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post May 17 2006, 06:34 PM, updated 14y ago

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Let's start a new thread just for keepers. I'll start.

Currently I'm playing for Comic Corner FC in the KL Division 1 league. I'm almost 30 already & this can be considered my final fling in football. I'll see if I can play until I'm 35. At my age now, it's pretty difficult to secure a place in any of the current state teams.

Started playing as keeper when I was 12. Played some other sports (cyclist for Selangor & national teams from 1993 until year 2000, played basketball after that until last year), before returning to my roots late last year. Played for my school, college, was selected into UKM team, played for my local neighbourhood teams, etc.

First ever gloves was bought in 1989, brand was Lion. It was a cotton gloves with ping-pong type palm. Then I bought a full leather gloves which gets very, very hard when dry. I've worn Henberg, Umbro, Reusch, Nike, Puma & Joma gloves throughout my career (if U could call it that). Currently own 3 pairs, Nike Tiempo Grip, Puma King SL & Joma Golden.

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post May 17 2006, 06:48 PM

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Puma's special edition for WC2006

Puma V-Konstrukt
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Puma V-Cat

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Wished we can get these here
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lol i just started playing in standard 6, its been 4 yrs since.. although i dont play regularly. i was in the school team in 2003 and thats about it LoL. coz racism by the coach has put me off football. sigh. what a wasted talent u might say rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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hard to find dedicated keepers around, wish you played in my area hahaha =D here keepers are less than a handful and those who are dedicated and good at it mayb only 1 or 2.. so it's great to see people who actually like/want to play as keepers. *pat on the back* =D
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post May 17 2006, 07:05 PM

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My dream gloves...which we'll also never find here...at least yet...

Sells Adhesion Ultra Wrap

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Being a keeper was just sorta natural to me. I'm not really tall, but when I started playing, I just felt comfortable playing in goal..
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post May 17 2006, 07:17 PM

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One thing for keepers when in a one-on-one situation with a forward, let the forward act first .... don't just masuk straight at him, wait till he makes a decision first.

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Oh yea, wash your glove after every use. If not, your sweat will make the glove smell shakehead.gif
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Erm kinda shy to admit it but haha..I've been a keeper for like a year only...And i'm already 19...I picked up football kinda slow, so I guess keeper position now really suit me rather than playing upfield. But I've playing most of the time as Futsal goalkeeper so the experience is definetly different than soccer goalkeepers.

Still I love my position and I learn not to fear the ball, kinda used to have the ball hitting my face already...

tenno : the Puma gloves for WC2006 looks really cool! Does Buffon use them?
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post May 17 2006, 07:36 PM

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hello i want to know the feeling standing between post and waiting others to shoot at you........
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QUOTE(tenno @ May 17 2006, 06:48 PM)
Puma's special edition for WC2006

Puma V-Konstrukt
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Puma V-Cat

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Wished we can get these here
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This both gloves very beautiful,if i want to buy,where i can find?? icon_idea.gif
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post May 17 2006, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(Lionheart216 @ May 17 2006, 07:36 PM)
This both gloves very beautiful,if i want to buy,where i can find?? icon_idea.gif
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As I said, wished we can these here. They're not available in Malaysia. The latest in Puma line that is available in Msia are these V3-06,

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U can find those in RSH outlets, around RM70+ I think.
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QUOTE(tenno @ May 17 2006, 07:41 PM)
As I said, wished we can these here. They're not available in Malaysia. The latest in Puma line that is available in Msia are these V3-06,

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U can find those in RSH outlets, around RM70+ I think.
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The price is ok,just very hard to find it..I just see many nice boot(Golden boot) in Purma shop..
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post May 17 2006, 07:44 PM

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well, i am a little goalkeeper myself.. aged 16 tongue.gif
just a little futsal team that didn't last long
not that good though biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(olkooi @ May 17 2006, 07:36 PM)
hello i want to know the feeling standing between post and waiting others to shoot at you........
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It depends. If U'r in training, shooting practise is the time when everybody will do their best to beat U, the thing is they're your teammates, so it's different in games. During shooting practise, I have about 20 ppl in my team, normally everybody will get like 5-7 shots each, so that's 100 - 140 shots U have to face. My team have 2 keepers, so we switch places after every 10 shots or so. To me it's like,"OK, let's see what U can do, give me your best shot" & try my best to stop the shots.

During my training with Serendah team, I used my training gloves for 2 months without tearing them. I joined Comic Corner, I tore my gloves after 2 sessions....
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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ May 17 2006, 07:44 PM)
well, i am a little goalkeeper myself.. aged 16 tongue.gif
just a little futsal team that didn't last long
not that good though biggrin.gif
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U need to try first..I think this will be very nice..
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post May 17 2006, 08:31 PM

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any goal keepers stay around kepong/ bandar sri damansara area??
i am desperately looking for goal keeper for my futsal team because our goal keeper left the team as he said he dont want to play futsal anymore.

and his main reason is .....

he want to play basketball to impress his gf....


so im desperately looking for goal keeper for my team... anybody??
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QUOTE(chypher @ May 17 2006, 08:31 PM)
any goal keepers stay around kepong/ bandar sri damansara area??
i am desperately looking for goal keeper for my futsal team because our goal keeper left the team as he said he dont want to play futsal anymore.

and his main reason is .....

he want to play basketball to impress his gf....
so im desperately looking for goal keeper for my team... anybody??
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Lol...Well girls of course see bkb players more macho I guess. IMO, GK more macho coz they have the balls to face the ball even though the consequences can be very painfull....Wahahaha... icon_idea.gif

Goalkeeper don't really get much credit...But yet I love my job laugh.gif
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yeah, GK don't get alot of credit. but people are slowly realising how important a keeper in the squad is. When i wanted to make a team for a 9 a side tourney i made sure the backbone of the squad is there namely a good forward, midfielder, centreback and a very reliable keeper. many people make a mistake by throwing some "newb" to play keeper because he can't play anywhere else or for any other reason. this was what happened to me in an amatuer tournament last year.. scrappy last min squad and put someone who has not played keeper between the post.. playing a keeper is NOT an easy thing to do and not everyone can do it. not many people has what it takes to make that dive etc.. needless to say , the 1st goal we conceded was a lousy chip which the keeper didn't expect to dip.. heck even an outfield player will know it's gonna dip into the net.. sigh.. neway it's good to hear people coming out wanting to play keepers as it isn't a very "popular" position in the squad.. but i do appreciate the unsung heroes in the squad so cheers to all the keepers out there and those who play their hearts out for their team be it in any position !!

ps: great idea startin a tread dedicated to keepers.. good goin lads! XD
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Im a keeper myself till Form1 b4 i retired from being a keeper (after being kick at the head during 'rushing out' to get a ball)..it scares me a lot sweat.gif

My first ever and last glove is Topper..
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Been playing goalkeeper ever since i was form 1, that's about 10 years already...still playing as goalie, sometimes play defender. Inspired to play the position ever since The Great Dane started playing for Man Utd (IMHO best goalie ever notworthy.gif ), never got bored of it even till now. No major tournament experience, just represented school team as 2nd choice goalie, cause got one Indian kid damn tall and good, around 6 feet 3" and fast reflex, exactly like Van Der Sar, that's why couldn't secure 1st spot laugh.gif , and joined some outsider team for a while, which we challenged teams from other areas every now and then. Nowadays no more kaki to play padang football, and all also no more stamina to run, so stuck with playing futsal only tongue.gif

Used to have the same Reusch gloves that Schmeichel wore, then some idiot stole it while i went to get a drink during a match vmad.gif cry.gif . Now just own a normal pair of Adidas gloves.
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QUOTE(Notoriez @ May 17 2006, 10:28 PM)
Im a keeper myself till Form1 b4 i retired from being a keeper (after being kick at the head during 'rushing out' to get a ball)..it scares me a lot sweat.gif

My first ever and last glove is Topper..
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Everytime i playing football,i don't like be a keeper because i scare the ball shot to my face,so just be a midfield only..passing the ball to striker.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(olkooi @ May 17 2006, 08:36 PM)
hello i want to know the feeling standing between post and waiting others to shoot at you........
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LoL.... I love the anticipation of the shot coming in and i save it in a spectecular way and the look on the player face after i save his shot....

Been a goalie since 12 until now....
Form has dipped lately because i left football playing for about 8 months. I am currently gaining back my fitness...

I especially loves one - one situations.... Most of the time i come out tops....
thanks to my upper body agility and my super fast hands and fingers....

only problem i have is my over dramatic save that can have very bad consequences.... ie making a meal out of a simple routine save...

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QUOTE(Lionheart216 @ May 17 2006, 10:47 PM)
Everytime i playing football,i don't like be a keeper because i scare the ball shot to my face,so just be a midfield only..passing the ball to striker.. rclxms.gif
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Hahaha, being goalie means u gotta be prepared to use *EVERY* part of ur body, and i really mean it...

Let's talk about our best saves. My personal best was a 3 save in-a-row, first i had to punch the 1st shot away, then it rebounded to another opponent player and he took a shot to the bottom right corner, i have to immediatly dive bottom right and push it away before i could even stand up, then, my stupid defence still standing there watch me do One-Man-Show, 3rd fella came in from right side and shoot, i had to use my balls to block the shot, and finally hold on the ball...lied on the ground for 2 minutes after that, SAKIT OH~~~!!! sweat.gif ...but managed to get rclxms.gif and notworthy.gif from everyone on the field and spectators, so it was worth it icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(kcng @ May 17 2006, 11:06 PM)
LoL.... I love the anticipation of the shot coming in and i save it in a spectecular way and the look on the player face after i save his shot....
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Yep, the look on the opponent's face that says, "HOW DID HE SAVE THAT shocking.gif ???" is the most satisfying part about being a goalkeeper thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(nck_ck @ May 17 2006, 11:09 PM)
Hahaha, being goalie means u gotta be prepared to use *EVERY* part of ur body, and i really mean it...

Let's talk about our best saves. My personal best was a 3 save in-a-row, first i had to  punch the 1st shot away, then it rebounded to another opponent player and he took a shot to the bottom right corner, i have to immediatly dive bottom right and push it away  before i could even stand up, then, my stupid defence still standing there watch me do One-Man-Show, 3rd fella came in from right side and shoot, i had to use my balls to block the shot, and finally hold on the ball...lied on the ground for 2 minutes after that, SAKIT OH~~~!!! sweat.gif ...but managed to get rclxms.gif and  notworthy.gif  from everyone on the field and spectators, so it was worth it  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Don't know lah,i just don't like be a keeper,no safety..gotta be prepared to use every part of my body..
I like be a midfield,can passing also can goal my mine.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kcng @ May 17 2006, 11:06 PM)
LoL.... I love the anticipation of the shot coming in and i save it in a spectecular way and the look on the player face after i save his shot....

Been a goalie since 12 until now....
Form has dipped lately because i left football playing for about 8 months. I am currently gaining back my fitness...

I especially loves one - one situations.... Most of the time i come out tops....
thanks to my upper body agility and my super fast hands and fingers....

only problem i have is my over dramatic save that can have very bad consequences.... ie making a meal out of a simple routine save...

icon_idea.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  flex.gif  tongue.gif
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You sudah tua lar datuk...Jimatlah tenaga anda untuk perkahwinan saudara pada masa hadapan. tongue.gif
The best part I like is, blocking/saving a 1 on 1 attempt. Looking at the opponent's reaction is priceless rclxms.gif
Btw you bought your new gloves already?


QUOTE(Lionheart216 @ May 17 2006, 11:14 PM)
Don't know lah,i just don't like be a keeper,no safety..gotta be prepared to use every part of my body..
I like be a midfield,can passing also can goal my mine.. laugh.gif
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Well, no harm actually if you got hit by a fast moving ball.Unless it's Steven Gerrard who took the shot lar...Hahaha...I guess I have taken shots in every part of my body...even "there" also... flex.gif

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I once dive into an opponent balls first just when he was preparing to shoot.....
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My best save was ala gordon banks... a free kick, deflected by the wall and wrong foot me yet somehow i manage to fly across the goal and somehow catch the ball clean..... high ball some more....
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but that was quite some time ago la...

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During a training session a couple months back, Alex (of Soccer Star) was up against me, chasing a loose ball. I got to the ball first & kicked it, but the ball hit the advancing Alex & bounced back towards my goal. I chased Alex down, he was now about 7-8 feet ahead of me, & swept the ball away as he was about to kick the ball, bringing him down as well. He claimed penalty, but I got to the ball first.

In 1999, semi finals of UKM's inter-Kamsis (now Kolej) tournament (SUKEM). We were up against the favorites, they're leading 1-0. I saved everything they threw at me. My teammates came to me later & told me, if they were the other side's striker, they'd be very frustrated. We equalized with less than 10 mins to go & went on to win on penalties. I saved 1 penalty. I guess that was one of my best games.

Early this month, in a friendly, my team was up 2-1. Then my defence was caught off-guard & let this lone striker towards goal. I went for the ball, the striker hit the ball & I parried it, but the ball bounced back at him. The guy hit the rebound against me again & this time the ball rebounded outside the penalty box, to his teammate. This guy took the shot as I was backing up to my goal & I had to dive full stretch to parry the ball away.
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Too bad I'm still new to have my "best save" experience. But can say the best moment as a goalkeeper I had is during my college futsal competition. I almost manage to get a clean sheet in the group stage(which consist of 9 teams in total) untill one of my defender accidentally own goal. Well one shot only, still something I'm proud off..(unfortunately during the finals I made some major screwed up...Let in 3 goals...heck..kinda like Kahn during the 2002 World Cup finals)

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well, the first time i became goalie, everyone was already amazed biggrin.gif
but that time didnt do flashy saves, just wait the person dribble i go dive at his feet. haa. and also, got once, the striker wanted to humiliate me. he dribbled past all the defenders ( lousy baastards, blame me always when one on one) . then he had a superman to face. ME tongue.gif . he tried dribble around, i wait for right moment (forming a "cobra" style with my hands to protect my face, u can check this technique at jb goalkeeping) go dive at his feet lol. he fell down then claim penalty. hahaha. too bad, he didnt get the penalty,even the referee salute my save. and that was match deciding. we won 1-0. actually, i thought wanted to simply let him score, but he wanted to humiliate me, so i gave no chance biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

then there was this time, the ball was like bouncing irregularly, suddenly i dunno how, the ball got out of my sight, yet i know it was beside me lol i just stretch my arms and parried it away. talk about keeper instincts laugh.gif

then got this ccb part where we were playing a losing match, the defender got pissed( he blamed me for all the goals lol.. actually all of them scored during one on one shocking.gif ), simply kick the goalkick into striker, and the striker came so near, bout 6 feet away from me, shoot towards the lower corner. i use super reflex save dived at the grounder. my gloves, needless to say got abused coz of the sand near the goalpost.
anyway i never had the chance to save multiple shots.. the max is only 2. i parried the ball away dunno fly where, then i turn around the ball hit my ass. haha . is that counted? whistling.gif whistling.gif

i guess most best saves are those where people gave up hope, but we still go for it thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(mxxuang @ May 18 2006, 02:37 PM)

Speaking about dream gloves :

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Adidas' new line looks really good, but Adidas distis in Malaysia is quite slow to bring in the new models. Adidas have just released their latest latex palm called E5S, the new models uses this latex plus new cosmetics & all. But they also released replica models, that is this year's cosmetics with the old latex, E4S. The one U bought, is FS Carbon, with E4S.

But I guess the latex won't make much difference, the new Fingersave elements is really good. Maybe U can try & compare Ur current gloves with the new FS Replique, the FS elements are much more flexible.
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being keeper is the best...the only position that allowed using hands and when u 'terbang' the crowd goes "waa....keeper mantap" rclxms.gif (provide if u make a savelah)
another important point when u play as a keeper the posibility to be chosen into a team is easier coz not many contender rclxms.gif
but to be a keeper especially in futsal u must have a very brave heart, i myself being call psycho many times by my friend
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QUOTE(tenno @ May 18 2006, 04:36 PM)
Adidas' new line looks really good, but Adidas distis in Malaysia is quite slow to bring in the new models. Adidas have just released their latest latex palm called E5S, the new models uses this latex plus new cosmetics & all. But they also released replica models, that is this year's cosmetics with the old latex, E4S. The one U bought, is FS Carbon, with E4S.

But I guess the latex won't make much difference, the new Fingersave elements is really good. Maybe U can try & compare Ur current gloves with the new FS Replique, the FS elements are much more flexible.
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Ookay that would explain what 'replique' means...Was wondering what the heck it means..I know it's a downgraded version but dunno what is downgraded. But latex surface technology don't really bother me much lar...

Yeah the newer line of the Adidas FS the FPS is more flexible than my FS Carbon. Anyway I got used to my FS carbon already so nowdays doesn't really give me much problem


QUOTE(amir_iskandar @ May 18 2006, 04:55 PM)
being keeper is the best...the only position that allowed using hands and when u 'terbang' the crowd goes "waa....keeper mantap"  rclxms.gif (provide if u make a savelah)
another important point when u play as a keeper the posibility to be chosen into a team is easier coz not many contender  rclxms.gif
but to be a keeper especially in futsal u must have a very brave heart, i myself being call psycho many times by my friend
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I played futsal most of the time...And that will definetely test your skills to da max coz you're constantly being shot at. Some claim they too scared to take a shot coz I always come rushing at them tongue.gif

A good team member will always understand the keeper's position by not putting the blame on them for EVERY goal conceded(unless it's some very stupid 5 year old kid shot goal lar). But I do get mad sometime at my defenders who constantly go up the field and often leave me with 1 on 1(some time 2 on 1, 3 on 1 also got) situation.

GK's are not pyscho, they just love their job that's all..that's what makes us special and different...Talk about machoness.... flex.gif

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QUOTE(mxxuang @ May 18 2006, 05:02 PM)


A good team member will always understand the keeper's position by not putting the blame on them for EVERY goal conceded(unless it's some very stupid 5 year old kid shot goal lar). But I do get mad sometime at my defenders who constantly go up the field and often leave me with 1 on 1(some time 2 on 1, 3 on 1 also got) situation.

GK's are not pyscho, they just love their job that's all..that's what makes us special and different...Talk about machoness.... flex.gif
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lol, thats wat my stupid teammates always do. they leave Gk 1 on 1, all wanna go in fronta goal to score. then when score liao say i didnt guard. lol. damn funny man. and no use talking to them , coz im from the 1st, class, they all from 2nd, 3rd 4th class, wont get along well.

and i tot if they shoot the ball at u, what skill they testing sweat.gif sweat.gif for me, if i position myself well, like in the middle of where they can shoot( not too near to near post or far post, right in between) they shoot straight at me, then its easy to save thumbup.gif thumbup.gif but no diving saves to show off whistling.gif whistling.gif
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Any goalies here using softground (SG) boots ? I mean those with 6 studs (removable). Most of the pitch in KL is hard pitch, but sometimes in the rain, we will need SG boots. My current two pairs are SGs, one is blade studs SG (Adidas Salvador SG) & the other is Umbro Match Bronze SSG (6 studs, metal tip).

Last nite I had a friendly match against Valencia (well, they were wearing Valencia jerseys). We won like 3 or 4 - 2. The first goal I let in was a deflection. My midfield lost the ball in our half (a very, very dangerous situation). It was a shot from outside the penalty which hit one of my defenders. To make it worse, I slipped & couldn't get to the ball, although I've already anticipated the shot. I had my Adidas on. Usually I'd use my Umbros when playing in PKNS field. But I didn't know ther was going to be a match last nite, it was supposed to be a training session. Well, what to do....
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QUOTE(tenno @ May 19 2006, 09:23 AM)
Any goalies here using softground (SG) boots ? I mean those with 6 studs (removable). Most of the pitch in KL is hard pitch, but sometimes in the rain, we will need SG boots. My current two pairs are SGs, one is blade studs SG (Adidas Salvador SG) & the other is Umbro Match Bronze SSG (6 studs, metal tip).

Last nite I had a friendly match against Valencia (well, they were wearing Valencia jerseys). We won like 3 or 4 - 2. The first goal I let in was a deflection. My midfield lost the ball in our half (a very, very dangerous situation). It was a shot from outside the penalty which hit one of my defenders. To make it worse, I slipped & couldn't get to the ball, although I've already anticipated the shot. I had my Adidas on. Usually I'd use my Umbros when playing in PKNS field. But I didn't know ther was going to be a match last nite, it was supposed to be a training session. Well, what to do....
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I dont buy SG boots at all.if i do wanna get it, get a cheaper one also . Malaysia pitches suck to the max , so hard. and i hardly get to use them. and 6 stud usually metal, depending on where u play , they usually ban it.. my school had some student organised leages, they said " 6 start tak dibenarkan" that time i dunno wtf is 6 start also. ahhaa
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Wau....so far down edi this thread. Been down with tonsilitis since last Friday, but played on Sunday anyway. Won 7-1 against FT Chinese. Initially we were a bit .... awed, becoz the team got 2 foreigners. But later we found out those foreigners weren't effective at all.
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been playing keeper for the last few years. but if play football then i become defender, only futsal i become keeper.

no need gloves oso can handle shots oredi playing futsal. brows.gif
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Hmm..been playing as a keeper ever since I started football..probably the lack of people willing to become the keeper kept me in the position even though I am not that fantastic tongue.gif

Not to mention, I love playing as a keeper, the fact that the responsibility is greater as a keeper than any outfield player. As they say, keeper gets only one chance to save, a striker can get ten to score.

Tend to let high balls get to me and the occasional super blooper like dropping the ball into the goal.. laugh.gif

Usually get called into teams last minute to join tourneys because they dont have a keeper tongue.gif So far, experience has been varied, for amateur tournaments, always get pass the group stage but falter in the knockout stages.

Joined a semi-pro (i guess) Milo League at Sportsbarn once. My team consisted of teenage kids playing first time in a major league. Needless to say, it was a good (although humiliating) experience for me. Who knew Steven's Corner can shoot the ball so hard? tongue.gif

But that was also the best time being a futsal goalkeeper, learn quite a lot from that tourney. Best save at that time was a one-on-one situation and I remembered him saying "Matilah engkau" before I went and save his shot. Quite a priceless moment.



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QUOTE(donpapachino @ May 24 2006, 10:09 AM)
been playing keeper for the last few years. but if play football then i become defender, only futsal i become keeper.

no need gloves oso can handle shots oredi playing futsal. brows.gif
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Sure lah,no need the gloves,i think the ball so slow from the striker..easy to do defend..
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Keeper is the position i paling scare to play because one time my face kena the ball hit kao kao and make my nose bleeding...after that i won't play keeper anymore...so i respect those keeper kao kao...
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One thing I'm quite baffled is everytime a new player joins a football game, he/she is often given the keeper position. Kinda weird. For me the best position for starters will be defender.

I started out as defender first then promoted to keeper. People ask me I'm crazy or not go take up keeper job. Coz there was once my friend broke his teeth when playing GK. What to do, I'm stuck to that position, and loving every minute of it.
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seems that im the only one capable of saving shots with my face and have no injuries hahahaaaa biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
my weakness is crosses, i only dare to punch them out. and punching usually gain more applause lol. if i try to catch the cross, i might fumble.
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QUOTE(ManLivArs @ May 25 2006, 02:38 PM)
Keeper is the position i paling scare to play because one time my face kena the ball hit kao kao and make my nose bleeding...after that i won't play keeper anymore...so i respect those keeper kao kao...
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and me also very scare the ball hit my face and important side(My brother).. laugh.gif

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Perhaps that is why keepers are a rare breed. Diving for the ball on a striker's feet is no easy task. I guess the key to prevent injury is technique & experience. U have to be fast enuf to pluck the ball from the air, or from the player's feet. Last Sunday I went for a high ball with the opponent on the run, got to the ball but landed on my side (ribs). Cannot breathe for a while. Then got up & continued.

My team's previous two keepers, 1 got his jaw broken, then he suffered a concussion on the field. The other one saw his leg broken & was out of action for almost a year, screws fixed into his legs.

