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ZeneticX
post Jul 26 2013, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(sunami @ Jul 25 2013, 05:05 PM)
There are new safety crash test conduct in US.
It is call small overlap test. You will be amazed "some" cars being praised so much in malaysia failed terribly in that test....  whistling.gif

More info:
http://www.iihs.org/

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=1751
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=1679&seriesid=560
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looking forward to the new accord here. despite its looks no doubt its a solid D segment
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post Jul 26 2013, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jul 26 2013, 04:31 PM)
looking forward to the new accord here. despite its looks no doubt its a solid D segment
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Looking at the current Accord, only the 2.4 have dual side airbags. The 2.0 dun have even costing close to 150k. Fxxk!!
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post Jul 26 2013, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Martinis @ Jul 26 2013, 05:35 PM)
Looking at the current Accord, only the 2.4 have dual side airbags. The 2.0 dun have even costing close to 150k. Fxxk!!
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140k+ dont have dual airbags? =.=
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post Jul 26 2013, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Smurf2 @ Jul 26 2013, 05:37 PM)
140k+ dont have dual airbags? =.=
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NO!!!!

Malaysians like to be suckers!
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post Jul 26 2013, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Martinis @ Jul 26 2013, 05:35 PM)
Looking at the current Accord, only the 2.4 have dual side airbags. The 2.0 dun have even costing close to 150k. Fxxk!!
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Just went to honda website, yeah no side airbag. Don't think Camry 2.0 has it too.

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post Jul 26 2013, 06:51 PM

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biasa lah, no side airbags, because the salesman will tell you we malaysian always jam, side airbags not important one.

The worst is the new Santa Fe, at almost 180K only 2 airbags, plus it is a so called Malaysian Korean SUV, and suppose to be a higher end than Tuscon. What say you? Lagi mahal also side airbags dont have.

NA, if you wanna blame, blame the gomen for not approving our car safety and road safety, That only do it during Raya, reminding you to drive carefully, Drive slowly, "Anyway during peak times, our highway maximum speed is about 30km/h, so you dont really need those safety things. " This is what the gomen and transport ministry thinks.
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post Jul 26 2013, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(Smurf2 @ Jul 26 2013, 05:37 PM)
140k+ dont have dual airbags? =.=
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Got 2 airbags. But a D segment car should have a minimum of 6.

The baseline Toyota Camry (US version) comes with:
ABS, EBD, enhanced VSC stability control, brake assistant and smart stop technology (if you press both brakes and accelerator at the same time the brakes will override the accelerator... damn, no heel+toe...). It has 10 (!) airbags. Whiplash reducing seats for driver and front passenger. Oh and it has a 6 speed gearbox.
Higher spec cars have blind spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert.

The baseline Honda Accord (US version) comes with:
ABS, EBD, VSA stability control, brake assistant, tire pressure monitoring, DRL. 6 airbags.
Higher spec cars have forward collision warning and lane departure warning.

Again, if the potential buyers would put pressure on Toyota and Honda, saying they reject to buy the car because of the lack of safety features, and either buy another brand or not buy at all, and there are enough people doing that, then soon we'd see those cars being fully speced. Same with Altis, Vios, City, Civic, ...

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post Jul 26 2013, 07:34 PM

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now i wonder why our current generation camry 2.5 was added with VSC. Is it because of people pressure, or is it because they lost in the sales numbers? Or is it because they thought we are stupid, then proven otherwise and added it because they had to.

Which is it that is correct. Why did they suddenly added the feature? i thought Camry was a very super safe car that can collide into walls and buildings?
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QUOTE(sonyman @ Jul 26 2013, 07:34 PM)
now i wonder why our current generation camry 2.5 was added with VSC. Is it because of people pressure, or is it because they lost in the sales numbers? Or is it because they thought we are stupid, then proven otherwise and added it because they had to.

Which is it that is correct. Why did they suddenly added the feature? i thought Camry was a very super safe car that can collide into walls and buildings?
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Of course it can collide into buildings. Those inside may not survive it, but it will collide into buildings just fine.

