)
i think ur idea was to cloud hosting.. not nas.. nas slower than cloud.. alot.. however u need to hv enuf clients for u to sustain ur service.. mostly cloud hosting charge annually..
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You are generalizing too much on cloud hosting part. It depends on the cloud hardware and infrastructure itself if you want to make speed comparisons. Speed of concurrent transfers? Speed of the host processing? Shared host? Dedicated host? etc. The cloud hosts also charges based on level of services.

NAS utilising fast hardware will get you similar or better performance compared to cloud hostings, such as by having 10Gbps connection, fast processor, running nvme storage, etc.

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