Another thing is knowing when to take the risk. If it's not worth it, don't take unnecessary risk which will put U & your team in danger. That's when experience will come into play
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lol, if you dont play competitive ly, theres no need to go for breakaways. just let em score, after all its a breakaway ... laugh.gif laugh.gif and those unprofessional people will try to slam the ball into ur ass or just kick the stuffing outta ur head. but i did once lar, coz that guy so small , in a interclass competition.. he was like half my size, so i said " if i kena kick also wont die wan lar biggrin.gif " i went for it and got the ball. haahcool and calm is the key here.

tenno, how did that guy break his jaw? kena kick? that must be very bad sweat.gif even tho i play like crazy, diving at people feet many times, but I play with considerate people lar.. if keeper dive i think he has the rights to go for the ball. in fact if keeper touch, and the fella still kick means foul hahahaa. If they abolish this rules, i can say Tata to the position of keeper. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ May 25 2006, 02:44 PM)
One thing I'm quite baffled is everytime a new player joins a football game, he/she is often given the keeper position. Kinda weird. For me the best position for starters will be defender.

I started out as defender first then promoted to keeper. People ask me I'm crazy or not go take up keeper job. Coz there was once my friend broke his teeth when playing GK. What to do, I'm stuck to that position, and loving every minute of it.
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it to train u to have at least basic goalkeeping skills..
imagine that in a game,when u already used all 3 subs and suddenly ur keeper got red card.then???

well,if u train any of the player to be keeper b4,then u just might lucky,if not???

this case use to be happen to Chelsea..

last season..when cudicini get sent off,forgot who become replacement keeper that time..

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QUOTE(mxxuang @ May 25 2006, 02:44 PM)
One thing I'm quite baffled is everytime a new player joins a football game, he/she is often given the keeper position. Kinda weird. For me the best position for starters will be defender.

I started out as defender first then promoted to keeper. People ask me I'm crazy or not go take up keeper job. Coz there was once my friend broke his teeth when playing GK. What to do, I'm stuck to that position, and loving every minute of it.
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ya ka???? Didn't happen with me.Started up front the very first time blush.gif
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ May 26 2006, 12:30 AM)
ya ka???? Didn't happen with me.Started up front the very first time  blush.gif
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Aiyah sorry shouldn't put the word "everytime". But this is what happen lar most of the time.

Talking about risking an injury for the ball, well I rarely put myself to such danger if it means taking off my bones or putting my head/neck on the line. But if it resulted in just a minor scratches, go for it lar. Anyway I don't think a fast moving ball can cause heavy damage right?
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but for keepers, 1 mistake is usually very costly. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ May 25 2006, 10:59 PM)
tenno, how did that guy break his jaw? kena kick? that must be very bad  sweat.gif  even tho i play like crazy, diving at people feet many times, but I play with considerate people lar.. if keeper dive i think he has the rights to go for the ball. in fact if keeper touch, and the fella still kick means foul hahahaa. If they abolish this rules, i can say Tata to the position of keeper.  rclxms.gif
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Yeah, he got kicked straight in the face. It was a matter of a little bit early, or a little bit late.

In one-on-one situations, from a referee's perspective, keepers have the advantage. U can go in straight with your feet first, can hack the striker off, & still U won't concede a foul, provided that U do all that in your penalty box. U can see when keepers go for 50-50 balls, they will stick their feet out to discourage the striker. If the striker dares to challenge, then it's up to him. If he kena anything, ref won't say a thing. The thing is you must go for the ball, not the player.

But nowadays, refs look to intentions of the player. If the keeper purposely go for the striker instead of the ball, with the intention of causing griveous (refs term) hurt to the opposing player, then the keeper is on for a booking.
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lol im gonna buy sg boots and that would help deter strikers further rclxm9.gif blade ones. hahah. who dare come 1 on 1, bring it on !!
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Damn my old primero gonna have to retire already...Hahaha...Time for a new replacement..which is :

Adidas Fingersave Replique(for real this time tongue.gif )

My bro is coming back from UK and he manage to find a size 9, and all for the price of 16.99 pounds...(1 pound = 6.5). which means : RM110 rclxm9.gif
Damn and those Adidas store here are selling for RM210... hehe

And that day my mum washed my gloves (without my consent!!! She say too smelly already) and she dip it inside water with conditioner...The results, the surface become too smooth, lost the grip cry.gif . Luckily I dip inside water again and dried it up then it was okay back alreayd..but still I think the latex surface has lost it's effectiveness already...Damn!

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QUOTE(mxxuang @ May 30 2006, 09:36 AM)
Damn my old primero gonna have to retire already...Hahaha...Time for a new replacement..which is :

Adidas Fingersave Replique(for real this time  tongue.gif )

My bro is coming back from UK and he manage to find a size 9, and all for the price of 16.99 pounds...(1 pound = 6.5). which means : RM110  rclxm9.gif
Damn and those Adidas store here are selling for RM210... hehe

And that day my mum washed my gloves (without my consent!!! She say too smelly already) and she dip it inside water with conditioner...The results, the surface become too smooth, lost the grip cry.gif . Luckily I dip inside water again and dried it up then it was okay back alreayd..but still I think the latex surface has lost it's effectiveness already...Damn!
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Coming back from UK ? When ? Maybe can help me buy those Sells gloves. RM110 for Replique is a good bargain.

Conditioner ? Like shampoo conditioner ? Or those Softlan things ? If conditioner still okay, but gloves' latex cannot stand those fabric softener. Sure gone case. Maybe can only use for training. I handwash my gloves with those sabun buku Fab. Works for me all these years.
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Oh, and goalie got protection from ref wan usually.

I once chop an opposition player down in my box and got away scot free.
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And i love coming up for crosses. I especially like it too if some one come and challenge for it and some how fall down hugging their backside or waist because kena jab by my knees.

Hahahaha...

The best is one on one... I dive straight for the ball instead of waiting..
Just rush in straight like a bull... straight to their legs.... bringing them down together in the process...

and yes sometimes i over dramatise a save and the ball just roll into the goal....
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QUOTE(tenno @ May 30 2006, 10:44 AM)
Coming back from UK ? When ? Maybe can help me buy those Sells gloves. RM110 for Replique is a good bargain.

Conditioner ? Like shampoo conditioner ? Or those Softlan things ? If conditioner still okay, but gloves' latex cannot stand those fabric softener. Sure gone case. Maybe can only use for training. I handwash my gloves with those sabun buku Fab. Works for me all these years.
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I think it's those softener...Usually I use dishwasher to clean one...


QUOTE(kcng @ May 30 2006, 11:20 AM)
Oh, and goalie got protection from ref wan usually.

I once chop an opposition player down in my box and got away scot free.
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And i love coming up for crosses. I especially like it too if some one come and challenge for it and some how fall down hugging their backside or waist because kena jab by my knees.

Hahahaha...

The best is one on one... I dive straight for the ball instead of waiting..
Just rush in straight like a bull... straight to their legs.... bringing them down together in the process...

and yes sometimes i over dramatise a save and the ball just roll into the goal....
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i always be a GK when me n my frens play futsal but sometime i play in defense. i like to be a GK but i got no speed, quickness n watsoever need to be a good GK. i just have a big body.

the best moment is when i play with my frens in college (not tourney la, just sport activity in the evening). my fren dribble past all the defender and try to to "5 ringgit" me (at that time i do a sumo stance, so there's a lot space there between my legs), suddenly my hand moves on it's own to stop the ball (thanks god my fren just dop a simple tap). after that i LoL in front him. also, i got an experience when my balls do the save and it's really HURTTT!!!

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I remember back in my high school days, i use to play goalie when playing with frens at the nearby padang(half the size of a football pitch). Best moments were scoring long range from my own goal area and playing during raining time ( can do super dive and sliding tackle)
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Argh...RSH selling Adidas FS Carbon for 50% discount..means RM99 la now..

But heck I got my FS Replique already...Truly the FPS is much more flexible than my Old carbon(demoted to training gloves now).
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lol shit man. i wanted to get some primeros . but stupi RSH hang them so low. i couldnt see . all i could see was cheapo pumas which cost Rm 29 . lol. what a bargain, even tho the latex is only 2 mm thick i think. haha. so damn thin, first time i worn this thin. last time use ASICS glove damn thick, also admiral gloves. actually admiral gloves quite good ler.. good grip. any opinions on other glove?
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 4 2006, 01:05 AM)
lol shit man. i wanted to get some primeros . but stupi RSH hang them so low. i couldnt see . all i could see was cheapo pumas which cost Rm 29 . lol. what a bargain, even tho the latex is only 2 mm thick i think. haha. so damn thin, first time i worn this thin. last time use ASICS glove damn thick, also admiral gloves. actually admiral gloves quite good ler.. good grip. any opinions on other glove?
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Your budget how much? Lol if you're patient enough RSH can really go low for their Adidas GK Gloves. Always cannot sell...Seems like i'm the only customer...

RM29.00 puma? That was my first glove. Totally useless one, the surface like the ping pong bat. I'm eyeing the RM89.00 Puma gloves, they're quite comfortable..tested that day..but din buy...
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I was at the Pyramid RSH yesterday. Saw the FS at 50% but no size 10. Otherwise, would've seriously considered it. But now my injured middle finger is getting better, so proly stick to my current gloves. Quite afraid to buy new gloves, with the way I'm playing now, it's a miracle I can stay with Comics Corner next season. Gotta do something, quick...
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Had a good game yesterday, beat INTAN on their home ground 1-0. Could've won by more, one shot by our striker hit both left & right posts before going out. I had a good game as well, got my confidence back, organized my defences well.

One question to ask: How do you guys choose your gloves? Is it by brand, or U buy whatever your favorite keeper uses?
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basedon el cheapo prices , and good brand. I bought a rm 30 pair of pumas which were on sale. if it werent puma, i wouldnt have gone for it. So its a combination of brand and price.
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jun 4 2006, 01:34 AM)
Your budget how much? Lol if you're patient enough RSH can really go low for their Adidas GK Gloves. Always cannot sell...Seems like i'm the only customer...

RM29.00 puma? That was my first glove. Totally useless one, the surface like the ping pong bat. I'm eyeing the RM89.00 Puma gloves, they're quite comfortable..tested that day..but din buy...
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i didnt buy the ping pong bat glove. u mean got some patches of rubber on them? that would be suxors i would prefer using bare hands. I bought one is like surgical glove ... but thicker. haha. its called puma esito latex. i think it would serve well as im not playing pro level .. even school level i quit like 3 yrs ago. now play during PJ period.
How much adidas can go arh.. that day i saw the primero gloves damn expensive also. RM 60 something , compared to the one u bought.. i tihnk u bought it at RM 40 something right?
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 5 2006, 04:20 PM)
i didnt buy the ping pong bat glove. u mean got some patches of rubber on them? that would be suxors i would prefer using bare hands. I bought one is like surgical glove ... but thicker. haha. its called puma esito latex. i think it would serve well as im not playing pro level .. even school level i quit like 3 yrs ago. now play during PJ period.
How much adidas can go arh.. that day i saw the primero gloves damn expensive also. RM 60 something , compared to the one u bought.. i tihnk u bought it at RM 40 something right?
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Yeah...now no more promotion already...30% discount for Primero I think... If you won't mind can go for the FS Carbon, going for RM99...But I bought it few months back for RM140..now it's my training gloves...currently using FS Replique
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Now i have to buy ANOTHER pair of gloves.

I forgot where I put my previous 2 gloves liao. tongue.gif

So anyone recommend something ? I want 2. One cheap gloves for futsal use and one good one for field use.

Budget is not an issue.
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OT : and where did i place my shin guard ?
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shin guard just simply buy el cheapo brands lar. like me i buy henberg(dunno what fking brand).coz the level im playing, i dont need to worry much bout getting kicked in the shins. mine cost me RM 15 i think... got some padding and 3 pieces of plastic stuff. u want cheap gloves go RSH, bend low low, they hang most clearance gloves down there. haha. Shoulda bought 3 pairs of Puma esito latex..but i think those are for advanced training(means cheap ones , for recreational play only), for ur futsal can lar. if you say budget not an issue, then go for top end fingersave pro lor.. cost more than RM 300.hhahahaha

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 5 2006, 11:55 PM)
shin guard just simply buy el cheapo brands lar. like me i buy henberg(dunno what fking brand).coz the level im playing, i dont need to worry much bout getting kicked in the shins. mine cost me RM 15 i think... got some padding and 3 pieces of plastic stuff. u want cheap gloves go RSH, bend low low, they hang most clearance gloves down there. haha. Shoulda bought 3 pairs of Puma esito latex..but i think those are for advanced training(means cheap ones , for recreational play only), for ur futsal can lar. if you say budget not an issue, then go for top end fingersave pro lor.. cost more than RM 300.hhahahaha
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i want shin guard if possible can wrap almost 60 - 70% of your legs.

i know where to get cheap gloves but then for the good ones, hard la...
the last gloves i have is dunno what brand liao... last seen 1 year ago..
price is about RM 150 i think...
if i am not mistaken, the brand oliver khan use wan... not adidas...

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iknow oli uses adidas fingersave haha. the others i dunno lar. those rm 15 shin guards got cover half my leg below the knee. also depends on how long ur legs are. if u let baby wear i think can cover his whole body biggrin.gif . and also got ankle support.
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 5 2006, 01:21 PM)
One question to ask: How do you guys choose your gloves? Is it by brand, or U buy whatever your favorite keeper uses?
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I always look for a good grip gloves that will last long.

I don't pay attention for comfortable gloves coz gloves are like football boots, the more you wear them the more they will shape to your hands and fingers.

I don't look for the brand or the looks of the glove coz the of the day, having the most mahal glove in the world and can't catch a simple ball is just pure crap.
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 5 2006, 10:55 PM)
shin guard just simply buy el cheapo brands lar. like me i buy henberg(dunno what fking brand).coz the level im playing, i dont need to worry much bout getting kicked in the shins. mine cost me RM 15 i think... got some padding and 3 pieces of plastic stuff. u want cheap gloves go RSH, bend low low, they hang most clearance gloves down there. haha. Shoulda bought 3 pairs of Puma esito latex..but i think those are for advanced training(means cheap ones , for recreational play only), for ur futsal can lar. if you say budget not an issue, then go for top end fingersave pro lor.. cost more than RM 300.hhahahaha
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Actually shinpads U can buy branded ones at quite a low price. I use Puma now which costs me RM19.90 before discount, RM15.00 after discount.

Gloves is very much personal preferences. I'll see what my idols use then go & test whether their suitable for me. I have absolute trust on Nike gloves, no need pre-wash, can use straightaway out of the box.
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Paul Robinson's SMU for the World Cup, Nike's first roll-finger. Almost RM320.00 if direct convert from Just Keeper's.

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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 9 2006, 11:22 AM)
Actually shinpads U can buy branded ones at quite a low price. I use Puma now which costs me RM19.90 before discount, RM15.00 after discount.

Gloves is very much personal preferences. I'll see what my idols use then go & test whether their suitable for me. I have absolute trust on Nike gloves, no need pre-wash, can use straightaway out of the box.
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I use a RM15.00 Umbro shinpads...Serve me well so far...


QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 9 2006, 05:27 PM)
Paul Robinson's SMU for the World Cup, Nike's first roll-finger. Almost RM320.00 if direct convert from Just Keeper's.

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Wat's roll-finger?
Yeah I saw his gloves during the England-Jamaica match...Plain, yet beautiful looking(kinda looks like those gloves assasin use to conduct murders laugh.gif ) Anyway where they selling this in Malaysia? Do they have the Name printing service here?(only for 5 Pounds, which is around RM30)
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use liquid paper to write ur name lol tongue.gif i can write for u 3 pounds.
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jun 9 2006, 09:32 PM)
I use a RM15.00 Umbro shinpads...Serve me well so far...
Wat's roll-finger?
Yeah I saw his gloves during the England-Jamaica match...Plain, yet beautiful looking(kinda looks like those gloves assasin use to conduct murders laugh.gif ) Anyway where they selling this in Malaysia? Do they have the Name printing service here?(only for 5 Pounds, which is around RM30)
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Yeah....like OJ Simpson's gloves....

Roll finger is another type of palm, the palm goes up to the sides of your fingers. More coverage of latex, but the fit is pretty snug, so U might have to get used to it first. In here the only roll finger gloves I've seen are the Puma King SL, & Adidas Fingertips. I have one Puma King SL (or Paul Robinson Special). Normal gloves, like your Adidas FS Replique, are flat palms. Dunno if Nike's gonna bring it here. In the UK, only Just Keepers have it...even Pro Direct can get it. It's an SMU, so must be like limited edition.

I think U can easily put your name on gloves, provided there's space for it. I use permanent-ink markers, not the normal types, but the ones U can use for any surface, & the ink is like rubber-type ones. It costs me RM7.00 & the marker can last like forever. I put my name on my Nike Tiempos, still there after more than 6 months. I put my name on boots as well, but once U polish your boots, it's gone.

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i used liquid paper on my blue/white asics gloves, they matched the colour and diddnt peel off thumbup.gif

oo.. my puma gloves are so snug and the latex hug the sides of my fingers, compared to the asics ones. maybe thats what rollfinger means
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 10 2006, 10:15 PM)
oo.. my puma gloves are so snug  and the latex hug the sides of my fingers, compared to the asics ones. maybe thats what rollfinger means
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Mmm.. maybe these pics can better explain the difference between rollfinger & flat palm...

Rollfinger Puma Icana
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Flat palm Puma Tourada
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U can see the difference quite clearly from the sides...

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Goalkeepers at the World Cup & their gloves.

So far, from the first 4 matches (that I watched), this is what I've seen:

1. Jens Lehmann, Germany : Adidas Response Pro
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2. Jose Porras, Costa Rica : Reusch Goaliator Pro Ortho-Tec
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3. Paul Robinson, England : Nike Tiempo Premier WC Special
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4. Aldo Bobadilla, Paraguay : Uhlsport Absolutgrip Supportframe X-Change Lite
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5. Shaka Hislop, Trinidad & Tobago : Dunno which Selsport, I think it's Wrappa
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6. Rami Shaaban, Sweden : Puma V-Konstrukt
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7. Roberto Abbodanzieri, Argentina : Uhlsport Absolutgrip Supportframe X-Change Lite

8. Jean-Jacques Titie, Ivory Coast : Reusch Goaliator Pro Ortho-Tec

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Oiks.... u all make my mouth water...

see now i gian want to buy them liao....

sighs...
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World cup keepers & their gloves continued

From the two matches last nite:

1. Edwin van Der Sar, Holland : Adidas Fingersave Alround E5S

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2. Jevric Dragoslav, Serbia Montenegro : Uhlsport Absolutgrip Ergonomic Aquasoft (old model). This is actually a wet weather glove

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3. Ebrahim Mirzapour, Iran : Puma v1.06

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4. Oswaldo Sanchez, Mexico : Reebok dunno what model. He'll be one of the only 2 keepers who wears Reebok this World Cup. The other is Casillas.

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World Cup keepers & gloves update:

1. Kawaguchi, Japan : Asics SMU, no pics that I can find.

2. Mark Schwazer, Australia : Uhlsport Chimera Absolutgrip Moulded (different colorway I think).

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3. Petr Cech, Czech Rep. : Lotto G-Force (I'ma get this one soon.. biggrin.gif )

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4. Casey Keller, USA : Puma v-Konstrukt (edi pic'ed above, different colorway only)

5. Buffon, Italy : Puma v-Konstrukt


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tenno, if u find the one that cech wear...
let me know too

i want to buy that also...
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QUOTE
4. Aldo Bobadilla, Paraguay : Uhlsport Absolutgrip Supportframe X-Change Lite
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For me this is the nicest gloves so far... rclxms.gif

Btw how come Lehmann uses Adidas? I thought he was using Nike all the while?

kcng : buy your new gloves already boh?

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He is using Nike, but for club football only. When he plays for Germany, he has to use Adidas products, & Adidas Response is Adidas' best non-FS gloves.

kcng : I tried the Lotto edi, but too small, so I asked the guy to get a size 10 for me. The one I tried was size 9. Really impressive gloves, fastening system like Uhlsport, gel inserts....cost : RM179.00
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jun 13 2006, 10:44 AM)
For me this is the nicest gloves  so far... rclxms.gif

Btw how come Lehmann uses Adidas? I thought he was using Nike all the while?

kcng : buy your new gloves already boh?
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 13 2006, 12:21 PM)
He is using Nike, but for club football only. When he plays for Germany, he has to use Adidas products, & Adidas Response is Adidas' best non-FS gloves.

kcng : I tried the Lotto edi, but too small, so I asked the guy to get a size 10 for me. The one I tried was size 9. Really impressive gloves, fastening system like Uhlsport, gel inserts....cost : RM179.00
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where ar ?
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Actually, I dunno where to get it retail coz I deal directly with a guy who works with Lotto. U can try Lotto shop in Pertama GF. But that guy said retail shop should be like RM10-20 more expensive. I can'w wait to get the gloves either, been dreaming about it since I tried it on Sunday... drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 13 2006, 02:14 PM)
Actually, I dunno where to get it retail coz I deal directly with a guy who works with Lotto. U can try Lotto shop in Pertama GF. But that guy said retail shop should be like RM10-20 more expensive. I can'w wait to get the gloves either, been dreaming about it since I tried it on Sunday... drool.gif  drool.gif
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Pertama GF ?
er.....
me in KL wor.....

price all no worries...
only worry is that where to get only
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jun 13 2006, 01:24 PM)
Pertama GF ?
er.....
me in KL wor.....

price all no worries...
only worry is that where to get only
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Aiks....Pertama Complex la I mean. On Ground Floor.... hehe.. sorry for the confusion...
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 13 2006, 02:34 PM)
Aiks....Pertama Complex la I mean. On Ground Floor.... hehe.. sorry for the confusion...
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okie thanks thanks
will go and hunt for it soo....
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World Cup keepers gloves from 13 & 14/6 games:

1. Lee Woon Jae, South Korea : Nike Total 90 Gunn Cut. Pic unavailable, but I've seen it in Nike's retail catalog, can download from Nike.com

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Found the image at Keepersport.com

2. Agassa Kossi, Togo : Puma v-Konstrukt

3. Fabian Barthez, France : Nike Vapor Grip 3

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4. Pascal Zuberbuehler, Switzerland : Reusch Goaliator

5. Dida, Brasil : Reusch Goaliator

6. Stipe Pletikosa, Croatia : Puma v-Kat RC

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I started playing goalkeeper at the age of 12, since that day, i have been playing in the position for 8 years. Bought my first gloves when i was 19 years old. It was an Umbro and it does not last long, only 2 months in use, the rubber part torn off. I think i must have wached it with soap powder.

I now currently using Puma gloves with rough surface (normal gloves have a smooth letax like surface to catch the ball), i prefer the rough surface because it lasted longer. Btw, i play futsal often. I have not been playing in large football pitch for two years.

I have a question to all goalie, do you wash your gloves after use? I used to and the gloves didn't last long.
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I dont wash it at all..
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I wash all my gloves after each use. If U go to keeper's websites, most of them will recommend washing the gloves after every use. It will make the latex last longer, & it will provide U with a clean latex surface for every game. I wash my gloves with "sabun buku", just rub a little soap on it, then I use "berus sabut", the normal laundry brush, not the plastic ones. Some gloves U can clean by just rubbing it under running water (like my Puma KSL). To dry it, I put some newspaper on the insides, let it dry naturally.

Gloves with hard latex palm lasts long, but don't grip as well as soft or supersoft latex. But if U play futsal, where U catch the ball less, then hard latex is suitable. Moisten the palm before use to make it soft and makes the latex lasts longer
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Woah, tenno
thanks dude....

usually i just wash if i feel like it which is 0 times
lol
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jun 14 2006, 11:18 AM)
I dont wash it at all..
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This guy gets a new gloves for every match. after use for one match he throw away and go buy new one..that's why he never wash.
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jun 14 2006, 05:11 PM)
This guy gets a new gloves for every match. after use for one match he throw away and go buy new one..that's why he never wash.
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jealous ar ?
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jun 14 2006, 04:12 PM)
jealous ar ?
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I not rich like you leh...can buy expensive gloves all...I have to wait for discount only can get...Or smuggle from UK. So you using what gloves for this saturday's game?