I suppose it is a combination. Sales weren't so good (I don't see many new Camry on the road) and there was a public outcry over the removal of VSC.
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post Jul 26 2013, 08:42 PM

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Just follow the thoughtful suggestion by friendly forummer:-

I think All Malaysian driver should know the facts regarding active and passive safety:-

Check this out - http://www.livelifedrive.com/malaysia/news...safe-car-to-buy

Would you still buy Vios over City E?
Would you still buy cheapie Toyota? Proton? Perodua?
Without the ESC you life is always near the the Tiger mouth!

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post Jul 26 2013, 08:49 PM

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Malaysian mentality on safety is poor, some SA don't even know about ISOFIX. Most SA couldn't be bothered with airbags, what more of buyers who know nothing about cars?
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post Jul 26 2013, 08:56 PM

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Buy a Volvo :3 case closed tongue.gif
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post Jul 26 2013, 09:05 PM

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Volvo not resale value and unker car, Vios & Myvi is bestest sports car ever, can tapau any car any corner any road, after 5 years, still can sell good price.
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post Jul 26 2013, 09:30 PM

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Safe car no resale value 1. Only those car with less safety feature will hold their value well tongue.gif
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post Jul 26 2013, 09:41 PM

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hehe, i have a S40, i dont think it is an uncle car, plus nowadays Volvo design is kiiler design. bloody handsome and of course very class.

Then again, Volvo never a first option for most people, unless those who appreciate what Volvo offers.
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We can talk about safety till the cows come home but people will buy Vios no matter what. Look at the crap people talk on the Kia Cerato, a bunch of sourgroup.
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Here's another example of Malaysian foolishness, buy car, install brake lock aka locktech, some cars have knee airbags when the locktech is installed.

Safety is a joke.
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post Jul 27 2013, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 26 2013, 11:44 AM)
77 people or so. Do you have any idea how many die in Spanish traffic and how many die in Malaysian traffic? In relation to the size of the population?

Countries that drive safer cars have fewer deaths on the road. That is a fact.

Also I find it a bit offensive that you are trying to use this incident for your case. I have a good friend in that region, and she was traveling at that time.
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nothing is safe.

shit happen.
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post Jul 27 2013, 03:09 AM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Jul 27 2013, 12:44 AM)
nothing is safe.

shit happen.
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There is no absolute safety. But you can do a lot to be as safe as possible. You don't go through a dangerous area wearing an expensive suit, expensive watch, sunglasses, ... you avoid going there or at least try to stay low profile. Driving an unsafe car is like asking for trouble. The difference between an unsafe and a safe car can be the difference between life and death, though of course there can never be 100% safety.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...ated_death_rate

Road fatalities per 100000 motor vehicles:
Japan: 6.8.
Switzerland, Sweden, Netherlands, UK: 7.
Germany: 7.2. (Remember, no speed limit on 50% of the highways, and a country of notorious speeders. Drive at the speed limit and you'll have a long queue of angry tailgating drivers behind you, driving 10-20 km/h faster than allowed is the norm)
Australia, Norway: 8.
USA: 15. (Pickups aren't that safe I suppose? Also very distracted drivers who don't like to wear seatbelts... Wear your seatbelt campaigns seem common, haven't seen anything like that in Germany in ages, people just wear their seatbelt there. Makes a big difference...)
Singapore: 30.4. (How?!)
China: 36. (Better than Malaysia? Driving Chinese cars?)
Malaysia: 36.5.
Middle Eastern countries, African countries are even worse. I guess we can be lucky not to be in Togo.

A country where people love to speed... 7.2. Malaysia... 36.5. I suppose driving education and the cars driven make a difference...

But it's funny how Europe is clearly leading (together with a few other countries, but most European countries are on top).
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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Jul 27 2013, 12:44 AM)
nothing is safe.

shit happen.
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If that's the case, then we can start wearing shorts, t-shirts & flipflops to workplaces like construction yards, oil rigs, car factory assembly lines...

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