Anyway I twisted my legs from yesterday futsal...And today after went for a long walk for 2 hours the pain go away already...and they say we should rest if suffering from muscle strain...
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jun 14 2006, 05:24 PM)
I not rich like you leh...can buy expensive gloves all...I have to wait for discount only can get...Or smuggle from UK. So you using what gloves for this saturday's game?

Anyway I twisted my legs from yesterday futsal...And today after went for a long walk for 2 hours the pain go away already...and they say we should rest if suffering from muscle strain...
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dunno what gloves yet....
have to find my futsal wan first...

hmm... where have i place them ?
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Ehh gkeepers... anybody interested to join my futsal session on Thursdays? Badly in need of a regular keeper. Sports Planet Sunway, 9-11pm.
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QUOTE(arrowhead @ Jun 14 2006, 06:34 PM)
Ehh gkeepers... anybody interested to join my futsal session on Thursdays? Badly in need of a regular keeper. Sports Planet Sunway, 9-11pm.
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sorry ar...
too short notice wor...
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 14 2006, 11:31 AM)
I wash all my gloves after each use. If U go to keeper's websites, most of them will recommend washing the gloves after every use. It will make the latex last longer, & it will provide U with a clean latex surface for every game. I wash my gloves with "sabun buku", just rub a little soap on it, then I use "berus sabut", the normal laundry brush, not the plastic ones. Some gloves U can clean by just rubbing it under running water (like my Puma KSL). To dry it, I put some newspaper on the insides, let it dry naturally.

Gloves with hard latex palm lasts long, but don't grip as well as soft or supersoft latex. But if U play futsal, where U catch the ball less, then hard latex is suitable. Moisten the palm before use to make it soft and makes the latex lasts longer
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LoL
fellow goalie helping each other...
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This is a breakdown of gloves brand used by keepers at the World Cup (including reserves):

Uhlsport : 24
Nike : 17
Adidas : 16
Puma : 15
Reusch : 9
Umbro : 4
Selsport : 3
Lotto : 2
Reebok : 2
Stanno : 1
Ho : 2
Asics : 1

Last nite's game :

1. Iker Casillas, Spain : Reebok
2. Oleksander Shovkovski, Ukraine; Ali Boumnijel, Tunisia : Nike Tiempo Premier

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3. Ali Mabrouk, Saudi Arabia : Puma v-Konstrukt

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all those gloves are more than 3mm thick latex? only cheap ones have less than 3mm??
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All the gloves listed above comes with at least 4mm palm. Usually manufacturers will use 3mm palm for the cheaper versions of the expensive glove. Example : Nike Vapor Grip 3 uses 4mm Contact foam, while the Grip 3 uses 3mm.

Found some interesting pics, let see if i can post them here.

Mora, Ecuador
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Lehmann
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Rami Shaaban, Sweden
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Buffon
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Canizares
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Casillas, Canizares, Reina
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Petr Cech
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how much are the gloves they wear?
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QUOTE(miskin @ Jun 15 2006, 04:30 PM)
how much are the gloves they  wear?
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Which one ? Some of the gloves are not available here in Malaysia.
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Hello everyone! Goalie is 1 of my fav. post too, but not as pro as you all lar, lol. Only playing futsal lately since there are not enough players for big field. By the way, I'm from K.K. biggrin.gif

Anyone has injured his finger after trying to save a close range power shot? I've injured my finger after trying to save the shot but it still went in, sigh. And the futsal ball is heavier than regular football which make it even more painful. cry.gif

By the way, which glove is recommended for futsal use?
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QUOTE(nickenstein @ Jun 16 2006, 03:45 PM)
Hello everyone! Goalie is 1 of my fav. post too, but not as pro as you all lar, lol. Only playing futsal lately since there are not enough players for big field. By the way, I'm from K.K.  biggrin.gif

Anyone has injured his finger after trying to save a close range power shot? I've injured my finger after trying to save the shot but it still went in, sigh. And the futsal ball is heavier than regular football which make it even more painful.  cry.gif

By the way, which glove is recommended for futsal use?
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Hi there, welcome to the Goalie's thread.

My middle right finger has been injured since like...March, it only felt okay a couple of weeks ago, when I realized I could play without taping my finger. My right pinky was fractured without my realizing it, kept on playing, now couldn't get it straight.

For futsal, any gloves will do, the issue would be durability. So dun get those supersoft palm ones, won't last U a month. Buy those with hard palm, U dun really catch the ball in futsal.

Guys, I think I've pretty much covered all the gloves worn by World Cup keepers. So now I'ma post action pics.

Bobadilla

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Robinson

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Ukraine's Shovkovski

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Actually there's one type of training where you train to stiffen your finger muscles. Not sure but you have to keep your finger 'hard' at all times. Indirectly your finger muscles will act as a finger protection system.

Btw I saw one Puma gloves that comes free with a CD. Some goalkeeping clinic thingy la...with buffon's photo tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jun 16 2006, 05:04 PM)
Actually there's one type of training where you train to stiffen your finger muscles. Not sure but you have to keep your finger 'hard' at all times. Indirectly your finger muscles will act as a finger protection system.

Btw I saw one Puma gloves that comes free with a CD. Some goalkeeping clinic thingy la...with buffon's photo tongue.gif
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The CDs very old one la. I got one when I bought my King SL, it was 2003 CD. The CD of Buffon & Robinson. Robinson was still using Puma then, before switching to Nike. But still, it contains some useful info & training methods, tips, etc.
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QUOTE(nickenstein @ Jun 16 2006, 03:45 PM)
Hello everyone! Goalie is 1 of my fav. post too, but not as pro as you all lar, lol. Only playing futsal lately since there are not enough players for big field. By the way, I'm from K.K.  biggrin.gif

Anyone has injured his finger after trying to save a close range power shot? I've injured my finger after trying to save the shot but it still went in, sigh. And the futsal ball is heavier than regular football which make it even more painful.  cry.gif

By the way, which glove is recommended for futsal use?
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.. the first tournament i played in , just after 3 months i started playing football (!). i saved quite a few, but after playing my thumb was like bruised. i didnt know which save caused it though.
and i heard taping your fingers can decrease injuries, acting like fingersave. can any1 post it up? last time i used to get sprains but now dont have, maybe it means im saving less and less sweat.gif sweat.gif
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LoL
i brought a training gloves...
30 bucks only...

i cant find my ulhlsport and my nike's gloves...
hahahaha...
my adidas shin pad is missing too...

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i also bought training gloves for recreational play Rm 29 i win by RM1 . puma brand . is nike tiempo match good? coz its the same price as the pumas i bought..
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Couldn't find any of the action pics from Czech Repulic vs. Ghana, the best game so far I guess. Petr Cech showed why he is rated the best keeper in the world. Too bad he couldn't save his country from the defeat. Makes me really itchy now to get his gloves.

If any of U guys watched the M-League Premier Cup final between Malacca Telecom and Kedah, both the keepers, Megat Amir Faisal (Kedah) and V.Murugan was using Lotto G-Force.

arsenwagon: U sure the Tiempo Match is RM29? I think it's RM59.90. Anyways, it's an okay glove to buy.

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 18 2006, 08:19 PM)
i also bought training gloves for recreational play Rm 29 i win by RM1 . puma brand . is nike tiempo match good? coz its the same price as the pumas i bought..
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 19 2006, 11:04 AM)
Couldn't find any of the action pics from Czech Repulic vs. Ghana, the best game so far I guess. Petr Cech showed why he is rated the best keeper in the world. Too bad he couldn't save his country from the defeat. Makes me really itchy now to get his gloves.

If any of U guys watched the M-League Premier Cup final between Malacca Telecom and Kedah, both the keepers, Megat Amir Faisal (Kedah) and V.Murugan was using Lotto G-Force.

[b]arsenwagon[/]: U sure the Tiempo Match is RM29? I think it's RM59.90. Anyways, it's an okay glove to buy.
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he is talking about the puma wan ler, same like what i brought...
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Finally, found Kawaguchi's Asics gloves:

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Saved a penalty yesterday, I guess he had a great game.

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This guy also had a great game, Mark Schwazer

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Barthez

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woah, tenno, u really a lot of time ar...
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one day must kidnap you and ask u to teach me how to jaga my gloves properly...

1996 until now, i use like 30 pairs liao
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Lot of time ah ? No la, I just feel I need to take really good care of my gloves since I can't afford too many. I usually finish training at 10pm, then get home by 11pm. I clean my gloves, boots & jersey before having my dinner la, otherwise I won't clean them at all.
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Told you already... KCNG uses new gloves for every match. The only reason he uses his gloves for more than 2 matches is because the shop is close.
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 20 2006, 12:58 PM)
Lot of time ah ? No la, I just feel I need to take really good care of my gloves since I can't afford too many. I usually finish training at 10pm, then get home by 11pm. I clean my gloves, boots & jersey before having my dinner la, otherwise I won't clean them at all.
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finish trainning at 10pm reach home at 11pm and eat dinner at midnight ?
woah
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jun 20 2006, 12:20 PM)
Told you already... KCNG uses new gloves for every match. The only reason he uses his gloves for more than 2 matches is because the shop is close.
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 20 2006, 11:58 AM)
Lot of time ah ? No la, I just feel I need to take really good care of my gloves since I can't afford too many. I usually finish training at 10pm, then get home by 11pm. I clean my gloves, boots & jersey before having my dinner la, otherwise I won't clean them at all.
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You eat your dinner at 12 midnight ?

Don't mind me asking, you're a full time goalkeeper for some team ?

You don't go to school/collage/work ?
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Jun 20 2006, 11:34 PM)
You eat your dinner at 12 midnight ?

Don't mind me asking, you're a full time goalkeeper for some team ?

You don't go to school/collage/work ?
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No la, if I'm a full time keeper then I won't have to worry about my gloves. I have a day job with a local PC manufacturer/SI. I play for Comics Corner FC/Brazilian Football Academy in the KL League. We train twice a week at nite, then we have matches on Sundays. Most of the players in my team works for banks, etc. Some also work for the Brazilian Football academy itself as coaches, so they do play football full time la... biggrin.gif
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Ah ok ok
can we join ar ?
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jun 21 2006, 12:36 PM)
Ah ok ok
can we join ar ?
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Join ah ? Not sure la. Most of the players here joined the team through referrals. We have to undergo trials for about a month, then the coach & the team owner will decide if you're good enuf for the team. Some very good players won't have to wait a month. If the coach decides to include U in the team then you will be registered into the KL League team la.

I've seen numerous players come & go in the 6 months I've been in the team. Currently we are short of keepers. Maybe I can ask la, but then U must commit to the team, at least come for training during your trial period la. Currently we have one striker going for trials.

Prospect? Quite okay la. Since we are training in PKNS Kelana Jaya, chances of being spotted by PKNS team is good. & we are in the KL League, most of the time KL team coaches/managers will watch our games. But for me, since I'm almost 30 edi, I have to be really, really good before I can hope to get invited for trials with those teams.

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Tenno - just out of curiosity hor... when playing in leagues with these teams, do you guys get paid, or are they win bonuses? Boleh cari makan if play full-time in the KL / S'gor club leagues?
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QUOTE(arrowhead @ Jun 21 2006, 02:48 PM)
Tenno - just out of curiosity hor... when playing in leagues with these teams, do you guys get paid, or are they win bonuses? Boleh cari makan if play full-time in the KL / S'gor club leagues?
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It depends on what team U join la. Some teams consists only of the employees of the sponsor company. For instance, Deloitte Warriors is owned by the Deloitte firm, so I dun think they pay la. In my case, we are not really a big team, so previously we don't get paid. Only recently the owner agreed to pay match allowance, if Ur a starter U get certain amount, reserves get less la. But not big amount, enuf to cover your trip to the game only la, and proly meal after the game. In other words: Duit Minyak. Most of other teams also dun give you anything, unless U win a tournament, then the prize money will be split la.

But the thing is, U dun have to worry about jerseys & all. & some teams even provide boots & gloves. Last year my team gave a big bag full of clothings, this year dunno la, half season edi, still no sign of anything. Then after the season is over, my team goes for trip, last year it was Singapore, we had some friendlies there as well. This year I think it's Singapore again, becoz sportswear there is so much more cheaper.


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Tenno, so you're playing just for the fun of football and not cari makan la. Is the schedule tight arr by the way? Izit tough juggling your career and your footballing life?
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jun 21 2006, 03:19 PM)
Tenno, so you're playing just for the fun of football and not cari makan la. Is the schedule tight arr by the way? Izit tough juggling your career and your footballing life?
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Actually I find it more difficult to juggle my personal life with football. Playing football won't affect my career, at least with the team & the league I'm playing with, becoz the training is at night & we have games on Saturdays & Sundays.

On game days I leave home by 3.30 for 5pm matches. So whatever I wanna do I have to do in the morning, like helping with household chores & stuff. On training days I get home by 11pm. Earlier in the season when we played in both Damansara & KL Leagues sometimes I have to play in both games (Saturday and Sunday) becoz we only have 2 keepers. So basically I dun have free time on weekends.

When I play like this & dun get paid or anything, ppl will ask why I do it, sacrifice so much, getting hurt & all, for what? In my case, I'm so used to playing sports competitively (since I was 15), it's hard to hold back. U need commitment, & make ppl around U understand (in my case, my wife). This will be my last shot la, I will quit playing anything competitively when I'm 35, I promised my wife. But that was what I said when I played basketball. Dunno when I can stop.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Currently, Buffon is the world most expensive goalkeeper right? May i know who is the second most expensive goalkeeper after Buffon?
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Currently, Buffon is the world most expensive goalkeeper right? May i know who is the second most expensive goalkeeper after Buffon?
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me ?
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 21 2006, 02:20 PM)
Join ah ? Not sure la. Most of the players here joined the team through referrals. We have to undergo trials for about a month, then the coach & the team owner will decide if you're good enuf for the team. Some very good players won't have to wait a month. If the coach decides to include U in the team then you will be registered into the KL League team la.

I've seen numerous players come & go in the 6 months I've been in the team. Currently we are short of keepers. Maybe I can ask la, but then U must commit to the team, at least come for training during your trial period la. Currently we have one striker going for trials.

Prospect? Quite okay la. Since we are training in PKNS Kelana Jaya, chances of being spotted by PKNS team is good. & we are in the KL League, most of the time KL team coaches/managers will watch our games. But for me, since I'm almost 30 edi, I have to be really, really good before I can hope to get invited for trials with those teams.
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Kelana jaya and some matches in damansara
ok what.....
quite near my working place also...

hmmm.... you can propose and see..
i am 23 this year....
i can commit if the timming is right
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OK, let me see if I can slot U in the next training session, possibly Friday. I'll let U know tomorrow.
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OK, let me see if I can slot U in the next training session, possibly Friday. I'll let U know tomorrow.
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thanks thanks
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hmm.. how can i missed this thread? been a keeper since 14, stopped at 21 and chose paintball. Reason ? Frustrated cuz no team to play with.

well, nothing really impressive under the belt, played for school team since secondary, then selected for college team ( never go for training after being selected in teh selection due to reason that the training ground was too far and i dun have transport )

achievements? 2 nose bleed, 4 stitches on my lower lips, plenty of cuts and wounds on elbow, knees and legs, Knock out in the field once ( got kick right at the temple ) and what else ? plenty of finger and wrist sprain?

glove used, uncountable. 8 years of playing as a GK does burn a lot of glove rubber. But i mainly go for PUMA gloves as they are more approachable/value for money for a student ( usually use those above RM100 gloves from PUMA )
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Thanks for the enlightenment, Tenno. I'd always thought footballers were millionaires. LOL. Is your team eligible to play in Malaysia's FA / League Cup?

kcng - good luck with your "trial". Once you get into the team don't forget us, and cannot ffk already...
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 20 2006, 11:58 AM)
Lot of time ah ? No la, I just feel I need to take really good care of my gloves since I can't afford too many. I usually finish training at 10pm, then get home by 11pm. I clean my gloves, boots & jersey before having my dinner la, otherwise I won't clean them at all.
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that's wad i call a real GK, washes his glove right after each game! heheh


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tenno, where did u get your reusch and uhlsport gloves?
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QUOTE(arrowhead @ Jun 21 2006, 06:10 PM)
Thanks for the enlightenment, Tenno. I'd always thought footballers were millionaires. LOL. Is your team eligible to play in Malaysia's FA / League Cup?

kcng - good luck with your "trial". Once you get into the team don't forget us, and cannot ffk already...
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Millionaires ah ? No la, but those playing in the M-League do earn quite a lot. Example, PKNS' reserve keeper earns around RM2000 monthly, & that's playing in one of the not-so-rich teams la. & keepers usually will be the lowest paid player in the team, depending on experience.

We are gunning for promotion to the FAM's Premier Club league. To do that we must be in the top 2 of the current league. If we get to play in the Premier Club, then the club must start paying us salary la, as stipulated in the FAM's rules.

exkay: Reusch was my favorite glove, but now nobody carry them anymore in KL. Uhlsport, never could afford them even now, but U can find them in Pertama, but only the common models la, not the latest ones. Price ? Uhlsport's cheapest is around RM130.00 & that's a very low end model. The Absolutgrips goes for around RM240.00

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woah
i could use the extra cash tho
lol

need to get my fitness up to par again
time to continue my morning jogs before work
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 21 2006, 06:20 PM)
exkay: Reusch was my favorite glove, but now nobody carry them anymore in KL. Uhlsport, never could afford them even now, but U can find them in Pertama, but only the common models la, not the latest ones. Price ? Uhlsport's cheapest is around RM130.00 & that's a very low end model. The Absolutgrips goes for around RM240.00
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yeah,, tried my fren's reusch once and fell in love with it but never seem to be able to find it here. sigh..

as for uhlsport, no comment yet as i've no chance of putting them on for now.
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jun 21 2006, 06:25 PM)
woah
i could use the extra cash tho
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need to get my fitness up to par again
time to continue my morning jogs before work
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QUOTE(exkay @ Jun 21 2006, 07:40 PM)
not to forget sit ups and back ups as well.
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yeah i will do that too....
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Haha..so KCNG tomorrow going for trial arr? good luck..hehe...
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dunno yet la
tenno havent get back to me yet

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still waiting
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Very sorry kcng, was on leave yesterday. We don't have training today, so I'll talk to my coach after our next game on Sunday.
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 23 2006, 04:59 PM)
Very sorry kcng, was on leave yesterday. We don't have training today, so I'll talk to my coach after our next game on Sunday.
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ah no problem tenno,
just let me know in advance ler...

hopefully wont let u down...
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help meeeee...... got any exercise to improve reflexes ah. my reactions been so slow lately, let in 2 goals from out of box.. like those epl gk .. lol. last time header close range also can save sad.gif . i guess its hard to regain form after missing like 3 months of gking..
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 23 2006, 11:59 PM)
help meeeee...... got any exercise to improve reflexes ah. my reactions been so slow lately, let in 2 goals from out of box.. like those epl gk .. lol. last time header close range also can save sad.gif . i guess its hard to regain form after missing like 3 months of gking..
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Depends la, if powerful shot and aim for top corner that's nothing much you can do about it. Want improve reflex? Practice practice practice....
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 23 2006, 11:59 PM)
help meeeee...... got any exercise to improve reflexes ah. my reactions been so slow lately, let in 2 goals from out of box.. like those epl gk .. lol. last time header close range also can save sad.gif . i guess its hard to regain form after missing like 3 months of gking..
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Quite a few things you can do. The easiest one, U can do it at home even, is the one where U hold the ball between your legs with your hand (both hands) like....criss-crossed. Then switch your hands, & don't let the ball drop. Quite hard to explain without pics actually.

Then U can have few shooting practise, this exercise requires 2 ppl (including U). U stand facing the goal (with your back to the helper). Then when the helper gives a signal, turn to face him, at the same time he will kick the ball to you. The ultimate one would be the shooting practise with 5-6 balls la. The balls shot at you continuously, one ball after U've saved the other. Do 3-4 sets.

To improve sharpness, I play video games, fast-paced FPS like Quake III works for me. I play for an hour before the match.


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or you can ask 2 person to shoot 2 balls at you at the same time...

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Anybody saw how Sanchez of Mexico faced the penalty in Mexico's last group game ? Very unique, never saw anybody do that before. But anyway, it didn't work for him, couldn't get to the ball.
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LoL
i found my uhl gloves and my shin pad...

rupa rupa nya its in a pile of junk
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 26 2006, 12:08 PM)

To improve sharpness, I play video games, fast-paced FPS like Quake III works for me. I play for an hour before the match.
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sadly the more i play counter strike the worse my reflexes sweat.gif
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 26 2006, 03:13 PM)
sadly the more i play counter strike the worse my reflexes  sweat.gif
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because u use your fingers only
lol....

and ask u to catch ball
instead u avoid ball because you think its a frag grenade

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LOL> haha. wow today i went to see guys 2 yrs older than me play.. wtf their kick so hard, if inside penalty area its like impossible to stop if they shoot full strength.. but my class still can win them lol.. even tho our shooting weak like hell. 1 hand i can send over the bar. i wonder they wear boots make shots harder?? coz when they wear boot got a "boom" sound.. which is cool rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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practice ler....
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 26 2006, 02:13 PM)
sadly the more i play counter strike the worse my reflexes  sweat.gif
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Well, as I said, playing fast-paced FPS like Quake III can improve sharpness, not really reflexes. It can improve alertness, awareness & sharpness. In the US, some of the american football teams let their players play video games before their matches.

I hope I can get my Lotto G-Force today, so that I can test it in training. Hopefully.....hopefully... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

kcng: I've a suggestion. We have a training session today at 8pm in PKNS Kelana Jaya. Why don't U just come & watch us training first ?

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KL Division 1 league.... got league is it?
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keeper use lotto g force for what sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 27 2006, 04:20 PM)
keeper use lotto g force for what  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Lotto G-Force is a glove la, worn by Petr Cech.

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Maybe U thought it was the boots ? The boots is called Zhero G

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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 27 2006, 11:17 AM)
Well, as I said, playing fast-paced FPS like Quake III can improve sharpness, not really reflexes. It can improve alertness, awareness & sharpness. In the US, some of the american football teams let their players play video games before their matches.

I hope I can get my Lotto G-Force today, so that I can test it in training. Hopefully.....hopefully... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

kcng: I've a suggestion. We have a training session today at 8pm in PKNS Kelana Jaya. Why don't U just come & watch us training first ?
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thanks for the invite tenno....
i cant make it for today

really sorry...
next time i will try too...

thanks again...
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 27 2006, 05:06 PM)
Lotto G-Force is a glove la, worn by Petr Cech.

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Maybe U thought it was the boots ? The boots is called Zhero G
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yea lol.i tot g force is the hgihest end boots. i tot why gkeeper using that..
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 28 2006, 03:49 PM)
yea lol.i tot g force is the hgihest end boots. i tot why gkeeper using that..
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tenno - when ar is your other training session ?
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jun 28 2006, 05:08 PM)
dude
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PS -> actually i also dunno wan
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pot calling kettle black whistling.gif whistling.gif eh why gk thread so cold response sweat.gif sweat.gif only us 3 spamming stuff.. lol.. i tot we got many gk here . gk ratio is like unproportional.. should be 1 gk for every 10 outfield players.. but we have like 4 gk for 30 outfielders.. laugh.gif but still.. we lack gk for this thread

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Finally got my gloves on Tuesday night, but not in time to use for the training session. Got to test it during our friendly last nite. I cannot say I'm too impressed, the grip was mixed, sometime it was okay, sometimes like non-existent (the grip). To make it worse, we played using the Finals Teamgeist (yeah, the gold one). But in the end it was okay.

I guess the mixed grip was to be expected coz I didn't give the gloves pre-wash. Some gloves need to be washed before their used for the 1st time, to remove materials like soap & chemical used during the manufacturing process. Some gloves, like Nike dun need to be pre-washed.

I'll write a review for the G-Force sometime next week, after I can get some pics. I'ma do the same for KeeperZone, seemed like nobody is reviewing this gloves yet.

kcng: Our next training session will be next week, most likely Tuesday at 8pm. Maybe U can come & watch first so that U'll know what is to be expected for a keeper in my team.
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 29 2006, 11:16 AM)
Finally got my gloves on Tuesday night, but not in time to use for the training session. Got to test it during our friendly last nite. I cannot say I'm too impressed, the grip was mixed, sometime it was okay, sometimes like non-existent (the grip). To make it worse, we played using the Finals Teamgeist (yeah, the gold one). But in the end it was okay.

I guess the mixed grip was to be expected coz I didn't give the gloves pre-wash. Some gloves need to be washed before their used for the 1st time, to remove materials like soap & chemical used during the manufacturing process. Some gloves, like Nike dun need to be pre-washed.

I'll write a review for the G-Force sometime next week, after I can get some pics. I'ma do the same for KeeperZone, seemed like nobody is reviewing this gloves yet.

kcng: Our next training session will be next week, most likely Tuesday at 8pm. Maybe U can come & watch first so that U'll know what is to be expected for a keeper in my team.
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just keep me in check.....
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Lotto G-Force
This is the glove that Petr Cech was wearing throughout Czech Republic's short campaign in the World Cup. The price is RM169.90, available from Lotto Shops in KL (actually there's only one in Pertama Complex)

Construction
This glove is well constructed throughout, with some places double-stitched for durability. The palm is 4mm Supersoft latex, & the backhand is also latex. There is some strategically placed silicon on the knuckles to aid punching. The G-Force in the name is actually protective gel inserts placed on the backhand (see pic). These inserts are supposed to protect your wrist when stopping shots. Two sets of inserts are included, soft and hard. The inserts are easily changed even when you have the gloves on. I had one instance where the inserts' velcro closure accidentally opened after making a save, but the inserts fits snug enuf to prevent it from coming out. Personally, I don't feel any difference with either inserts on, & I can tell the difference without the inserts. But some of my pals said that U'r gonna need more protection on your fingers than Ur wrists.
Closure system is similar to Uhlsport's, with a wide elastic wrist band & overlapping double closure. The bandage of the Lotto Premier Cech has partially been covered in latex for increased support, which also incorporates a new dual latex wrist belt for variable wrist comfort and protection.

Palm
The 4mm Active Response Feel supersoft latex gave me mixed grip the first time I used it. I got it quite late so I had no time to give it a pre-wash before using it in a friendly match. To make matters worse, we were using the Teamgeist Final ball (the gold color one), and even when I moisten the palm about 30 minutes before the game started, it didn't achieve full adhesiveness. Fortunately it didn't give me any trouble during the game. When I went home I gave it a wash & the grip has improved dramatically. Durability was excellent, no chipping at all after my first game. But the mysterious thing is that it developed yellow spots after I moisten the palm for the first time, & these yellow spots didn't come off after the first wash.

Comfort & Fit
Very comfortable with Dura Ripstop Nylon backhand. There are three silicon pads called Cushion Cells on the knuckles to give more power when U punch the ball. A little on the heavy side, compared to my Nike Tiempo Grips which is very light. I use a size 10, tried a 9 but the fit is too snug for my liking, so I took the size 10. Very easy to get into & to take off.

Overall I'm satisfied with my acquisition although I have to test it a few more times in training before I use it in matches.

Lotto G Force

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The backhand

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The GForce support

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woah, tenno i want to see your gloves in real life one day ler
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olol another glove with funky features. but actually if they could sell the latex pad separately that'd be good unsure.gif sweat.gif usually its the latex which wears out the quickest.. but the fingersave or whatever features are still usable.. so its kinda wasting to throw away the glove tongue.gif tunit got changeable latex?
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Interchangeable Latex? Lol I don't think it would ever be invented coz the gloves sales will drop if such technology is developed.
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jul 1 2006, 12:19 PM)
Interchangeable Latex? Lol I don't think it would ever be invented coz the gloves sales will drop if such technology is developed.
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Well, actually, there is such technology in Adidas Tunit gloves. 3 palms are offered : Dry, Wet & Hard ground. The palm is interchangeable through a series of zippers & velcro fasteners. It's not available yet anywhere, most of the keeper's forums don't really like the idea.

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Hmm...Tunit gloves... Any idea wats the main drawback of this concept?
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jul 1 2006, 12:38 PM)
Hmm...Tunit gloves... Any idea wats the main drawback of this concept?
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Comfort. I dun think I'll be comfortable wearing gloves with zippers inside. There's also a risk of the zippers accidentally opened. I dun think U'll see any of the top keepers using this anytime soon.
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tunit is just crap.. the price goes to the design and stuff.and also the fact that the uppers etc can be changed.any personally know keepers who use k leather boots ? lol and hard ground keeper gloves ?? is it coz keepers glove always graze agaisnt the ground?? so they create durable ones for different surfaces?i bet its like this.i'd prolly get a duh tongue.gif

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hmm... just bring different glove for the match to prepare for playing condition... wont that be easier ?
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 2 2006, 09:45 AM)
hmm... just bring different glove for the match to prepare for playing condition... wont that be easier ?
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Some people not rich like you can bring different gloves for every match... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 2 2006, 09:45 AM)
hmm... just bring different glove for the match to prepare for playing condition... wont that be easier ?
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Yeah, that'll be a lot easier actually. Experience helps too, when U have several gloves, U'll know which glove is suitable for what condition, although the gloves looks the same. We dun have the luxury of having different glove models for different weather being sold here.

I bring two pairs to almost all games, except those that I already know what to use. My Puma gloves dun really have good wet weather grip, my Nike's better, so I use my Puma for dry conditions. Like today, I'ma test my Lotto GForce for my first match, so as a backup I'll have my Nike along, just in case I'm not satisfied with the Lotto.
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ALOT EASIER.. BUT more expensses..
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Some people not rich like you can bring different gloves for every match... whistling.gif
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tenno : so this tuesday you guys have training ?
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jul 2 2006, 03:10 PM)
ALOT EASIER.. BUT more expensses..
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Well, not really. The complete Tunit glove set with everything (3 palm types, 2-3 backhands) will cost you about 100 pounds, that's almost RM700 edi. There is Tunit replicas available in KL, U can't change anything, for about RM90. I saw it in Pertama last week.

I used my Lotto G Force yesterday & I think I'ma stick to it. Excellent grip, unbelievable durability (no chipping at all). Too bad I couldn't prevent a late equalizer yesterday, we led 2-0 at half time, but had to settle for 2-2 draw against Kilat KL (TNB), which had two Premier League players.

kcng: Tomorrow maybe la, dunno yet coz my coach is still in Bangkok. But the assistant said tomorrow got, so I can only confirm tomorrow la.
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jul 3 2006, 09:28 AM)
I used my Lotto G Force yesterday & I think I'ma stick to it. Excellent grip, unbelievable durability (no chipping at all). Too bad I couldn't prevent a late equalizer yesterday, we led 2-0 at half time, but had to settle for 2-2 draw against Kilat KL (TNB), which had two Premier League players.

kcng: Tomorrow maybe la, dunno yet coz my coach is still in Bangkok. But the assistant said tomorrow got, so I can only confirm tomorrow la.
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at least u not like my dumb second choice keeper act pro.. so noob. we led 3 - 0 ,.. dunno what they ate during half time they got back 3-5,in less than 20 mins, since we form 1, each half is maybe 20 mins..,i wonder why the teacher so dumb still let him play sweat.gif sweat.gif . rasuah ke rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif when i made one mistake he terus sub me doh.gif doh.gif . this guy got a breakaway slide liao then the ball roll off his hands , and for dunno what reason he keeps punting into opponents lol sweat.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jul 5 2006, 12:08 AM)
lol, got ppl watch training seessions wan  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  what u all do during training is it drills(like jogging around and passing the ball back and forth) , or like match training...
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You watch the Continental Tyre Ad on TV before? You see they use the big cannon to shoot the ball towards the goalkeeper, that one la.... hahaha...go use a big meriam shoot the balls towards the GK....
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this world cup's best goal keeper : all hail great buffon thumbup.gif rclxms.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jul 5 2006, 12:08 AM)
lol, got ppl watch training seessions wan  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  what u all do during training is it drills(like jogging around and passing the ball back and forth) , or like match training...
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We normally do some drills first, passing, etc. Sometimes we have shooting/finishing practise, normally ends with match. Keepers will do our own thing la..
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 7 2006, 11:29 AM)
so tenno this weekend you got game or not ?
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Please ask tenno via PM.

Thank you.

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wah.. good.. a thread for keeper... me oso play keeper in futsal.. not fit enuff to play in std football tongue.gif


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guys, try this out!!!

http://www.pumafootball.com/buffon.jsp

top scorer is making 35000 shots can u beat the score?
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take forever to shoot...

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lol just had a friendly agaisnt the 4sc2 class.. im in 4 science 1. lol i tot the nerdier u get the lousier u play football , but we thrashed them 7-4... cant call a thrash lar.. but still the score is good enuff to make keepers weep cry.gif cry.gif
i lepas 4 ballz... they keep blaming me for not coming out on 1 on 1.. i tot u need to wait the striker dribble a little bit too far only come out? like, wait for him to make a slight mistake and pounce on the ball. oh well, i saved a few,.. but i so scared to spill the ball i just palm them away, one time i palmed into striker and kena score ROFL/the funny thing is the opponent keeper made an oliver khan nutmeg. u know, he duck to catch the ball then the ball slowly rolled pass both his hands, then pass his kangkanged legs .. LOL. the field was in tears coz laughing too much.

my puma gloves served me well,not even any signs of peeling, but i still need a guide on how to tape fingers. coz i miscatched(i was off guard, so my fingers werent in ready position), then my thumb area now swelling sweat.gif still can type, but cannot hold a mug sweat.gif

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arsenwagon.. smile.gif

a keeper has to be brave in taking knocks... so dont afraid la to rush out in 1-1 situation... the chances opponents to score will reduce greatly... but if he's a good striker he just might chip you and you can only see the ball went over your head biggrin.gif

i'm a short keeper.. so not very good to play in real football, so i play futsal a lot, and my team mates say i'm a good keeper!! smile.gif but that's for others to decide.. i just play for fun!! smile.gif
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i also wan t to play for fun but my teammates keep scoldingme -.- . yeah i was scared they would chip it over, but i went 1 on 1 rush and the striker kicked at my outstretched leg. can say its luck also, but i did put my leg out and made myself big tongue.gif
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jul 8 2006, 12:25 PM)
lol just had a friendly agaisnt the 4sc2 class.. im in 4 science 1. lol i tot the nerdier u get the lousier u play football , but we thrashed them 7-4... cant call a thrash lar.. but still the score is good enuff to make keepers weep  cry.gif  cry.gif
i lepas 4 ballz... they keep blaming me for not coming out on 1 on 1.. i tot u need to wait the striker dribble a little bit too far only come out? like, wait for him to make a slight mistake and pounce on the ball. oh well, i saved a few,.. but i so scared to spill the ball i just palm them away, one time i palmed into striker and kena score ROFL/the funny thing is the opponent keeper made an oliver khan nutmeg. u know, he duck to catch the ball then the ball slowly rolled pass both his hands, then pass his kangkanged legs .. LOL. the field was in tears coz laughing too much.

my puma gloves served me well,not even any signs of peeling, but i still need a guide on how to tape fingers. coz i miscatched(i was off guard, so my fingers werent in ready position), then my thumb area now swelling  sweat.gif  still can type, but cannot hold a mug sweat.gif
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coming out one on one a lil bit early might be good might be bad, depending on your decision / situation. but by coming out, the striker have smaller angle of scoring and u're putting pressure on him, that's when u then see the chance of him making mistake or dribbling the ball too far away and prance on the ball.

however, do learn how to protect yourself as i ended up with bleeding nose several times, and got knocked out once ( striker strike on my temple instead of the ball ).

when ducking to catch a rolling ball, always bent one of your knees towards the middle to seal your kangkang area just incase u slipped.

as for taping fingers, how did u get that sprain ? Personally, i'm more towards punching it out than palming it away. if it's supposed to be palmed, it will be palmed out of play, but heck, that's my way of playing GK.
( when catching high ball, always let your two thumbs touching each other. )

Do more finger exercise to strengthen your fingers.


by the way, which school are u from ?
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QUOTE(baok @ Jul 8 2006, 01:23 PM)
arsenwagon.. smile.gif

a keeper has to be brave in taking knocks... so dont afraid la to rush out in 1-1 situation... the chances opponents to score will reduce greatly... but if he's a good striker he just might chip you and you can only see the ball went over your head biggrin.gif

i'm a short keeper.. so not very good to play in real football, so i play futsal a lot, and my team mates say i'm a good keeper!! smile.gif but that's for others to decide.. i just play for fun!! smile.gif
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how short are u ? i'm only 173cm (approx )
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how short are u ? i'm only 173cm (approx )
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i'm short!!! just 160cm!!! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(exkay @ Jul 8 2006, 02:42 PM)
coming out one on one a lil bit early might be good might be bad, depending on your decision / situation. but by coming out, the striker have smaller angle of scoring and u're putting pressure on him, that's when u then see the chance of him making mistake or dribbling the ball too far away and prance on the ball.

however, do learn how to protect yourself as i ended up with bleeding nose several times, and got knocked out once ( striker strike on my temple instead of the ball ). 

when ducking to catch a rolling ball, always bent one of your knees towards the middle to seal your kangkang area just incase u slipped.

as for taping fingers, how did u get that sprain ? Personally, i'm more towards punching it out than palming it away. if it's supposed to be palmed, it will be palmed out of play, but heck, that's my way of playing GK.
( when catching high ball, always let your two thumbs touching each other. )

Do more finger exercise to strengthen your fingers.
by the way, which school are u from ?
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yealol.. i scared he shoot 60 mph ball into my face or worse some other body parts resembling an elephant\s trunk. whistling.gif i tak pernah ball masuk kangkang, coz i do what u said, my knee will always be the rebounder.. hehe. its automatic, i not consciously put the knee there.
that sprain is coz of .. picture this. ur thumb pointing towards the ball. u ask people shoot at ur thumb . get the idea ? sweat.gif sweat.gif that measn ur thumb compressed by the ball lor cry.gif cry.gif now i notice got a blue black patch already. lucky its my left hand, if my right hand can say bye bye to homework.. that day my newbie friend become keeper for 1st day terus his fingers all sprained and masuk hospital. lol.
lucky i nvr get anything bad when 1 on 1 with opponent.. coz i always form a "cobra" style with my arms protecting my face. u can find this at jb goalkeeping i think. but once an idiot go kick my head after i slide into his leg.. maybe he malu already. haha

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jul 8 2006, 06:28 PM)
yealol.. i scared he shoot 60 mph ball into my face or worse some other body parts resembling an elephant\s trunk.  whistling.gif  i tak pernah ball masuk kangkang, coz i do what u said, my knee will always be the rebounder.. hehe. its automatic, i not consciously put the knee there.
that sprain is coz of .. picture this. ur thumb pointing towards the ball. u ask people shoot at ur thumb . get the idea ?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif that measn ur thumb compressed by the ball lor  cry.gif  cry.gif  now i notice got a blue black patch already. lucky its my left hand, if my right hand can say bye bye to homework.. that day my newbie friend become keeper for 1st day terus his fingers all sprained and masuk hospital. lol.
lucky i nvr get anything bad when 1 on 1 with opponent.. coz i always form a "cobra" style with my arms protecting my face. u can find this at jb goalkeeping i think. but once an idiot go kick my head after i slide into his leg.. maybe he malu already. haha
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go get someone to have a look at your thumb. a keeper with a sprained finger will give trouble in future if it's not taken care of now.
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jul 8 2006, 07:28 PM)
yealol.. i scared he shoot 60 mph ball into my face or worse some other body parts resembling an elephant\s trunk.  whistling.gif  i tak pernah ball masuk kangkang, coz i do what u said, my knee will always be the rebounder.. hehe. its automatic, i not consciously put the knee there.
that sprain is coz of .. picture this. ur thumb pointing towards the ball. u ask people shoot at ur thumb . get the idea ?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif that measn ur thumb compressed by the ball lor  cry.gif  cry.gif  now i notice got a blue black patch already. lucky its my left hand, if my right hand can say bye bye to homework.. that day my newbie friend become keeper for 1st day terus his fingers all sprained and masuk hospital. lol.
lucky i nvr get anything bad when 1 on 1 with opponent.. coz i always form a "cobra" style with my arms protecting my face. u can find this at jb goalkeeping i think. but once an idiot go kick my head after i slide into his leg.. maybe he malu already. haha
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wah, u use cobra style ar... side ball u ma jialat ?

1 on 1, usually i just rush out straight and slide in only... with arms spread as wide as possible and the legs like scissors when i slide in....

99% of the time they will try to dribble pass, so dun worry about them shooting at your didi...
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 9 2006, 06:23 PM)
wah, u use cobra style ar... side ball u ma jialat ?

1 on 1, usually i just rush out straight and slide in only... with arms spread as wide as possible and the legs like scissors when i slide in....

99% of the time they will try to dribble pass, so dun worry about them shooting at your didi...
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1% decided to revenge you on blocking their earlier shots, and u'll be taken out of field by the Medics with broken eggs.
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yea.also got noobtards who cannot aim properly but decided to shoot hard as possible in order to make up for the inaccuracy. i tot wear cups can? u all dont wear ah.. i nvr had ballz kena there when gking.. but when not gking got la sweat.gif sweat.gif when cobra style, u slide sideways ma.. so the only thing scared is he lob over u. coz u kinda like lying down sideways when u slide him cobra style. u can see thru the middle gap of the cobra, but the gap isnt big enough for ballz to pass thru... side shots are not a problem, coz ur legs can tahan..but seriously. 1 on 1's is not ur fault if u fail to do anything... coz its actually defender's prob. unless u playing with noobtards like i do, the striker got a pass in front of goal, and my teammates scol dme sweat.gif i ask u who noob, the defender who dint mark the goal scorer, or me.

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well, i myself kena a few very bad ones ( but well still workable tho. )
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well, i myself kena a few very bad ones ( but well still workable tho. )
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You sure or not? You wouldn't know untill you have kids la... laugh.gif

anyway in 1 on 1 situation I sometimes do some rational thinking before taking a dive. In a normal friendly game I tend not to rush and dive for the ball, if can use leg kick out la...
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1% decided to revenge you on blocking their earlier shots, and u'll be taken out of field by the Medics with broken eggs.
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oi
no need so brutal can or not ar ?
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jul 10 2006, 02:07 AM)
You sure or not? You wouldn't know untill you have kids la... laugh.gif

anyway in 1 on 1 situation I sometimes do some rational thinking before taking a dive. In a normal friendly game I tend not to rush and dive for the ball, if can use leg kick out la...
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you should go straight... if u go then stop then go again, they (strikers) will have time to think.... because when u stop then go again, you give them a split second to take another method of going pass you.....

usually when i rush out wan ar.... i bring everything along with me, ball, players, grass/mud/sand/water

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Guys, thanks for keeping this thread alive, been away since last Friday, preparing for my new job. Congrats Italia for winning the World Cup, Buffon made some outstanding saves (well, actually just one in ET). Never thought of Buffon as a penalty saver, was proven right.

arsenwagon: How did U hurt your thumb ? Actually, the thumb is the least likely to get hurt, if it does get hurt, then it's really bad. I'm an advocate of taping your fingers before playing, & I've never taped my thumb. Normally the index, middle & ring fingers are them most likely to get injured. So use surgical or athletic tape & tape the middle joints. The tape shouldn't be too thick that U block bloodflow though.

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( when catching high ball, always let your two thumbs touching each other. )

Based on my experience, if U should have ur thumbs close when catching any type of balls (except grounders, when U do the reverse W). The secret is to cushion the ball, don't let your palm get to rigid when catching, relax. Catching the ball is the best way to secure it, & U'd have time to settle down & let Ur teammates catch some breath. U can punch the ball when under pressure & try to make a good, firm punch, if possible, directed away from the opponents.

One on ones: Experience will play a vital role. Saw the save Kahn made from Pauleta in the third placing match-ups ? Kahn stood right at the edge of the box, stood his ground & he knew Pauleta would try to curve the ball to his left, becoz the right side is already covered.
U'd have to judge the distance between the U, the ball & the onrushing striker. If you can get to the ball first, then go for it. If the striker is dribbling, rush to him & wait for him to make mistake, normally he'll try to dribble around U. That's when U make Ur move.
Don't stop when making a run for 50-50 ball. Rush out & finish it. If U stop U'll give the striker a chance to chip. Rush out, if U have a slight advantage then go for the ball with your hands, otherwise go in with Ur legs first.

kcng: Yeah I had a game yesterday, won 2-1, playing in intense heat. Got some cut on my elbow, my ankle got treated after a one-on-one. Got my left foot swollen after another one-on-one, & my Lotto GForce finally scratched after I rubbed it against the pitch..... doh.gif

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lol
agree with tenno... experience matters too.... experience helps your positioning....

btw tenno, you got training on tuesday ?
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 10 2006, 10:33 AM)
lol
agree with tenno... experience matters too.... experience helps your positioning....

btw tenno, you got training on tuesday ?
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sometimes it helps too if u just lift up your hands or spread your legs and hands as wide as possible during some blind dive..... the ball might just touch one of your hands and legs and you made a save...

lol
i did that a few times before where i just throw my body in one direction and the ball hit my toe and bounces over the crossbar...

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actually i dont know much about it but my mates just say wah lao eh, good save...

lol
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so who do u guys think perform the best as a keeper in this edition's WC?

buffon gets my vote. this judgment is not only based on his outstanding save in the finals, which btw was awesome but his overall performance throughout the competition. u dun get so many cleacn sheets for nothing.. yeah even tho i noe there are worldclass defenders in front of him, it takes a good GK to be able to guide these superstars and organise the players in front of him but certainly having cannavaro in front of him makes his job a bit easier. he also did spectacular save b4 the final n the save from zizou's header deserves a mention as well. it jz show vr hi lvl of concentration espc in ET where players tend to switch off. luckily he didnt. 1 low thing is that, he's bad at judging spotkicks sad.gif..


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now my palm area blue black liao =.= .. shit man.. but its getting better la... haha. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif lucky it wasnt anything serious.(i hope)
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for me, buffon is the best keeper no doubt but lehman is not far behind as well. he absolutely justified why klinsman pick him as no.1. Too bad this will be his last WC as well.
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me > buffon.. coz . i coulda saved that header from zidane.. sofar out. haha
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For me, Buffon, followed by Ricardo..he's having a good world cup.
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i miss the days of Schmeichel and Kahn... oh.. those were the days... Barthez? Bleh! never like him.

as for this world cup, Buffon gets my vote, tho i would love to give it to kahn but since he doesn't have much chance to play... if not it would be 1st kahn then 2nd Buffon.

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me > buffon.. coz .  i coulda saved that header from zidane.. sofar out. haha
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that save ar, buffon more like just put his arms out only ler.....
reaction save...

bullet header leh....
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blue black finger how to save wor
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tenno injured ar until cannot type ?
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 13 2006, 02:21 PM)
tenno injured ar until cannot type ?
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Hahha...no la, still around, but fading very fast...

Sorry kcng for not informing our training sessions. I was on leave Tuesday and Wed, to settle my medical check-ups (finally settled yesterday). I'm joining the government on Monday, I'll report for a 10-day course in Terengganu on Monday, then come back, then continue "coursing" for 6 months. I hope it won't affect my training that much, working with the government means I can join the afternoon training sessions now.

My team will play one of our biggest games this season, against KL Hawks (or KL U-19) in Stadium Cheras on Sunday. All of y'all are welcomed of course, game starts at 5pm, admission free. Currently we are fourth in the 1st Division, KL Hawks are 5th, but they've just played 5 games, we have played like 10 games. We need to maintain this position to qualify for the FA Cup & gain promotion.
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jul 14 2006, 10:41 AM)
Hahha...no la, still around, but fading very fast...

Sorry kcng for not informing our training sessions. I was on leave Tuesday and Wed, to settle my medical check-ups (finally settled yesterday). I'm joining the government on Monday, I'll report for a 10-day course in Terengganu on Monday, then come back, then continue "coursing" for 6 months. I hope it won't affect my training that much, working with the government means I can join the afternoon training sessions now.

My team will play one of our biggest games this season, against KL Hawks (or KL U-19) in Stadium Cheras on Sunday. All of y'all are welcomed of course, game starts at 5pm, admission free. Currently we are fourth in the 1st Division, KL Hawks are 5th, but they've just played 5 games, we have played like 10 games. We need to maintain this position to qualify for the FA Cup & gain promotion.
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woah,
you working for the goverment ?

by the way, when you are going up for a high ball, do you stick one of your knee out or your knee out but your toes pointing upwards so that the studs shows..

hope u understand the second part.. lol just dont know how to describe it..

just want to know if i show the studs out, is it wrong ?
because during the heat of the game, sure somehow we can forget things...
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 14 2006, 09:45 AM)
by the way, when you are going up for a high ball, do you stick one of your knee out or your knee out but your toes pointing upwards so that the studs shows..

just want to know if i show the studs out, is it wrong ?
because during the heat of the game, sure somehow we can forget things...
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It depends on the situation. If I'm under pressure, I'll stick something out to protect myself & discourage anyone from coming near. If U go for corners it's usually quite difficult to stick your legs out becoz of the positioning. U can be comfortable sticking your legs out when Ur facing the ball. Anyway U'd have to protect Urself.

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hmmm... i stick out my studs and got a yellow card for it
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i stick it out so that the person charging down on me will stop because obviously i will get the ball first before your head can reach it...

and the ref take out a yellow card
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stewpid referee.. its the keepr's right to protect themselves. last time i give them chance, they kick my hand sweat.gif then when i slide and save they kick my head, now at least give me a chance to kick their face whistling.gif
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I got my first ever yellow card in a friendly last Friday. There was a through ball into the penalty, I was sure I could get to it first. then I realized that the striker had the advantage, but since I already commit myself, I had to continue. So I had to go in leg first & hit the oncoming striker. Result ? A badly injured striker, a yellow card for me & a goalkick.

Fellas, I think I'll be out of this forum for the next 10 days, pls keep this thread active. C U all in 10 days' time. Good keeping...
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jul 16 2006, 11:38 AM)
I got my first ever yellow card in a friendly last Friday. There was a through ball into the penalty, I was sure I could get to it first. then I realized that the striker had the advantage, but since I already commit myself, I had to continue. So I had to go in leg first & hit the oncoming striker. Result ? A badly injured striker, a yellow card for me & a goalkick.

Fellas, I think I'll be out of this forum for the next 10 days, pls keep this thread active. C U all in 10 days' time. Good keeping...
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But if I were you I would probably just try going for the ball also...But looking at the situation you took down the last man I think, I thought it would've been a red card.

I just bought a cheap Diadora gloves from Al Ikhsan that day, they're suprisingly good and comfortable to use for its price(RM65). I could've swear it's better than the Primero. I find it easier to catch fast shots compared to the Primero...
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when i try to catch fast shots they spill laugh.gif maybe i havent had the privilege of stickier gloves.. or my technique is wrong. for very fast ballz i have to make 2 touches to save. first is by cushioning, after cushioining the ball will be "hanging" in the air 2cm from my palm. then only i make a quick catch. sweat.gif
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hey guys..
new user here..
start gk-ing when i was 11..
never played for sch or sumthing..
jz casually..
1st glove is umbro temper..
now using chapalang rm26 puma gloves...
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jul 16 2006, 08:01 PM)
when i try to  catch fast shots they spill  laugh.gif  maybe i havent had the privilege of stickier gloves.. or my technique is wrong. for very fast ballz i have to make 2 touches to save. first is by cushioning, after cushioining the ball will be "hanging" in the air 2cm from my palm. then only i make a quick catch. sweat.gif
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Well if you're talking about fast shots, it depends on the time I have to react. If they attempt a long distance hard shot usually I have the time to prepare my hand to catch the ball for good. If I got no time to react usually I can't even handle a average shot. I use to have crap handling with my Adidas FS Carbon, improved a lot with my FS Replique, although now I'm sticking with my Primero and Diadora for regular fun matches. The FS Replique maybe I use incase I hurt my finger or facing with extremely fierce opponents


QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Jul 16 2006, 08:59 PM)
hey guys..
new user here..
start gk-ing when i was 11..
never played for sch or sumthing..
jz casually..
1st glove is umbro temper..
now using chapalang rm26 puma gloves...
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Ahaha...invest a little more and I think RM60 can give you a decent gloves. Ask tenno when he comes back for some entry level goalkeeping gloves. You want my Primero? Can sell you RM20....use one time only...still got the new smell... size 8..ehehe...jkjk ...i guess GK gloves is the last thing you can sell 2nd hand

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QUOTE(tenno @ Jul 16 2006, 12:38 PM)
I got my first ever yellow card in a friendly last Friday. There was a through ball into the penalty, I was sure I could get to it first. then I realized that the striker had the advantage, but since I already commit myself, I had to continue. So I had to go in leg first & hit the oncoming striker. Result ? A badly injured striker, a yellow card for me & a goalkick.

Fellas, I think I'll be out of this forum for the next 10 days, pls keep this thread active. C U all in 10 days' time. Good keeping...
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woah, goal kick
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sure the other team doh.gif doh.gif
no penalty
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jul 16 2006, 09:01 PM)
when i try to  catch fast shots they spill  laugh.gif  maybe i havent had the privilege of stickier gloves.. or my technique is wrong. for very fast ballz i have to make 2 touches to save. first is by cushioning, after cushioining the ball will be "hanging" in the air 2cm from my palm. then only i make a quick catch. sweat.gif
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depends on your technique.... usually i will play safe, just palm or punch it away..
i only catch under no pressure... or i am very confident of having a clean catch..
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nike tiempo got 10% diskaun but size 9
no diskaun mia size 8..but rm55

but since rm26 nia..
ma buy and use fo a while 1st lo..
not playing for sch or anything..

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actually depends la

for me i got the following
- one cheapo pair for futsal.
- one standard pair for field practice
- one dry and one wet condition glove for friendly match or tournament

yeaps...
thats all...

but i still like to use the cheapo gloves for all because you can really trash it and at the end of the day you wont feel so sakit hati because of it. after all its only RM 20 ++ compared to my other gloves which cost way more then that....

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my Rm 30 pumas have peeled after 2 times usage.. i dunno why, maybe the goal area which is sandy is responsible
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jul 18 2006, 03:29 PM)
my Rm 30 pumas have peeled after 2 times usage.. i dunno why, maybe the goal area which is sandy is responsible
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depends la...
if u drag your palm along the sandy floor, sure peel la...

usually the gloves (cheap wan Rm 30) will last me about 3 months of daily (including sat, sun, rain and shine) usage....

and i mean i trash it... but i did not drag my palm along the sandy floor la...
maybe u can pay some more attention to how you manage your positioning on the sandy area....
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thats y le...
feel heartbroken if rm100++ mia gloves rosak...
so use chapalang mia..
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my puma gloves oso start to have some signs of peeling afta 1 use..cheapnessXD
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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Jul 18 2006, 05:54 PM)
my puma gloves oso start to have some signs of peeling afta 1 use..cheapnessXD
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that wan all gloves also have one... signs of peeling...
expensive or cheap also same

the difference lies in will they actually peel or not...
now thats different....
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Actually, the cheaper the gloves, the harder for it to peel. If you don't want it to peel at all, get those ping pong skin palm one... that one i use few months also never peel at all... but that one totally not good one la...
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i'm also the goalkeeper of my team ^^
i like to see those striker's face when their shot are block, haha, sometimes when sien of goalkeeping, will go b defender or striker, but i juz cant score, and i can online supply nice passes to striker. ^^

futsal no need glove gua, duno wan to buy anot leh, any suggestion? value for money lah~
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QUOTE(notorius @ Jul 18 2006, 09:56 PM)
i'm also the goalkeeper of my team ^^
i like to see those striker's face when their shot are block, haha, sometimes when sien of goalkeeping, will go b defender or striker, but i juz cant score, and i can online supply nice passes to striker. ^^

futsal no need glove gua, duno wan to buy anot leh, any suggestion? value for  money lah~
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Erm...Futsal also better to have gloves la... The ball move so fast, kena your palm sure pain one. And also once your hand start to sweat it's harder for you to catch the ball. If got gloves, your gloves more wet, the better laugh.gif

Value for money arrr... Hmmm... My friend using a Puma V5.06 which cost RM55... It looks good but the palm surface very small la...
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jul 18 2006, 10:07 PM)
Erm...Futsal also better to have gloves la... The ball move so fast, kena your palm sure pain one. And also once your hand start to sweat it's harder for you to catch the ball. If got gloves, your gloves more wet, the better laugh.gif

Value for money arrr... Hmmm... My friend using a Puma V5.06 which cost RM55... It looks good but the palm surface very small la...
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It is much more harder to catch futsal ball. The ball move faster and it is better to punch the ball out. As for my gloves, i use a Puma gloves with hard leather surface. Been using for half a year and now it start to tore. At least it is much more durable than normal football gloves. For futsal goalies, go for the rough leather surface, much more durable altough the grip is not as firm as normal gloves. I manage to catch a few shoots from the opposition. In the end, it is better to punch the ball rather than catching it.
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hmm..
the pingpong bat like surface wan..
grip not gud??
but its more expensive than my glove..
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jul 18 2006, 10:07 PM)
Erm...Futsal also better to have gloves la... The ball move so fast, kena your palm sure pain one. And also once your hand start to sweat it's harder for you to catch the ball. If got gloves, your gloves more wet, the better laugh.gif

Value for money arrr... Hmmm... My friend using a Puma V5.06 which cost RM55... It looks good but the palm surface very small la...
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my palm nvr pain b4 after palming any ball away.. hwa hwa. got once my friend asked me whether itspainful or not, i said no, then he said liar, sure got some sting.. but actually not pain also . laugh.gif .gloves more wet the better meh? but that day i tried this theory. u know what happen ah. the ball slide down the glove after i wet it. when totally dry it sticks.. when wet it will make a sound like wiping windows (if u know what i mean)like squeak ..then the ball drop to the floor lol.. maybe i wet it too much, i dunno. but the other day i play match, didnt constantly wet the gloves, thats why one small chunk of latex gone already.. if i wet it maybe wouldnt happen.coz wet ones are more "flexible"?

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lol
mxxuang need to have futsal gk-style training from me already..

lol..
his leg open way too much......
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 19 2006, 11:37 PM)
lol
mxxuang need to have futsal gk-style training from me already..

lol..
his leg open way too much......
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Yeah...god knows why i do that...always open my leg wide... hehe...coz preparing to jump mah...if close leg no time to jump incase they do shot means...
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jul 20 2006, 12:38 AM)
Yeah...god knows why i do that...always open my leg wide... hehe...coz preparing to jump mah...if close leg no time to jump incase they do shot means...
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got technic to it wan ler....
want me to teach ?
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 19 2006, 11:40 PM)
got technic to it wan ler....
want me to teach ?
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As long you not teaching me become pilot this saturday then can la.

p.s. Saturday teach me field football goalkeeping also. I signed up for my college football club, but I dun have GK experience for padang football. They say can bring my futsal skill too football la, but dunno how...saturday teach me GK skill all...I dowan learn fly your Airbus or Boeing plane

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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jul 20 2006, 01:07 AM)
As long you not teaching me become pilot this saturday then can la.

p.s. Saturday teach me field football goalkeeping also. I signed up for my college football club, but I dun have GK experience for padang football. They say can bring my futsal skill too football la, but dunno how...saturday teach me GK skill all...I dowan learn fly your Airbus or Boeing plane
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eh, be a good keeper you need to fly wan you know
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field need more emphasis on positioning... coz good positioning will ensure that the angle the opponent can shoot at can be covered. futsal the positioning can be a little off, coz goalmouth smaller, even if you leave a big gap on your left, you can still save. that day i play field didnt check my goalpost, and i dived as far as i could but still couldnt reach the ball =.=.the goalmouth too wide. well the ball had some swerve, which put it out of my reach, but if i ensure the angle is equal for both sides, i think i could palm it out. but futsal gk got better reflexes.. generally.
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jul 21 2006, 03:00 PM)
field need more emphasis on positioning... coz good positioning will ensure that the angle the opponent can shoot at can be covered. futsal the positioning can be a little off, coz goalmouth smaller, even if you leave a big gap on your left, you can still save. that day i play field  didnt check my goalpost, and i dived as far as i could but still couldnt reach the ball =.=.the goalmouth too wide. well the ball had some swerve, which put it out of my reach, but if i ensure the angle is equal for both sides, i think i could palm it out. but futsal gk got better reflexes.. generally.
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you got some points there....

but let me add some...
in field, you will be better as you gain more experience (yes skills and all counts also) but in the end, experience will pawn the skills and all.

why ? experience will teach you how to position yourself, what to do and so on...

where as for futsal, experience matters but skills and agility factor here is involved more that experience.

whether or not futsal gk has better reflexes, that is subjective, look at how buffon saves ZiZou header.... now thats reflexes....
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haih..
totally useless..
rm26 gloves ripped apart in 2 days...
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any suggestions?
entry level gloves
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i think its the way the gloves is used kua ?

can explain in more detail how did you use it ?
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not my fault..
those morons use my glove..
and they haf bigger hands..so they tug and tug..
i go home onli i found out..
tiempo grip/primero gud?
or buy Puma v5.06?
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ah no wonder....

lol

RULE NUMBER 1 - NEVER LET OTHER PEOPLE USE YOUR GLOVES.

Settle....
Buy another pair and see, and this time dont let other use it...

You will see the difference... icon_rolleyes.gif
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b4 dat..
the seams at the base of my index finger burst..
leavin a hole dere..
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b4 dat..
the seams at the base of my index finger burst..
leavin a hole dere..
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ah that is common with cheap gloves...
as long as your palm dont tear too much can liao...

thats why its call cheap gloves.. used for rough play and training ma
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lol..
yea.
i use it for training..
eh..
any gloves recommended?

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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 21 2006, 02:08 PM)
you got some points there....

but let me add some...
in field, you will be better as you gain more experience (yes skills and all counts also) but in the end, experience will pawn the skills and all.

why ? experience will teach you how to position yourself, what to do and so on...

where as for futsal, experience matters but skills and agility factor here is involved more that experience.

whether or not futsal gk has better reflexes, that is subjective, look at how buffon saves ZiZou header.... now thats reflexes....
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but look at you miss a throw in thru ur legs (just like oliver kahn). now thats uber noobness laugh.gif laugh.gif sometimes even top keepers make stupid mistakes which i nvr done b4 =.=''
QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Jul 21 2006, 06:15 PM)
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not my fault..
those morons use my glove..
and they haf bigger hands..so they tug and tug..
i go home onli i found out..
tiempo grip/primero gud?
or buy Puma v5.06?
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stupid lor.. like one of my gigantic friends. play as defender keep talking to me,distracting me .. then ask me pinjam him my puma glove =.=. lucky his hand is only bigger than mine at the wrist area(fatty tissues all accumulated) . if not, im sure the glove become like urs.
last time got one uber noob pinjam my gloves but wear it terbalik.. hahahahaha.. he used the backhand area as the palm..

if u want good gloves sure can recommend but pay top bucks... if u want cheap, u got no choice but to pick them off the bargain shelf.. beggars cant be choosers whistling.gif whistling.gif. good gloves are like uhl ones. ive nvr seen any bad comments bout uhl gloves.. nike are very "extreme", they can be extremely good or extremely bad.. but what i can say is u better buy cheapo gloves considering that ur mates borrow ur gloves.. if adidas fingersave pinjam them got ripped, its gg.

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u use esito?
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chapalang esito


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Hi guys, finally I get to go online. It's my 6th day here in Terengganu, life's been very hectic, tight schedule & all, but I get to organize a small football league for my colleagues here yesterday so it's been good. I dun play in goal anyway.

Shiloong For cheap starter gloves, I highly recommend Nike Tiempo Match, RM55 from most Nike shops or sports shops.

If U have difficulties handling direct, powerful shots, usually it means Ur technique is wrong. Most likely that your hands are too close together. Another trick to handling difficult shots like that is to palm it downwards, let it bounce & then pick it up. A lot of keepers does that.

I'll be back in KL on Thursday....hopefully we can meet up, maybe just have coffee or whatever....

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hey!! that smine!! maybe we can form a esito club rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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lol...
can oso..
tenno:
but i bought d ler..
next time la..
lol
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lol...
can oso..
tenno:
but i bought d ler..
next time la..
lol
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lol
buy another one la...

then u will have gloves for all season
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 23 2006, 11:57 PM)
lol
buy another one la...

then u will have gloves for all season
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As I said again, people here cannot afford to change their gloves everymatch like you whistling.gif

Btw thx for the coaching that day...Will try to improve it from time to time.

Btw wat type of boots will be suitable for GK? For field football la...Round studs or those blade studs?
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Jul 25 2006, 03:00 AM)
As I said again, people here cannot afford to change their gloves everymatch like you whistling.gif

Btw thx for the coaching that day...Will try to improve it from time to time.

Btw wat type of boots will be suitable for GK? For field football la...Round studs or those blade studs?
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depends on the field you are playing on....
round studs and blade has different function (in theory la)

but actually it all boils down to which are you more comfortable with....
and those different functions are pretty much no changes....

so comfortable is enough...
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they say blade is better for gk? coz as gk u move more sideways and blades theoretically are better at stopping sideways movement than round studs.. also, there are special gk boots. made by uhl sports.. they have raised heel , etc, coz normally keepers have to be on toes.. so they make it like kinda easier for u to lean forwards on your toes.

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this thread is like so dead...
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yep. i always get the last post in threads.. people dont seem to reply to my posts doh.gif

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coz u answer ques wad..
i ask ques..
lol
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loll.. stop spam XD. i guess tenno wont come back alrready. bye bye lolz
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maybe we should hold a farewell party...

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Whoa....hold Ur horses !!! I'm back !!!

The reason I'm not online for so long was that I dun have any PC yet, heck, I dun even have any office yet !! I report for duty at the Treasury in Putrajaya last week, & for the next week I guess I'll finally get my office as I already know where I'm gonna be placed.

I haven't been able to play, or train for almost a month now, I had to go to work at 6.15 am & I'm usually back home by 7pm, in bed by 10.30, so no time to train. The KL League is having no games until the 19th, so I train by myself now. Yesterday I played in a friendly for my local team & managed to injured myself, I can't walk properly now, let alone play.

As for your questions on which boot, it's down to the type of field & your personal preference. I've been playing in blade studs since last year & I've no problem with it except in very slippery pitches. Then again, I'd recommend getting a soft ground boots if U choose to use blades, as the blade studs is taller. In my case it's Adidas Salvador SG (RM99 from Adidas Pertama Complex). I bring both pairs to matches & try it on the field first. Now that I already know most of the pitches used in KL League, I'd know which boot to use.

& it's a good idea to keep a pair of those screw-in SG boots (6 studs usually) for rainy games. I use Umbro Match Bronze SSG (RM110 from Pertama Complex), there's quite a number of those type of boots in Pertama, all below RM130.

Nike has released its T90 Grip gloves for the local market (RM99). The palm is the same as the Tiempo Match gloves, 3mm supersoft foam which is excellent in all conditions.

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I'd have bought it, but I got 4 pairs edi, maybe next season.

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saw dat in pg...
eh..tenno..u used tiempo match gloves?
isit gud?
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that gloves in al-ikhsan.com is Rm 80..
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saw at rsh 55
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i meant tiempo match
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Adidas Salvador SG?
For RM99 only? Sounds very reasonable. Old model izit? Haha...i'm fine with it, afterall, GK no need those canggih boots and all that... tongue.gif
Is the stock limited or wat? Currently I'm trying for a GK post in my college football team... Dunno can or not... Totally no field football experience. And my college team is like... 90% foreigners? Lol...
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hmm, what is the best and cheap gloves that a goalkeeper can have?
planning to get one for my friend as a b'day gift..

hmm.. other than the Tiempo Match, since I got it tongue.gif
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LoL
u all so fast sumpah tenno to kingdom come ar ?
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woah tenno, now you are in putrajaya already, so u wont be training as often as last time ?
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QUOTE(kcng @ Aug 7 2006, 08:43 AM)
LoL
u all so fast sumpah tenno to kingdom come ar ?
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woah tenno, now you are in putrajaya already, so u wont be training as often as last time ?
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How's the match yesterday? Berapa bola you kasi masuk? laugh.gif
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i tink salvador sg is old model.. lolz. only can get off ebay that kinda boots doh.gif , umbro bronze also same.. i searched for umbro bronze and i only got websites which havebnt been updated since it was launched doh.gif but i tink both also synthetic.. good for gk coz less hassle to clean up and gk dun need the touch of real leather..but comfort wise i dunno tongue.gif

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 7 2006, 03:00 PM)
i tink salvador sg is old model.. lolz. only can get off ebay that kinda boots doh.gif , umbro bronze also same.. i searched for umbro bronze and i only got websites which havebnt been updated since it was launched doh.gif but i tink both also synthetic.. good for gk coz less hassle to clean up and gk dun need the touch of real leather..but comfort wise i dunno  tongue.gif
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Salvador is indeed an old model, & it's K-Leather. Umbro Match Bronze I dunno, it is synthetic though. There are a few SSG boots U can find in Pertama, I saw another Umbro model, the one with the cross on the front, & another one was Diadora.

Sheep319 Nike Tiempo Match is one of the best budget gloves out there. Another one is also from Nike, I think the model is T90 Wired Classic, about RM79.90. Other than that maybe U can try Puma, or even Joma. For me, I will put some features in the gloves that I consider essential before purchasing it. Among them is elastic wristband and wrapped thumb.

shiloong Sorry, the one I'm using is Tiempo Grips (RM110.00). I've never used Tiempo Match, but I have tested it & I think it's a very good budget gloves.

kcng Yeah, I haven't been able to train as often as I would've liked, & it looks like I'm not gonna be able to play next season as I've to go for a 6-month course starting January. So I have to decline some offers to play next season. Some teams invited me to play for them, & it looks like I have to find a team that trains in the afternoon (after office hrs), I dun think I can commit for evening training sessions now. However, still, it looks like I won't be playing competitively next season, unless those teams can allow me to play after June...very unlikely

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t90 wired is good.. like fingersaves. haha. anyway anyone seen brine gloves in malaysia??.. nvr seen b4. got brine framed gloves or not.. like fingersave wan.. coz im looking for fs technology..at cheap prices.

what is ssg? my guesss would be screw ins?? screw in got sell short studs like fg? what im trying to do is buy screw ins and use it for both sg and fg conditions, changing studs when necessary.

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 7 2006, 11:01 PM)
t90 wired is good.. like fingersaves. haha. anyway anyone seen brine gloves in malaysia??.. nvr seen b4. got brine framed gloves or not.. like fingersave wan.. coz im looking for fs technology..at cheap prices.

what is ssg? my guesss would be screw ins?? screw in got sell short studs like fg? what im trying to do is buy screw ins and use it for both sg and fg conditions, changing studs when necessary.
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It's not the old T90 Wired with the flexible wires as FPS. The T90 Wired I was referring to has no FPS, just uses T90 Wired cosmetics. Still, at under RM80, it offers good features like wrapped thumb & elastic cuffs.

I dun really know what SSG means, becoz only Umbro uses that monicker. I believe it means Super Soft Ground. SG boots normally means removable studs, wether it's the classic six studs or the newer bladed studs. Normally for 6 studs SG boots, the rear studs are taller than the front studs. So if U buy replacement studs, U'll get 4 tall ones & 8 short ones. If you want to use all short ones then U'll have to buy 2 sets la. But I'd recommend sticking to the original configs, since the minimal number of studs means it can be used in almost all types of pitches, except the real hard ones.

When I was playing in UKM, I could use SG boots in all 4 fields. In KL League, so far I've played in about 5 different pitches. The official KL League grounds, the KL Hospital ground, I use my Adidas Salvador as the ground is very hard. The same goes for Kem Bt Cantonment. I used SG boots when playing in MSN Bkt Jalil, UM, and Stadium KLFA Cheras. As I've said in previous post, if possible bring both boots to the field & test.

I've never seen Brine gloves locally. But maybe somebody will bring in Reusch, some keepers in the M-League have started to use them. Personally, I'd like to try Sells.

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sigh, tenno what a waste...... and i thought i can meet up with you and have a TT session.

anyway... do check in here as often as you can and update us (me la in particular, wanted to know how club football is like)

anyway... i tore my puma cheapo gloves again. lol. this time is on the right palm and it happen during the sunday rio de futsal tourney. sadly my team got knocked out in the second round.

but we lost to a good team tho. thumbup.gif
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wad puma gloves that tore?
esito?
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of coz la XD .. thats the only cheap puma gloves now.. very common among lyn players!
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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Aug 9 2006, 05:57 PM)
wad puma gloves that tore?
esito?
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 11 2006, 01:05 AM)
of coz la XD .. thats the only cheap puma gloves now.. very common among lyn players!
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yeah this is the gloves that if it tear, you wont feel sakit hati... after all its cheap...
so i can trash it for all i care.
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but for me its money too sad.gif . just a student cant afford more than RM 50 for gloves..
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 11 2006, 03:08 PM)
but for me its money too sad.gif . just a student cant afford more than RM 50 for gloves..
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yeah i understand, that is why i always go with 2 pairs or more. I have 4 pairs by the way.

usually i will buy one RM 30 or cheaper gloves, use it as my primary wan lor.

then the other 3 i wear if got real match / tourney / and such lor.....

if normal futsal session or play for fun, i will wear that cheap wan....
i know how it's like to be a student... i was in exactly same situation as you too...
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hafta keep money in tabung..abo no $$..lol
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esito so popular kah?
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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Aug 12 2006, 03:02 PM)
esito so popular kah?
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Cheap mah...

Anyway can anyone suggest an extremely durable gloves... People nowdays are kicking harder and my gloves durability is shorter sweat.gif
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buy dimpled ones like i did lo.or buy hardground wan. another to consider is admiral gloves, which has rough surface on the palm... forgot the model, but my school used it for under 15 and under 13. so it must be durable enough to withstand usage by 2 or more keepers. when i wore it it had a tear, but nothing else.. bout my asics, even tho the first day i used , 2 mm came off from palm.. coz maybe i dived on the sand. brand's asics.. but i nvr see asics brand gloves other than that? lol. i got a rare item here.
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once again..
my puma glove is starting to rip at the seams..

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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Aug 12 2006, 07:32 PM)
once again..
my puma glove is starting to rip at the seams..
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lol
how u use wan wor ?
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usual use la..
i use 3 times a week..
den i din let other ppl wear..
sumore 1 size bigger..
the seams ripping is at the wristband there..
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Hmm, I guess most of U guys here are playing futsal rite ? For futsal, where U dun really catch that much, buy those gloves with ping-pong type palms, but make sure they have adequate padding so that it won't hurt that much when U palm the ball away. Also, I'd attribute most of the "injuries" to the gloves to glove care & usage style. Remember to moistn Ur gloves' palm so that it's soft enuf. If & whenever possible, avoid damaging the palm by using it to get up (after a dive), swinging on the crossbar, etc. Dun follow those pros, they get a new glove whenever they ask for it.

Also, cheap gloves usually they dun have that ergonomic cut between your thumb and index finger (where a glove is most likely to tear). If possible, look for gloves that is double-stitched in that area.

EPL's gonna start tonite, Very anxious to see what my fav keepers are gonna wear this season. There won't be any new releases after the World Cup, I guess, except for Nike. They have yet to release the Mercurial Vent goves. Lehmann's gonna use the T90 Gunn Cut I think, it's his favorite glove cut.

I'll see if I can arrange a get together for us by end of this month.
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mine is between the finger.. seams tearing thru the latex.
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mine is the writband..index and middle finger the "V" part,and the middle and ring finger " V" part..and the latex at the palm and fingertips area..i play football..the field is quite hard and dry..i moisten the palms before play..but..hehe..alwiz use palms to get up..trying to change.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Aug 13 2006, 04:33 PM)
mine is the writband..index and middle finger the "V" part,and the middle and ring finger " V" part..and the latex at the palm and fingertips area..i play football..the field is quite hard and dry..i moisten the palms before play..but..hehe..alwiz use palms to get up..trying to change.. smile.gif
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no wonder....
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u change already and see... got some difference wan...

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try..try..discipline...
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Hmmm... I wonder why Cudicinni in goal yesterday... Cech still on holiday arr? Didn't see what gloves he wore... Just know it's white with some yellow pattern.

Reina uses Adidas Response Pro if I'm not mistaken...
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cech is recovering from surgery that's y cudicini play..
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Retired keeper here....used to play as keeper when I was form 1 till form 3 at the field near my house.Wearing glasses while playing so kinda phobia sometimes.....broke one pair of glasses when goalkeeping during form 3 tongue.gif

After that switch to futsal....most of the time play defender or midfield...but sometimes still play as GK,skill karat already,especially in 1v1 situations.Never had any gloves.Too cheap to get a pair tongue.gif

But now in Singapore studying,can't play lor... cry.gif
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nike total football
dont care where still can play....

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by the way u should meet tenno and his post... they are good...
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QUOTE(kcng @ Aug 16 2006, 08:56 AM)
nike total football
dont care where still can play....

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by the way u should meet tenno and his post... they are good...
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Ahaha,didn't bring my football gear over tongue.gif

Unless I play barefeet laugh.gif
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play with sneakers. lol.. china got people use QQ to arrange street football. how cool. (according to nike, but might be marketing only whistling.gif)
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i used to play with my cheapo Power sneakers..
alwiz slip when wet ground..dangerous..
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oh.. u mean on field? o yeah.. dangerous to play with sneaker on field.. forgot =.='' i play with indoor shoes on field, hard to move at full speed.. i gotta slow down to get better feel of the ground so i wont fall..
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oh.. u mean on field? o yeah.. dangerous to play with sneaker on field.. forgot =.='' i play with indoor shoes on field, hard to move at full speed.. i gotta slow down to get better feel of the ground so i wont fall..
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lolz.. barefeet got more traction?
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lolz.. barefeet got more traction?
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actually more control of the ball because you can feel it better...

but your toes sakit la.... kena pijak... or tonjol ball

lol..
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QUOTE(kcng @ Aug 16 2006, 05:55 PM)
actually more control of the ball because you can feel it better...

but your toes sakit la.... kena pijak... or tonjol ball

lol..
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Agreed.I have countless toe injuries and cuts during the days I played barefeet at the field near my house.It wasn't so bad when everyone was also barefeet.

Then suddenly everyone's wearing boots. doh.gif

Kena pijak dunno how many times,most of the time couldn't walk properly after kena pijak tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Phalanx @ Aug 16 2006, 08:30 PM)
Agreed.I have countless toe injuries and cuts during the days I played barefeet at the field near my house.It wasn't so bad when everyone was also barefeet.

Then suddenly everyone's wearing boots.  doh.gif

Kena pijak dunno how many times,most of the time couldn't walk properly after kena pijak  tongue.gif
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sure la...
got one time after jumping for header, this fellow landed on my bare foot with his boots...

ma de... i tell you... pain like hell
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lol..after pijak ur feet got indent ah.. last time my friend wear cloth boots i go step him, i didnt realise.. then he scold me and like wanna cry liao only i realised lol.. must be very painful, but i nvr kena b4

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Carlo Cudicini and Jerzy Dudek was my favourite keeper last time....I remember there is one match, Chelsea -vs- ? , Liverpool -vs- ?.....After Dudek make a nice save, I change channel, Cudicini did the same nice save as Dudek ! Except Dudek use fist, Carlo use palm rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 16 2006, 10:21 PM)
lol..after pijak ur feet got indent ah.. last time my friend wear cloth boots i go step him, i didnt realise.. then he scold me and like wanna cry liao only i realised lol.. must be very painful, but i nvr kena b4
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got one mark there la....
next day have to wear selipar to school...
feet bengkak....

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u want me to try on you ?
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never kena b4..
but worst experience is playing barefoot on the cheapo turf..green sandpaper.
i played for 2 hours there..
the feet mia soles pain like hell..coz the turf is flat..and ur feet got arch mia ma...
and got blisters sumore...
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lolz i heard the friction there is not very nice. even some people reported their mercurial vapours turned into vapour- the friction causes the shoes to be too hot.. haha.
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u play barefoot on a turf
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playing at school wert..
arbo ask me wear my 7406 to play?
my fren see liao purposely step until black ki..den my heart will break..

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lol thats the problem with expensive boots. once u buy u dont dare wear it.. unlike those affordable kinds, u'd not hesitate to walk in the thickest mud even if its brand new.
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lol thats the problem with expensive boots. once u buy u dont dare wear it.. unlike those affordable kinds,in which u'd not hesitate to walk in the thickest mud even if its brand new, this one even after 1 year you'd only wear it when its "really necessary".
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i wear for kai kai nia..and its white..so kinda scared of it bcuming black
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Aug 18 2006, 11:47 PM)
lol thats the problem with expensive boots. once u buy u dont dare wear it.. unlike those affordable kinds,in which u'd not hesitate to walk in the thickest mud even if its brand new, this one even after 1 year you'd only wear it when its "really necessary".
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lol
yeah this i have to agree 100%
i had a RM 499 nike boots that i will bring along to game...
if the field is really nice then i will wear...

if got mud, i will wear my cheapo RM 79 boots
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so for every match i go to, 2 pair of boots and 3 pair of gloves
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agreed too ..lol..
if i bought the abs..i wud frame it up and wipe it everyday..
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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Aug 19 2006, 12:05 PM)
agreed too ..lol..
if i bought the abs..i wud frame it up and wipe it everyday..
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lol...
mine ar ?
after game, wash then wipe nice nice
then put it to dry in the house under the fan
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Hey in futsal is it okay to rush out to catch the ball from ur opponent's foot? Coz you know la, futsal their tackle rules kinda tight so thinking whether it's legal or not.
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yeah you can rush out and catch the ball from your oponent's foot. but rarely will people use this because the D area is too small....

so people will just use their legs to block...
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any short keeper like me?
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How short r U ? I'm standing at 175cm, about 5'9", my second keeper is just about my shoulder height. But he's very agile & athletic. Selangor's keeper last time, Sharizan was short too.

Cudicini was playing in goal for Chelski coz Cech haven't recovered from shoulder operation (on both shoulders). Cudicini was wearing Ulhsport Excel gloves, last season he always wear Uhlsport Absolutgrip Aqua.

Lehmann still uses Nike Vapor Grip 3, Paul Robinson was wearing the new T90 Gunn Cut. Antti Niemi switched from Uhlsport to Sells, & let in 5 goals.... Pepe Reina was using Adidas Response Pro.

Right now I'm undergoing trials for a new team, dunno which league they're playing next season. I've told them I can't play until June next year, but the coach still asked me to come. We had a friendly just now, in Stadium Raja Muda, against dunno what team, won 2-1. It was raining heavily, fortunately when it was my turn to play it has stopped raining, That was the first time I used my Lotto G-Force in the rain, & I'd say it performed very well indeed.

My current team have qualify for the semis in the KL League, but the bad news is that there might not be a team next season, so players are demoralized & very few turned up for games. Last Saturday, my third keeper had to play in defence, our striker was red-carded for quarreling with his own teammate, & I pulled one opponent striker down in the penalty box. Luckily we managed a draw.
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hi, i'm a goalie since i first started playing footy 10 years ago but i have been playing a lot as outfield player lately and starting to loss my goalie spirit and skills sad.gif

oh, i'm short too, 170cm. i only played for my school and train all by myself, too bad there's not many dedicated goalie coach and when my teammates train, they like to play matches, so no one wants to train goalie with me sad.gif i had a short stint with Sabah FA training on sundays but had a session or two of goalie training and the rest are playing matches sad.gif as for now, i have a mate who is keen on training his shooting, so i get more chances now, yay!

anyway, i made a quick job on a userbar signature dedicated to goalies, i believe this is the first one biggrin.gif

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yeah.. i nvr had anyone to train with. the coach is pretty stupid. he ask us to play matches ONLY.. he doesnt even train our dribbling with cones, etc...
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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Aug 13 2006, 03:33 PM)
mine is the writband..index and middle finger the "V" part,and the middle and ring finger " V" part..and the latex at the palm and fingertips area..i play football..the field is quite hard and dry..i moisten the palms before play..but..hehe..alwiz use palms to get up..trying to change.. smile.gif
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If Ur gloves are torn between the fingers, I think it's very likely that the glove might be too small for U. Try a size bigger, maybe that'll help.
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i was told that you should wear 1 size larger than the one that fits your hand exactly. it allows a little flexibility for the glove to absorb the spin of the ball. anyone mind to correct this?
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not much goalkeeping now..
coz the ground at my house dere very rough..
dun dare to dive..
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QUOTE(vintec @ Aug 26 2006, 01:55 PM)
i was told that you should wear 1 size larger than the one that fits your hand exactly. it allows a little flexibility for the glove to absorb the spin of the ball. anyone mind to correct this?
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No correction needed. Old school players always use 1 size bigger, more catching area, more latex. Kasey Keller wears at least 2 sizes bigger.
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Anybody been to Al-Ikhsan lately ? I saw a Lotto Neo-Concept glove (the previous one Petr Cech used) going for RM89 (Al-Ikhsan Alamanda). Tested it, very impressive fastening system, U can wrap the wrist strap around twice actually. Very simple gloves. But one thing I dislike about Lotto gloves, including the G-Force I have, is they're too heavy, especially when it rains. So for rainy games, I prefer my Tiempo Pros.

Care for a gathering ?
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sure..when can u all gather?
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Aug 19 2006, 11:36 PM)
Hey in futsal is it okay to rush out to catch the ball from ur opponent's foot? Coz you know la, futsal their tackle rules kinda tight so thinking whether it's legal or not.
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You can but most people won't unless you're confident that you're able to catch the ball without letting your opponents slip pass you.
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any of u guys wanna play as a keeper for my team? we urgently need a keeper for futsal.. our keeper just broke his finger n considering to retire sleep.gif
anybody also welcome biggrin.gif doesn't have to be good like buffon or casillas tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tenno @ Aug 31 2006, 07:25 PM)
Anybody been to Al-Ikhsan lately ? I saw a Lotto Neo-Concept glove (the previous one Petr Cech used) going for RM89 (Al-Ikhsan Alamanda). Tested it, very impressive fastening system, U can wrap the wrist strap around twice actually. Very simple gloves. But one thing I dislike about Lotto gloves, including the G-Force I have, is they're too heavy, especially when it rains. So for rainy games, I prefer my Tiempo Pros.

Care for a gathering ?
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tenno will be glad and happy to meet up with you and other fellow keepers for that matter.....

oh yeah, what do you think a keeper form is based on ? the defense or the keeper personal confidence ?
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Sorry, been pretty busy lately, will be even busier next week. Generally I'm done for the season, I'm not going training no more, just a few games here & there.

A keeper's form in my opinion is a bit of both, he's only as good as the defence in front of him. That's why U rarely find a good keeper in a poor defensive team. Some keepers can perform even better, feeling that they have to step up. The defence must provide the keeper some cover.

I think it was Buffon who said,"A good keeper always transmits sense of calm & confidence to his teammates". Ur defence must have faith in U & U must have good communication with Ur teammates.
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Whoa, this topic way off edi, so far behind....nobody interested in discussing anything anymore ? Maybe we can discuss the Petr Cech/Cudicini incident.

Most keepers in the EPL wearing Sells nowadays...wonder if anybody in Pertama willing to bring those in, very good gloves...

Now I'm trying to get back to fitness, actually I've no prob with stamina, but I', way overweight now !!! Sudden surge after Raya I guess...
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QUOTE(tenno @ Nov 10 2006, 08:57 AM)
Whoa, this topic way off edi, so far behind....nobody interested in discussing anything anymore ? Maybe we can discuss the Petr Cech/Cudicini incident.

Most keepers in the EPL wearing Sells nowadays...wonder if anybody in Pertama willing to bring those in, very good gloves...

Now I'm trying to get back to fitness, actually I've no prob with stamina, but I', way overweight now !!! Sudden surge after Raya I guess...
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not good meh with overweight??so u can block the whole goalmouth just by standing at there.....there will be no opening for opponent member to score....hahaha...just kidding...... tongue.gif
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Hia. I didn't know that there was a thread for keepers.

Been one since young days, although I realized i loved being a goalie when I was in form 1, for a very good reason too. I wasn't a good one back then, but I loved it.

Cassillas and P.Schemeichel are on my list as "idols". Of course there are others, like the dead Columbian goalie (with that big afro hair), Buffon, Toldo, even the rogue type Jose Luis Chilavert (he's funny for a keeper, really).

I think goalkeepers have to be the most versatile player. Sometimes, its a bad stigma that newbies, worst players all get dumped to being goalkeepers. But it doesn't work that way. People really have to have passion for goalkeeping.

The best moment I had as a goalkeeper was to humiliate a particular striker in a futsal match. He was so good, that he outclassed everyone in the match. And he scored 3-3 against our team. He was so overly confident that he would make me unable to block any of his shots. If I did, he'll just be substituted away. True enough for the first 3 (which went in), but after the 3rd I vowed not to let him get in, and that I didn't, and our team catched up 3-3. Kinda annoyed that he was just being a loudmouthed, but having the crowd to support, and the team who just told me "just do your job, don't complain about him being godlike or yada yada, we're counting on you!", I think that's the best feeling a goal keeper can ever get. Trust and confidence from your team mates.

I've been using low-tech low grade latex gloves from Admiral, Diadora, Umbro, and etc. Currently i'm using another low end gloves from Umbro, can't recall the name but its latex foam based. (well, i can't get access to good gloves, really)


=)

Goalkeepers are different. I take this from a book with the same title. Really, goal keeping is fun.

I'm now in UPM, but I don't play as regular as before, because i don't have a team, and I'm physically lacking match fitness. xD


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QUOTE(GrandElf @ Nov 10 2006, 03:08 PM)
not good meh with overweight??so u can block the whole goalmouth just by standing at there.....there will be no opening for opponent member to score....hahaha...just kidding...... tongue.gif
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Well, I dun like being overweight, for starters (but who does ?). Last Sunday I went to play for the first time since puasa, there was one goal that I could've saved if I was lighter. But since I was feeling very heavy, I couldn't dive full-stretch & could only got my fingertips to the shot. The ball hit the inside of the post & went in. I'd reckon if I was lighter, I could at least tip the ball onto the post.

I'm now very heavy, can feel it when I was running. I could run 30 mins no prob, stamina is there, but I was feeling very heavy.

Really itchy to play regularly again. With my daily commute, it's getting very difficult to play on weekdays, I could only play on weekends. Sometimes I would just put my gloves on once every few days. 4 pairs just hanging there....I need games !!!
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Nov 10 2006, 03:48 PM)
Currently i'm using another low end gloves from Umbro, can't recall the name but its latex foam based. (well, i can't get access to good gloves, really)
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I'm pretty anxious to try an Umbro I saw in Pertama some time ago. The ones with FPS on the thumb side (not on every finger), forgot what they called it. My second pair of gloves was Umbro Stefano, when I was playing for MRSM Jasin in 1993.

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I'm now in UPM, but I don't play as regular as before, because i don't have a team, and I'm physically lacking match fitness. xD
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Last season I had a game against a UPM team (all Chinese & some Sabahans, or all Sabahan Chinese, forgot) in MSN Bkt Jalil pitch. The striker was very tall but stocky (unlike Peter Crouch). Pretty good team, although the captain was quite temperament type. We won anyway... biggrin.gif
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i held on to belief back few years, when my glove supplier (yes, i told you that i've got some un-usable gloves due to tear and wear) that Uhlsport makes the best gloves. I don't know, and I won't know until I lay my hands on one of them.


On a side note, at least you do have a team. I don't. I do have means of transportation (my scooter), but not knowing anyone here makes me feel so strange.


Well, maybe we could meet up? I really want to learn more about goalkeeping (I feel that i'm severely under par) due to my tendency to block / parry rather than catch.
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Yeah sure we can meet up. We've tried to organize a gathering (of goalies) for quite sometime edi, but never materialized. I'm available until 8th January 2007, becoz after that I'll be going for my 6-month course & couldn't possibly go out & play.
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Well, who's in charge of the gathering? Maybe we can try to list out the details slowly at a time you know.

We keepers have to take initiative too. Not just to wait the ball to come rolling to us and "dive" at it.

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I used to play keeper for Sports Unlimited a couple of years ago. Them bringing in Zaidi who was at the time Malaysia's no.1 for Futsal ended my career prematurely. Being in my late 20's, I needed first team action biggrin.gif Little did I know I got no action. I'm a little less agile and slower now unfortunately...
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Hey keepers
Wanna ask something.
Why when i try to tahan the mid-air ball i will slap the ball not catch it.
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It's how you position your palms and cushion the ball. Don't put your arms straight out with your palms facing straight forward. I don't know how to explain it in words, but you have to position them at an angle. Why not surf the net, they may have diagrams. The safest way is to catch it near your belly so even if it does slip through your fingers, it won't go right into the goal.
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Wow this thread is alive again. I thought it was dead and deleted tongue.gif
Anyway throughout this past few months I basically destroyed all my gloves I bought earlier this year. Strikers are getting stronger this days, the make a hole in my gloves quickly tongue.gif

Anyway I'm currently using a low end lotto gloves. Gatal gatal want to try the G-Force but kinda unneceasarry for futsal. I'm still using my Fingersave replique in cases where I'm playing with my fingers hurt.

Still curious though, what's the difference between futsal GK gloves and regular GK gloves. As I've observed futsal gloves they expose the tip of your fingers.
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I don't know if you can find official futsal gloves because most I've seen have had their ends snipped off. They idea is so you have better control of the ball when you throw or roll it. Given that the pitch is small, you need to be as accurate as possible. The official size parquet courts are much more friendly on gloves. I've torn 4 gloves on the turf ones which I hate because they are so small.
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Al-ikshan got sell.
The finger-tip exposed 1.

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QUOTE(Joshiet @ Nov 16 2006, 11:22 AM)
Hey keepers
Wanna ask something.
Why when i try to tahan the mid-air ball i will slap the ball not catch it.
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Mid-air balls ? Catching crosses is it ?

Well, first thing in my mind is that if U can catch the ball properly, most proly Ur not jumping high enuff to get at the ball comfortably, or the ball is too high for U to catch (these 2 are similar ain't it ?). Judgment is very important when going out for crosses. Decide if U have the positional advantage to get to the ball comfortably, hand posture is important as well. If U think U dun have positional advantage (but still want to go for the cross), punching is a better option. Normally if the ball is challenged, it's better to punch. I guess U can watch Jens Lehmann, he's good in coming out for crosses.

As a general rule, a keeper must catch the ball at the highest point possible. & in corners, all balls going into the 6-yard box should be the keeper's.

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Still curious though, what's the difference between futsal GK gloves and regular GK gloves. As I've observed futsal gloves they expose the tip of your fingers.

We're supposed to catch the ball with the fingertips (U don't catch the ball with Ur palm). One explanation on why futsal specific gloves are without the tips is that in futsal, most of the time U'll be palming the ball away, not catch the ball. But I think with normal full-fingered gloves U r better protected. Just dun buy those expensive, supersoft palm gloves for futsal, U'll be wasting Ur money. Buy those cheap ones with normal latex (usually on gloves around RM50 or less), Ur glove will last longer.

Gathering...mmm.. We want to just meet up & talk or we want to play futsal ? Let me suggest, we all bring our gloves to the gathering & compare, etc. How about next Sunday 26/11 ? Or Saturday 25/11 ? Somebody suggest a location, around KL is fine.

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QUOTE(Joshiet @ Nov 16 2006, 12:22 PM)
Hey keepers
Wanna ask something.
Why when i try to tahan the mid-air ball i will slap the ball not catch it.
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If you're going for mid-air ball, it depends on your calculations, and your initial response.

As for me, I can't really catch ball, because I haven't grasp the techniques correctly. However, I made it a point that if possible I'll deflect the ball to my defenders to head it away. If the situation seems almost impossible, I'll punch the ball for a corner (That's because corner set pieces is where my old team mates are especially good at, so being a goalkeeper I only make sure I have to rush for the ball.

However, it would be helpful to note that your fingers need to be stretched, not cupped (silly old school coaches).

Especially since you mentioned that you've got fingersavers, its really helpful.

THis 25/26th for a gathering? i'm cool with it. But my lauya umbro glove. haha.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Nov 16 2006, 12:51 PM)

However, it would be helpful to note that your fingers need to be stretched, not cupped (silly old school coaches).

Do U mean while catching ? Coz when catching the ball, naturally U would have to follow the shape of the ball, that is why some gloves are shaped anatomically/pre-curved (Nike Tiempo Grip, T90 & Grip 3, etc). Especially the tip of Ur fingers. When U go for high balls, it is important to make sure U can grab the top of the ball or at least 3/4 of the ball. I've experienced some good quality gloves with excellent latex foam that allows U to grab the ball even if U dun really have full grip (on the ball).

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THis 25/26th for a gathering? i'm cool with it. But my lauya umbro glove. haha.
Nvm la, just bring only, then we can talk about common issue la...
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Heh, good good. At least I can learn from the veterans about catching balls.

I'm more conscious about my tendency to punch / parry the ball, but I guess its just that I need to work out on the technique.

Or maybe brute strength.

I can't even kick the ball properly *shy shy*

But at least a goalkeeper must learn to make up where he's short of.
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gathering? Can't make it this month due to exams... Kinda free on december 2nd week onwards though. Anyway you guys know anyone organising some sort of Goalkeeping clinic on december or not? Field or futsal also can, preferably futsal because I play futsal more frequently. Or we can just organise one ourselves laugh.gif
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hurm hurm. if we organize a clinic we would need official sanctioning.
doesn't it?
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hey guys...how to punch the ball without hurting ur hands?
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Nov 17 2006, 03:33 AM)
hurm hurm. if we organize a clinic we would need official sanctioning.
doesn't it?
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No la, unless we plan to give out certs & stuff. If we do it amongst ourselves, we dun need to do all that. Actually it's a good idea, maybe we can meet up at a field first, I can show U some drills, etc, then adjourn somewhere. How's that ? If mxxuang can't make it this month, then we can push it to around 9/10 December. How's that ?

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hey guys...how to punch the ball without hurting ur hands?

Ur hands hurt when punching ? Then perhaps something's wrong. Or maybe U punched somebody's face when trying to punch the ball biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Where does it hurt ? U should punch the ball with the flat part of Ur knuckle (s) (is this correct ? it's called knuckle right?). The most likely part that will hurt is the fingers. If that is so, then U'd have to really make a firm grip/knuckles, it shouldn't hurt. Practise by punching the ball into the air repeatedly, so that U'll know which part will give U the strongest punch.
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Cool stuff! 9/10 Dec, I'll need to check my schedule, but it should be okay. I'll see, final paper is tomorrow. I'll love to see some of the drills. That would be useful.

@Caonpies:

If your hand hurts, it means you're going for a bad impact. Try using another side, like the side of the palm, or going two-fisted. That way your hands absorb and spread more of the impact, and its less painful that way.

Besides, don't attempt to punch a ball with the bony side of your hands / fingers.

If you still feel pain, maybe you can change the style from punching to parrying.
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hey guys...how to punch the ball without hurting ur hands?
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Are you playing using a bowling ball? blink.gif
Maybe you're not used to it probably. I think the best way is to get used to punching and probably u should do push up using ur knuckles(tae kwan do style)

QUOTE(tenno @ Nov 17 2006, 02:51 PM)
No la, unless we plan to give out certs & stuff. If we do it amongst ourselves, we dun need to do all that. Actually it's a good idea, maybe we can meet up at a field first, I can show U some drills, etc, then adjourn somewhere. How's that ? If mxxuang can't make it this month, then we can push it to around 9/10 December. How's that ?

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That would be great. I'm free on that date. Need to move my body after the exams

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ouch guys!
i had to hit Singapore at 8-10th! is it okay to meet up at 11th?

//sob sob


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Sorry, been away 20-22/11 for a course in Kuantan. If U work in govt, end of the year is usually a very busy month with courses, seminars, visits, etc, coz we need to finish our budget allocations. Will be away again 4-8 December in Malacca.

11th is Monday la, dun think it's possible. What if we do it earlier, maybe 2/3 Dec, or later, 16/17 December. The place I have in mind now is the public field in Bkt Jelutong, Shah Alam. The field is good enuf I guess. & after that, there are lotsa mamak in Shah Alam area we can have a drink after that.

So, let's decide when we want to do this. Not limited to forummers though, I guess U can bring along Ur friends as well, keepers preferably.
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QUOTE(tenno @ Nov 24 2006, 10:12 AM)
Sorry, been away 20-22/11 for a course in Kuantan. If U work in govt, end of the year is usually a very busy month with courses, seminars, visits, etc, coz we need to finish our budget allocations. Will be away again 4-8 December in Malacca.

11th is Monday la, dun think it's possible. What if we do it earlier, maybe 2/3 Dec, or later,  16/17 December. The place I have in mind now is the public field in Bkt Jelutong, Shah Alam. The field is good enuf I guess. & after that, there are lotsa mamak in Shah Alam area we can have a drink after that.

So, let's decide when we want to do this. Not limited to forummers though, I guess U can bring along Ur friends as well, keepers preferably.
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Oh, I know. I'm in the government sector too *shy shy*

16/17th then, I can be there =D
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lol
how about christmas time?
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ok,i book a air ticket to kl jz for the gathering..
lol,no la,juz joking,cant go,live in pg.. sad.gif
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only goalkeepers can go ar the gathering? if i wanna learn can go too??
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So, for the clinic cum gathering :

Tentative date : 16th (Saturday)/17th (Sunday) December 2006 (Pls decide whether U want it on Saturday or Sunday)
Location : Bkt Jelutong public field, Shah Alam
Time : 8.00 am
Note : Open to all (preferably keepers/would be keepers), bring along Ur glove collection. After the clinic we'll adjourn to nearby Mamak.


I met kcng and mxxuang last Saturday in Sports Planet Subang (aka Extreme park). I was there with my colleagues for a game. Nice to meet y'all.
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QUOTE(kenzo @ Nov 29 2006, 12:19 AM)
only goalkeepers can go ar the gathering? if i wanna learn can go too??
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if u bring the girl in your avatar, yes you can come
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lol... just come only..

QUOTE(tenno @ Nov 29 2006, 01:34 PM)
So, for the clinic cum gathering :

Tentative date : 16th (Saturday)/17th (Sunday) December 2006 (Pls decide whether U want it on Saturday or Sunday)
Location : Bkt Jelutong public field, Shah Alam
Time : 8.00 am
Note : Open to all (preferably keepers/would be keepers), bring along Ur glove collection. After the clinic we'll adjourn to nearby Mamak.


I met kcng and mxxuang last Saturday in Sports Planet Subang (aka Extreme park). I was there with my colleagues for a game. Nice to meet y'all.
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ah cool, bukit jelutong public field, nice nice, we can have a kickabout also....
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QUOTE(kenzo @ Nov 28 2006, 11:19 PM)
only goalkeepers can go ar the gathering? if i wanna learn can go too??
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Just come only..bring gf also can...

QUOTE(tenno @ Nov 29 2006, 12:34 PM)
So, for the clinic cum gathering :

Tentative date : 16th (Saturday)/17th (Sunday) December 2006 (Pls decide whether U want it on Saturday or Sunday)
Location : Bkt Jelutong public field, Shah Alam
Time : 8.00 am
Note : Open to all (preferably keepers/would be keepers), bring along Ur glove collection. After the clinic we'll adjourn to nearby Mamak.


I met kcng and mxxuang last Saturday in Sports Planet Subang (aka Extreme park). I was there with my colleagues for a game. Nice to meet y'all.
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Yah nice to meet you too..such a coincidence tongue.gif
I would prefer a sunday...coz usually i quite free that time..but if everyone wants it on the saturday I can make it too

QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 29 2006, 01:00 PM)
if u bring the girl in your avatar, yes you can come
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lol... just come only..
ah cool, bukit jelutong public field, nice nice, we can have a kickabout also....
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U coming? I tumpang you..I dunno the place whistling.gif

So is what is that gathering's agenda?

8.00am - Arrival of keepers and ice-breaking
8.59am - Arrival of kcng(always come late)
9.00am - Warming up session(including warm up techniques by keeper master tenno)
9.30am - basic goalkeeping techniques
10.00am- speech by kcng on "How Did I Let in 20 goals in a row without saving even one"
11.00am- Goalkeeping techniques during set pieces
12.00pm- Makan....


lol don't take it seriously la...hehehe...just made it for fun

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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 29 2006, 01:00 PM)
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That's Julie Hoi I believe. If U bring that girl, I'm sure the whole LY.net will come !!

Sunday or Saturday, we'll decide with a week to go I guess. If U have friends then do ask them to come along, it won't be fun if there are just 3-4 of us. Agenda we can decide on the spot.
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So how guys ? This Sunday ok ? 17/12, 7.30 am. Bkt Jelutong public field. Anybody dunno the way there ?

Can I have some numbers pls ? How many of U guys confirm coming ?
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Hmmm...I don't think i can make it this sunday...My penang trip has been brought forward...But don't take it as a reason for u to stop the gathering...go ahead with the plan.
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Wanna hear my exp.? one day, My keeper cant come to a friendly match, so, I need to replace him (ala2 John Terry lol). So, this guy we calld gerrard (lol) kick the damn ball from outside the box, hit my face kaw2, pass out for 2-3 minutes... sweat.gif My head like rclxub.gif already...

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Since there is a lack of response for this gathering/clinic, I'm calling it off. Maybe next time.
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I'm also a goalkeeper, represent my college, reserve team. Sometimes if you have mood, you can saves as many goals as you want. But sometimes it sucks. Be a keeper is a challenge post among all positions in the field.
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Clinic? sounds good

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QUOTE(M|cRo @ Dec 16 2006, 08:52 PM)
Clinic? sounds good
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Very sorry, I had to call it off coz of lack of response. If I wanna do it I'd wanna have more than 2 ppl, 5 would be better, more than 5 would be a bonus. But this is school holidays period & most of us had plans edi, so if anyone should decide we should have it & have enuff ppl, then I'd be glad to help.
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Can any1 tell me which is the best goalkeeper glove i can get between the price of 60 to 50 ringgit? Cause i just a poor student,hahaha
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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Jan 9 2007, 09:26 PM)
Can any1 tell me which is the best goalkeeper glove i can get between the price of 60 to 50 ringgit? Cause i just a poor student,hahaha
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There's Nike (forgot the model, RM55), Puma got a few models around RM30 - RM60, if U go to Al-Ikhsan there's Diadora (RM65). All are good gloves.
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why there no site that sell tis stuff? or no1 selling goalkeeper glove in this site?or is there? Cause i in sarawak so cant go to those place to buy, and in the city i living, even hard to find. Any pic of those glove tenno? Thank

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I doubt that there's any online sports store in Malaysia..

U can check out this site :

Pro Direct Soccer

Go to the keeper's tab.
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If i need goalkeeper glove how am i going to buy 1 cause i in Sarawak, any idea guys? Cause tis April will be the month that my school football team become active again.
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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Jan 10 2007, 06:55 PM)
If i need goalkeeper glove how am i going to buy 1 cause i in Sarawak, any idea guys? Cause tis April will be the month that my school football team become active again.
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in shopping complex don hv meh?

why paymore..royal sporting house..
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nope, allot of football equipment is expensive here in Sarawak, and somemore not that much to choose frm, specially goalkeeeper stuff
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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Jan 11 2007, 01:56 PM)
nope, allot of football equipment is expensive here in Sarawak, and somemore not that much to choose frm, specially goalkeeeper stuff
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Maybe U can ask Ur friends from Semenanjung to buy for U & mail it to U. Usually sporting outlets like those mentioned by williamlee carry at least some models. Nike shops normally have the ones within Ur budget.
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now that a probz, dnt hv friend in Semenanjung. the nike 1 is it good if in a surface that is abit wet that cause the football to wet abit?
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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Jan 11 2007, 02:31 PM)
now that a probz, dnt hv friend in Semenanjung. the nike 1 is it good if in a surface that is abit wet that cause the football to wet abit?
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I'm having difficulties understanding U, but I guess U want to know whether this is a wet-weather glove ?

In Malaysia there's rarely any weather specific models being sold (aqua models). Any glove can be used in any kind of weather actually, U just have to keep the palm damp. As for the amount of water needed to damp Ur glove, U have to test it Urself. My Nike Tiempo Pro seems to work best with lotsa water, with my Puma King SL I just have to put a little bit only. U really have to experiment.
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oya, is there any tread that got sell tis stuff? Or any1 thinking of openning 1, it will help alot for goalkeeper

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LOL... Goalie reminded me few weeks back a college match with LimKokWing 's college team made out of 80% nigga s and 10 % french 10 % local...

A african striker shot can actually manage to make the post vibrate for at least 4 seconds.... Futsal might be a easier of maing saves ( prepare for flame ) But during field match, if 1 v 1 situation, if u dun rush out 1st.. prepare to get dribble past or nutmeg ... it s harder to save long shots during field football match.

Field football is very much diff compare to futsal more physical. GET THE BALL OR THE GUY'S LEG XD

just my 2 cents

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if can any1 want to sell me a glove within the price of 50?And thx tenno, ya that wat i mean.

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Hello there, a newbie keeper here...just switched from RB to keeper ( at least for the moment) because of nobody wanting to be keeper in my team...


Any useful tips on how not to injure my self when diving and charging in 1-1 situations?


BTW, are Puma gloves good?I bought a pair, Puma Veneno gloves..coz it was cheap,only RM49.Are these good enough,coz i saw the v1.06 which are way more expensive
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Wah; didn't realise the GK thread was active. Lemme join; can kar? heh.

Fauxhawk,

As far as I remember; I assume you're talking 'bout field 'keeping, when charging in 1-1 situations; your body must form a "cup", sliding in to scoop the ball. Once the ball is in; you close the body to protect yourself.

Kinda hard to explain; but then again, I haven't played field GK for 'bout 8 years; ever since I tore my knee ligament playing. Stuck to Futsal since 2001, when I came out of "Retirement".

As for gloves; beats me, I don't normally wear one while playing futsal as I feel it spoils the technique; since one normally doesn't train for futsal and playing futsal is the only time you actually train.

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glozz, i've had the opportunity to play with tenno once at Astrodome. He's a pretty darn good keeper. Very experienced player.

tenno, when ya joining us again? We normally play every Saturday evening at Sports Planet Sunway.
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Judging from his posts; I would say so. Would be interesting to watch him in action. I'm sure lousy fella like me can learn something. heh.
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Halo. I'm also a goalkeeper. I play both field football and futsal. I've been a keeper since primary school some 15 years ago. I doubt my skills are good, but they're not bad either. My favourite goalkeeper is Bayern's captain Oliver Kahn.

I love playing in goal. They say it takes a nutter to even consider goalkeeping, and I guess it is true to a certain extent. I can't remember how many times I've been kicked in the face or had the wind knocked out of me. But over the years, the worst injuries I've had is broken wrists and twisted knee.
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Hi all,

Pretty good to see this topic revived again. I haven't been able to log in regularly since I'm now undergoing a 6-month, full residential course in Intan Bukit Kiara. But I can go home on the weekends though.

I'm the only keeper in the whole course (187 guys, 185 girls), so I feature in every friendly game that we have, & I'm also part of the football club. This morning during the training session I manage to slice some of my skin near my elbow during the penalty shoot outs (in which I saved 3). I didn't realize I was bleeding until the warm down time, the wrist strap on my Lotto G-Force was already red with blood.

Thanks Giotto for the compliments, I'm afraid I won't be able to join U guys until after July.

4 weeks into the course I managed to lose 4 kg edi, so right now I feel lighter. But I was down with a fever this early this week when I felt I'm coming into form nicely, so that bummed me a bit.

1 on 1 situation, my preference is to wait & see rather than go charging into the striker's feet. U only charge if U see that U can get to the ball first. If the striker have the advantage & U rush, chances are they will go around U, lob the ball above U or let U charge & try to earn a penalty. If, when charging U feel U can't get to the ball first, charge with your feet first to discourage the striker. My best bet is to wait & see & react to what the striker does.

Gloves, if possible go for soft latex gloves. Maybe U can check previous posts as I have posted some recommendations before.
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After playin keeper for this 3 weeks, i gotta take my hat off to you keepers out there...You guys must haf like a super hard mentality, know not the meaning of fear, or just plain crazy...bothmy elbows are bleeding from hitting the ground.any tips on how to land ?


BTW, was going through the older posts and saw mxxuang's sig... I'm in sunway university college now too biggrin.gif
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bothmy elbows are bleeding from hitting the ground.any tips on how to land ?
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If Ur landing on Ur elbows then I guess Ur landing the wrong way. Or Ur elbows in an incorrect position. Quite difficult to explain here, maybe U can find websites or watch EPL games & see how the goalies land after making each save.

Yesterday I had a futsal tournament in my course, my team ended up in a penalty shootout to decide 3/4th placing. The last kick of the oppsing team was taken by a rugby player, he hit the ball so hard directly at me, I was trying to avoid it rather than save it. The ball hit my hand somehow & it hurts like hell, I thought my wrist was broken. It didn't, but it still hurts & I had to keep in under wraps. Phew !! sweat.gif sweat.gif

Last week I tested one of Puma's new line (not so new actually), the Puma v3.06, costing RM159.90. It had terry cloth backhand, which is very useful if U play in hot conditions, & 4mm supersoft latex with grooves on the fingers. The latex was vey soft, indicating a potentially excellent quality glove. Maybe U guys can check it out when buying a new glove.

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i was tryin saving low shots but when i land, i tend to slide along on the sides of my elbows.. + the grass here is weird... feels plasticky
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tenno,

I had the same thing happen before. I played in a futsal friendly against some guys and one of them was an ex-malaysian u-21 football player with a ferocious shot. One of them dipped unexpectedly and I ended up with a weak wrist which would click when i move it.

You might want to check for clicking sounds first. I've been doing rehab on the wrist for about 6 months now and it seems better.

Fauxhawk,

You're probably scraping your elbow and dragging it across the grass. That's how the burns normally happen. The ideal technique is to skim across the surface and land. Try raising it slightly higher when you're pulling it across. Still happens to me sometimes when I'm not really concentrating.
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hi there newbie keeper here..according to my friends im one of the best keepers in futsal la... laugh.gif i was wondering how to not injure myself when a super hard shot comes at me cause i dont usually wear gloves..i like playing withouht gloves..
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I play without gloves as well. It's all about technique for shot stopping. For futsal; I find it especially useful to aim for the bottom of the ball using the hand in order to deflect the ball with minimum impact. Almost never attempt to absorb the shot direct using fingers as you'll probably end up injuring something.

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QUOTE(glozz @ Feb 25 2007, 09:44 PM)
I play without gloves as well. It's all about technique for shot stopping. For futsal; I find it especially useful to aim for the bottom of the ball using the hand in order to deflect the ball with minimum impact. Almost never attempt to absorb the shot direct using fingers as you'll probably end up injuring something.
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thats wht i always do..absorb the shot directly.. biggrin.gif
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Avoid using the fingers and use more of the palm if you're planning to absorb shots directly. For diving saves; try to deflect the ball from the bottom of the ball; or the top. Bottom works best.
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hey,i've been wondering, would wearin long sleeve shirts be any help to prevent the injuries at my elbows? I heard there were specialised long sleeved jerseys for keepers, but i don't know where to find them
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Ermm; if you mean the sleeved shirts with pads; They're called goalie jerseys or goalie tops. You can find them in Pertama complex or Al-ikhsan. They're quite hard to find in normal retail shops.

As for helping; obviously. Ultimately the perfect technique is to dive without skinning the elbows; achieved via skimming the surface and landing at one go rather than dragging the elbow through the surface; whereby the friction would tear the skin. But to cater for errors made, wear one since none of us have too much skin to shed and we all make mistakes. heh.

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QUOTE(FauxHawk @ Mar 5 2007, 10:05 PM)
hey,i've been wondering, would wearin long sleeve shirts be any help to prevent the injuries at my elbows? I heard there were specialised long sleeved jerseys for keepers, but i don't know where to find them
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No suck thing unless your wearing an plate mail from the 13th century. You most probably won't get an injury is you have streched well.
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Or practised good technique.
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QUOTE(glozz @ Mar 6 2007, 12:28 PM)
Ermm; if you mean the sleeved shirts with pads; They're called goalie jerseys or goalie tops. You can find them in Pertama complex or Al-ikhsan. They're quite hard to find in normal retail shops.

As for helping; obviously. Ultimately the perfect technique is to dive without skinning the elbows; achieved via skimming the surface and landing at one go rather than dragging the elbow through the surface; whereby the friction would tear the skin. But to cater for errors made, wear one since none of us have too much skin to shed and we all make mistakes. heh.
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Er..where is Permata Complex? oh, i think i'll go find at al-ikhsan smile.gif


The Al-Ikhsan at the Curve or BB plaza there got ar?

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full respect to you all...was once to be a keeper before...and hurt one of my finger(blocked shot)..after that change the position to right back.. smile.gif
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Oh; hitting a finger and bending the finger back is part and parcel of the learning process. Mine swelled up so many times the first couple of years I lost count how many times already.

My balls have been kicked, hit, stepped on (thankfully without studs), etc. so much it's become natural for me liao. Hopefully it doesn't affect my sperm count. tongue.gif

It's all a question of technique. Simply put; if it hurts, you're doing something wrong.

Pertama is near Sogo. Al-ikhsan in BB plaza will have a good range.

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Sometimes, I play as goally. My problem is with goal kicks. Cannot kick far. How to?
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Football or futsal?

Either-way; it doesn't matter. Most people would tell you just to brush up on your kicking power. I would say; work on your technique.

This will be abit hard to describe; but I'll try. I'm assuming you intend to goal-kick the ball to be meaningful for one of your teammates; and not just booting it for sheer power. Therefore; you should work on your ball chipping technique.

Ideally; use the instep of your feet and in ONE swooping technique; kick the ball using the instep at the lowest portion of the ball. This should give you a curvy cross. Not the most powerful; but keep developing this technique and if you want more power, start kicking a heavier ball to develop your power.

Kicking it this way should give you maximum height with minimum backlift. If the ball is not going high enough; adjust the power, or your kicking position.

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Sometimes, I play as goally. My problem is with goal kicks. Cannot kick far. How to?
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QUOTE(glozz @ Mar 7 2007, 04:39 PM)
Football or futsal?

Either-way; it doesn't matter. Most people would tell you just to brush up on your kicking power. I would say; work on your technique.

This will be abit hard to describe; but I'll try. I'm assuming you intend to goal-kick the ball to be meaningful for one of your teammates; and not just booting it for sheer power. Therefore; you should work on your ball chipping technique.

Ideally; use the instep of your feet and in ONE swooping technique; kick the ball using the instep at the lowest portion of the ball. This should give you a curvy cross. Not the most powerful; but keep developing this technique and if you want more power, start kicking a heavier ball to develop your power.

Kicking it this way should give you maximum height with minimum backlift. If the ball is not going high enough; adjust the power, or your kicking position.
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Your chipping techniques are going to be helpful not only for me, but for many others who are reading this. Thanks. I think I can't chip the ball because I intend to give a long pass to the strikers up agead, just like in EPL tongue.gif So how ar? Any exercises to increase kicking strength?
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QUOTE(the_registered @ Mar 8 2007, 07:59 PM)
Your chipping techniques are going to be helpful not only for me, but for many others who are reading this. Thanks. I think I can't chip the ball because I intend to give a long pass to the strikers up agead, just like in EPL  tongue.gif  So how ar? Any exercises to increase kicking strength?
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Currently I'm having this prob, can't kick very far & my goalkicks almost always will curve. I didn't have this prob before, just that after stopping (playing football) for almost 3 years, I seemed to forgot how to kick.

Recently I've solved this prob. My coach told me the key is Ur other leg (the one not used for kicking). It needs to be close to Ur kicking foot, about one and a half feet, or less. That will give U the power. If U see experienced keepers, they dun really have to kick hard, feet to ball contact is perfect.

Absorbing impact from shots Cushioning the ball is Ur elbow's job, very little should be passed to Ur wrists & fingers. That's why U should never attempt to catch direct shots with straight hands. I guess Lehmann is very good at catching these kinda shots, but I guess any experienced keeper shouldn't find it to be prob.
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Hmm; interesting. That would explain why sometimes I'm under-kicking the ball when I'm half asleep or not really concentrating. Will experiment with the foot position and check. Thanks.
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QUOTE(glozz @ Mar 9 2007, 09:44 AM)
Hmm; interesting. That would explain why sometimes I'm under-kicking the ball when I'm half asleep or not really concentrating. Will experiment with the foot position and check. Thanks.
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& another thing I forgot to mention is U have to have Ur eyes on the ball at all time when kicking.
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Oh; that's generally understood. I've been working on my dual-focus for widescreen awareness though.
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Do you all know where can I buy GK jersey????
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Injured my left ring finger...Now cannot bend my finger properly mad.gif
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QUOTE(Howard @ Mar 12 2007, 08:31 PM)
Do you all know where can I buy GK jersey????
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QUOTE(glozz @ Mar 6 2007, 12:28 PM)
Ermm; if you mean the sleeved shirts with pads; They're called goalie jerseys or goalie tops. You can find them in Pertama complex or Al-ikhsan. They're quite hard to find in normal retail shops.

As for helping; obviously. Ultimately the perfect technique is to dive without skinning the elbows; achieved via skimming the surface and landing at one go rather than dragging the elbow through the surface; whereby the friction would tear the skin. But to cater for errors made, wear one since none of us have too much skin to shed and we all make mistakes. heh.
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I'm gonna buy one too...soon.....
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Mar 12 2007, 09:22 PM)
Injured my left ring finger...Now cannot bend my finger properly  mad.gif
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How'd you injure it eh? Would suggest that you combine heat creams with ice packs for relief.



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Any good sports store/shop should have at least one model. The difference is if u go to places like Nike Store or RSH, U'll only find branded ones, usually expensive. Go to Pertama complex, or any small shops & U can fidn cheaper ones, usually less than RM40. Or else U could just look for long-sleeved jersey, the paddings (usually on the elbows and shoulders) are not really that useful. Up to one's preference. I've stopped using goalkeepers jersey since 1998, I always use short sleeved jerseys, but I do have one long sleeve jersey for really cold games in the rain.

To prevent fingers from getting injured, especially in futsal games, tape Ur fingers. U can use athletic tapes, or normal thin surgical tapes (about RM4 per roll). U can also tape (or use elastic braces) for Ur wrists. Those expensive elastic finger guards are just for show only, tape is better.
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i'm quite a good goalie,but my only problem is...I CAN'T DIVE.....dunno why,phobia and scared of diving,have this feeling i'm gonna break a few bones in my body by doing a dive
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It's all in your head. By practising good technique; you minimise impact. To me though; you seem to be scared of the ball.
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..BB plaza's al-ikhsan no more Gk jerseys already...


and i can dive, but only to my right.. can't seem to get myself to dive to the left,just doesn't feel normal to me...is it cause i'm right handed?

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QUOTE(seruzz2003 @ Mar 15 2007, 07:14 PM)
i'm quite a good goalie,but my only problem is...I CAN'T DIVE.....dunno why,phobia and scared of diving,have this feeling i'm gonna break a few bones in my body by doing a dive
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QUOTE(FauxHawk @ Mar 16 2007, 06:21 PM)
..BB plaza's al-ikhsan no more Gk jerseys already...
and i can dive, but only to my right.. can't seem to get myself to dive to the left,just doesn't feel normal to me...is it cause i'm right handed?
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You're more reluctant to dive to the right side? Yeah common problem, I have this same problem too...Can you pros help us? I'm also has the tendency to dive to the right.
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Actually; I used to have the same problem last time. I believe it's all in your head. But try to practise diving more to your weaker side during trainings and check your positions. If you're prone to diving a certain way; the body positioning would be the first to go.

I'm currently working on my 1-on-1 blocks on my weaker side. So; it's always a work-in-progress with the mind.
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I've been playing as goalie for the whole life.. Started to play when i was 10 years old. I remember the sweet memories of being in goal while playing with mateds that was in form 5 while i was in standard 6. One time, there was a penalty and this dude whacked the ball direct to me and hit my stomach. Sweet..

Fingers getting sprained, knees and elbows feeling sore.. That's the package of being a goalie.. But the satisfaction u get when u are able to perform an acrobatic save, and your mates are in awe.. is priceless..

Being a goalie, u need to have very very good reflexes. Meaning u know what to do instantly in a fraction of seconds. U shouldn't think about what to do, but u should know what u should do... It all comes to practise. Things that you should bare in mind...

1. Positioning. The best is to be the center of the post. If an attack is coming from left side for example, make sure you face to the left and try to close the angle. Don't be too close to the goal line, try to be in front a bit.. If you are too close near the line, it is difficult to save a high or low attempt from the opponent, sometimes..

2. When you want to make a save, just throw yourself. Don't worry about you, but be careful la!

3. If an opponent kicks a ball and it is flying high, best is to push it out to the side or up. Doing this will make you look good and awesome (like Schmeichel usually does) but be careful when doing it.

4. If there is a high ball, 50-50 ball.. the best is for you to catch it. But judge it wisely...

5. When there is an attempt or one by one, throw yourself to the ground (slide) and make sure your stomach is facing the ball..

U cannot play in goal for 1-2 years and become so good afterwards. It takes time and practise.. and patience also. Because it's 25% physical and 75% psychology.
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I think there's a fundemantal thing to being a goalkeeper that's not discussed much:

2 things:

1. Keep IT Simple.
2. Keep IT tidy and practise good technique.
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QUOTE(tenno @ Mar 15 2007, 11:07 AM)
To prevent fingers from getting injured, especially in futsal games, tape Ur fingers. U can use athletic tapes, or normal thin surgical tapes (about RM4 per roll). U can also tape (or use elastic braces) for Ur wrists. Those expensive elastic finger guards are just for show only, tape is better.
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A noob question, but how do you tape ur fingers? shud it be really tight, or loose?


Would be nice for some one to post a tutorial on how tongue.gif (seeing how i dun understand how and all)
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A noob question, but how do you tape ur fingers? shud it be really tight, or loose?
Would be nice for some one to post a tutorial on how tongue.gif (seeing how i dun understand how and all)
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It should be easy. Don't tape it too hard or else you can't bend or grab properly. It's just some extra protection but still you can get injured if you don't play properly or bad luck
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Updated: March 26, 2007

Italy call up De Sanctis as cover for Buffon


ROME, March 26 (Reuters) - Udinese goalkeeper Morgan De Sanctis was added to Italy's squad for their Euro 2008 qualifier against Scotland as their first-choice keeper Gianluigi Buffon struggled to recover from a stomach upset on Monday.
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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Mar 25 2007, 10:34 PM)
It should be easy. Don't tape it too hard or else you can't bend or grab properly. It's just some extra protection but still you can get injured if you don't play properly or bad luck
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Sounds like a fun way to was finger hair. biggrin.gif
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Sounds like a fun way to was finger hair.  biggrin.gif
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Use surgical tape U can easily find in pharmacies, costs around RM4-5. U tape it around the fingers' joints, to make it stiff. It's very useful in preventing injuries.
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Hmm; learn something new. Though I haven't injured my fingers in god knows how long. Touch wood though. hehe.

If only I can use that for my other injuries though.
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Today's my first official game as a keeper... Wish me luck XD

Would update how many thousand goals i let in later tongue.gif


UPdate - 3 matches, 2 goals conceded sad.gif only 1 clean sheet sad.gif

( We won though tongue.gif Haf to applaud my team,any keeper would feel secured behind them,holding up the ball like for forever,and knocking goals for fun so i haf less pressure )

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er.
y i get scratches all over my kneee and elbows.
does that hafta do with the surface?
coz my house there one the grass is not so padat,so got lil bit of sand lidat.

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Hi, good to see a dedicated thread for GK. normally GK job is not as glamorous as midfielder and striker. and more often than not, we landed in that position because no one else wants it. that was the case for me.

to me GK is really not so glamorous. normally ppl won't remember the fantastics saves you made but instead remember the blunders you made that caused your team to lose. on the other hand, if strikers missed the simplest opportunity to score they will be easily forgotten and the goals they scored will be remembered and sometimes recorded as well.

my first official game (a friendly with ref and linesman) was a success. kept a clean sheet but was tainted with blunders like holding the ball the more than 6 secs and touched an obvious outgoing ball that ended in a corner. and didn't know how to organize a wall. after that i refused many invitations because couldn't stand the pressure.


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y i get scratches all over my kneee and elbows.
does that hafta do with the surface?
coz my house there one the grass is not so padat,so got lil bit of sand lidat.
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QUOTE(waile @ Apr 15 2007, 10:39 PM)
Hi, good to see a dedicated thread for GK. normally GK job is not as glamorous as midfielder and striker. and more often than not, we landed in that position because no one else wants it. that was the case for me.

to me GK is really not so glamorous. normally ppl won't remember the fantastics saves you made but instead remember the blunders you made that caused your team to lose. on the other hand, if strikers missed the simplest opportunity to score they will be easily forgotten and the goals they scored will be remembered and sometimes recorded as well.
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i lucky i guess, i didn't have do anything for the whole match while we were 2-1 up,and suddenly at the last 5 minutes, i get to save 2 crackshots, i get applauded like i save the match or sumthing.

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y i get scratches all over my kneee and elbows.
does that hafta do with the surface?
coz my house there one the grass is not so padat,so got lil bit of sand lidat.


Superficial wounds are normal larr. Comes with the territory. Especially on sand. However, practising good technique can limit the scratches; but won't eliminate it. I still get it sometimes; especially when i'm half asleep. Anyway, the key to the technique is to land at one go rather than dragging your body across the surface. Therefore; you're supposed to skim like a stone across a pond and land. Simple enough? biggrin.gif

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Hi, good to see a dedicated thread for GK. normally GK job is not as glamorous as midfielder and striker. and more often than not, we landed in that position because no one else wants it. that was the case for me.

to me GK is really not so glamorous. normally ppl won't remember the fantastics saves you made but instead remember the blunders you made that caused your team to lose. on the other hand, if strikers missed the simplest opportunity to score they will be easily forgotten and the goals they scored will be remembered and sometimes recorded as well.

my first official game (a friendly with ref and linesman) was a success. kept a clean sheet but was tainted with blunders like holding the ball the more than 6 secs and touched an obvious outgoing ball that ended in a corner. and didn't know how to organize a wall. after that i refused many invitations because couldn't stand the pressure.


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i lucky i guess, i didn't have do anything for the whole match while we were 2-1 up,and suddenly at the last 5 minutes, i get to save 2 crackshots, i get applauded like i save the match or sumthing.


The thing about playing as a keeper is that you don't get many chances to redeem yourself as compared to other outfield players. As such, any mistake will be obvious. The key is to be able to maintain your concentration at all times; even though your team is leading 6-0 all the way. Remember, the ball is round. You never know what can happen.

True; playing as GK is a unrewarding (most of the time) task. However, playing as a GK can teach you alot of lessons about yourself and life in general. If you can handle the stress that comes with being a GK; chances are, you'll be better prepared for the difficulties of life as well.

It's all in the mind. If you need to build up your confidence playing as a GK and having to do so many things; do more training by playing monkey with the ball at your feet. This will help you think faster as well as improve your ball control and decision making.
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ya know, when the team is leading 1-0, i feel even more scared, scared i conceded and lose the lead sad.gif. And if leading by 1 goal before the end,even worse, worried sampai mau mati ...Ball i not scared, wat i'm afraid is i conceded goal
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Same here lol...if play tourney, sure get a bit nervous and jittery when your team is leading by a single goal difference. It's a test of character.

The satisfaction of saving a goal-bound shot is no less than the satisfaction of a striker scoring a wonderous goal. Unbelievable feel; sometimes ill punch the air or scream when i make a good save. Then, your teammates will come and mob you, saying "Good job, you saved us"

That's the truly reward of becoming a goalkeeper. smile.gif
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my GK role started seriously only 2-3 years back when i got my 1st pair of contact lense. i really regret for not getting it much earlier. realized how much "fun" i've missed.

don't have much match experience and therefore always feel tense at the start of a game until i get the first touch of the ball. the worst thing that could happen to a GK is the first touch is to pick up the ball from the net. i only feel relaxed when my team is at least 2 up.

the worst game i had was my team lost 0-3 and 2 goals were from my mistake. the pitch was in bad shape after rain and there was a ankle deep pool of water in front of the goalmouth and it was in morning. am not offering excuse but i really sucked that day

i still enjoy being a striker especially when no offside rules, can curi ayam mah

and yes my goal kick sucks. at times i can throw further than i kick.
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Haha,my goal kick max can reach is just almost the midfield,unless i wan to overstretch my leg muscles la. i can't throw, punt it can la tongue.gif
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Reach midfield consider ok d la. Some goalkeepers' goalkick really invite opponent's strikers to come and steal only.
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QUOTE(waile @ Apr 20 2007, 09:43 AM)
my GK role started seriously only 2-3 years back when i got my 1st pair of contact lense. i really regret for not getting it much earlier. realized how much "fun" i've missed.

don't have much match experience and therefore always feel tense at the start of a game until i get the first touch of the ball. the worst thing that could  happen to a GK is the first touch is to pick up the ball from the net. i only feel relaxed when my team is at least 2 up.

the worst game i had was my team lost 0-3 and 2 goals were from my mistake. the pitch was in bad shape after rain and there was a ankle deep pool of water in front of the goalmouth and it was in morning. am not offering excuse but i really sucked that day

i still enjoy being a striker especially when no offside rules, can curi ayam mah

and yes my goal kick sucks. at times i can throw further than i kick.
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Contact lense? Can use it when playing football? My vision have been a problem started 2 year ago, so now sometime make stupid blunder. If contact lense can be use, it be good for me.

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yeah.i am a contact lens wearer since std 4 and i have wore them for playing sports.basically, its safer than spectacles and there wont be any problems.
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Where do you buy those contact lenses ? Are they special sports-purposed lenses ? Usually i play, i just main tikam estimate even though the ball was quite blur at times.
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I play with specs cool2.gif (coz i'm too kiamsap to get contacts,cos the optician says my contacts would haf to be special kind because of sum eye condition)
Dangerous i know, just the risk i haf to take for my attitude
When play match, just take rafia string tie to my head tongue.gif Yes, i'm that kiamsap... CHEAPO FTW!

*note- So far i lucky, specs haven't pecah tongue.gif

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QUOTE(FauxHawk @ Apr 22 2007, 03:57 PM)
I play with specs  cool2.gif (coz i'm too kiamsap to get contacts,cos the optician says my contacts would haf to be special kind because of sum eye condition)
Dangerous i know, just the risk i haf to take for my attitude
When play match, just take rafia string tie to my head tongue.gif Yes, i'm that kiamsap... CHEAPO FTW!

*note- So far i lucky, specs haven't pecah tongue.gif
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U can play with the normal contact lenses available from any optometrists. I've played with lenses since 1999, & only once I've had it came outta my eyes. Last month, when I played in the rain.Even then it was my fault initially,cause I had the lenses inside out. Other than that, it was perfectly safe.

Yesterday I had a game againts Sabah FC, very robust, fast players. During a one-on-one ball the attacking player had his knee or boots to my head, ended up with a good size lump on my forehead. Heheh... I only played the first half, was 0-0 when I left. Had to go back early.
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nonono, my eyes has some very high astigmatism thingy..( sang kong in canto) the contacts had to be special marked kinds... sad.gif
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QUOTE(FauxHawk @ Apr 23 2007, 08:11 PM)
nonono, my eyes has some very high astigmatism thingy..( sang kong in canto) the contacts had to be special marked kinds... sad.gif
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Hmmm...I too had astig...but not really that serious(yet). But kinda problematic when playing at night especially when you're facing the light...But in my case I still can afford to take of my specs and play...
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if i take off specs play, can't focus on ball sad.gif everything goes blur altogether ( i got shortsightness like kao kao)
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I heard the contact glass can break while playing football because too rough, is that true?
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nah, contact lenses are not glass nowadays ( or i think it isn't) worse case ever i've seen with my friends who wear contacts are the lens getting stuck on the eye lid after i blast him in the head from the back...other than freak accidents, i havent heard of contacts pecah-ing
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I heard the contact glass can break while playing football because too rough, is that true?
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Nah i dont think soo...but losing contact's while playing that will be a problem....
cuz i got a fren who uses contact's while playin and at the end of the game the contact's doesnt break...but losing is the problem he always face..hhehe brows.gif
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nowadays contact lenses are soft lenses, won't shatter in your eyes. the worst thing that could happen is dust/sand goes into ur eyes. i've high astig too and it has to be custom ordered. a bit more expensive. 6 pairs would cost about Rm250. as i only wear for sports 1 pair could last me 2 months.

for those who are shortsighted, try it and feel difference. after i started wearing contacts, i earned callups for friendlies. before that couldn't judge ball properly especially playing in the evening. at times when i was already dark i just raised my hand hoping the ball will hit my hand.
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QUOTE(waile @ Apr 25 2007, 07:57 AM)
nowadays contact lenses are soft lenses, won't shatter in your eyes. the worst thing that could happen is dust/sand goes into ur eyes. i've high astig too and it has to be custom ordered. a bit more expensive. 6 pairs would cost about Rm250. as i only wear for sports 1 pair could last me 2 months.

for those who are shortsighted, try it and feel difference. after i started wearing contacts, i earned callups for friendlies. before that couldn't judge ball properly especially playing in the evening. at times when i was already dark i just raised my hand hoping the ball will hit my hand.
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Teh munniiizzzzz....I want to spend that money on buyin futsal shoes tongue.gif
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Speaking about shoes, do you fellow goalkeepers invest on high quality shoes? For me I don't...in fact I think I invested more on gloves rather than shoes. When I buy my shoes I insist on the durability, in fact I prefer those stitched sole because it's durable. Oh yeah comfort is also important...Never spend much on shoes...

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For me...Cheapest tongue.gif and comfortable tongue.gif

Currently wearin Umbro boots, which costs RM70 on sale about...2 years ago biggrin.gif .. couldn't find a name on the boots, but found weird letterings that say

M O GOAL AI KTK FG .....It doesn't make sense 11111!!11.,when i bought it, i didn't bother bout the name tongue.gif, just picked up random boots, and this was the most comfortable.
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Apr 25 2007, 07:42 PM)
Speaking about shoes, do you fellow goalkeepers invest on high quality shoes? For me I don't...in fact I think I invested more on gloves rather than shoes. When I buy my shoes I insist on the durability, in fact I prefer those stitched sole because it's durable. Oh yeah comfort is also important...Never spend much on shoes...
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Both are equally important, but maybe for goalies U dun have to go for those all fancy2 boots, although I know some keepers (who aren't sponsored) uses fancy boots like Puma v1.06/3.06, Lotto Zhero G, etc. I guess if U have the money then it's okay.

I've been using my Adidas Salvador SG for almost 2 years now, & I've already had it stitched twice. I dun think it can survive a third stitching. My other boot, Umbro Bronze SSG (6 studs) are strictly for muddy pitches or really good pitches only. I always buy past-season stuff, outdated designs but really good boots. Example, my Adidas Salvador was RM499, but I bought it for RM99.00 only. I guess after this I'm going for the Nike Total 90 in Sunway Pyramid, used to cost RM600++, now it's less than RM200. That's my way of saving money la.

Gloves, I always go for the best I can afford, currently I have 4 pairs, going for another 2 pair (Adidas Fingersave E4S, and Puma's v3.06).
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I got 1 pair of gloves, and it's wearin out coz i always land on my gloves to cushion the fall...


Btw, my 2 year old but faithful boots

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I went to Al-Ikhsan Sunway Pyramid today and I saw this really cool Nike Total 90 Classic which is almost all black except for some red lines and the nike logo. It has black palm which is almost similiar to Paul Robinson's gloves when he use during the world cup. It's kinda cool ya know...

And a new line of Adidas shoes came in too, one of them is the new Adidas Predator design which is almost all black too...Kinda cool if you wore that gloves and that shoes together with an all black clothes...will try get the photo and show you guys
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Apr 30 2007, 09:52 PM)
I went to Al-Ikhsan Sunway Pyramid today and I saw this really cool Nike Total 90 Classic which is almost all black except for some red lines and the nike logo. It has black palm which is almost similiar to Paul Robinson's gloves when he use during the world cup. It's kinda cool ya know...

And a new line of Adidas shoes came in too, one of them is the new Adidas Predator design which is almost all black too...Kinda cool if you wore that gloves and that shoes together with an all black clothes...will try get the photo and show you guys
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All black huh ? Just make sure Ur not playing in the sun with an all black outfit ok tongue.gif tongue.gif

Almost all my outfit are blue, blue jersey, shorts, socks, shinpads, even boots. However I do have different color jerseys & I always bring at least 2 jerseys to every match, just in case the opposing team is wearing the same color.

I've seen the T90 classic, there are 2 colorways, another one is blue/white. I guess if Ur playing futsal it's a good choice, it'll also make a great training gloves. I think it's around RM79.90.

A better bet would be the new Tiempo Grips (or Tiempo Match). The cost has gone up a bit, now it's RM119, used to be RM110. Nothing much changed from the original Tiempos, except for new cosmetics. The palm remained the same, 3mm supersoft. I saw Penang's Super League reserve keeper using the T90 Spyne (with finger protection), wonder where he got those. & I'd also love to see the one Lehmann & Valdes using now in Malaysian stores (dun put much hope though).

If U go to Al-Ikhsan, look for Lotto's Neo-concept. It's Petr Cech's previous gloves, excellent glove for around RM70. It's really a bargain.

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Hmmm..speaking about Lotto gloves...I'm currently using this Lotto Cross Elite. It cost RM69 at Al Ikhsan, and I could daresay for it's price it's quite good and durable. It offers excellent wrist protection, and the palm surface is durable too.
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And the nike T-90 classic.
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And I just couldn't resist getting the T-90 classic. I would say, it's the most comfortable gloves i've worn so far.(my first Nike gloves). The bad side is the cleaning part though, since it's all black I wouldn't know how dirty it actually is tongue.gif
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i wan the t-90 classic O.O. looks cool O.O

eh, i see wrinkles on the grip part... is it all gloves also got the wrinkly-ness ar coz mine also liddat? izzit because of too often being squashed? ( i like punching the ball when training biggrin.gif )
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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Apr 25 2007, 07:42 PM)
Speaking about shoes, do you fellow goalkeepers invest on high quality shoes? For me I don't...in fact I think I invested more on gloves rather than shoes. When I buy my shoes I insist on the durability, in fact I prefer those stitched sole because it's durable. Oh yeah comfort is also important...Never spend much on shoes...
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Actually mx, I noticed that your kicking needs some work; if you don't mind me saying so. Futsal goalies do alot more than just goal tending. There's a higher dependency on the goalie to be able to switch play to attack than in field football.

Therefore; ensure the shoes you wear can help develop your technique as what you do with the ball is as important as the saves you make. I had some pretty nice shoes that I wore out very fast. But it offered terrific feel with the ball.
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QUOTE(glozz @ May 5 2007, 10:18 PM)
Actually mx, I noticed that your kicking needs some work; if you don't mind me saying so. Futsal goalies do alot more than just goal tending. There's a higher dependency on the goalie to be able to switch play to attack than in field football.
Very true. I entered my first futsal tourney on Saturday, & I learned how a keeper can help in starting attacks. I think there was only one occasion when I had to kick the ball, the rest I started attacks by throwing.

I saw the Adidas Fingersave Replique E5S the other day, & it made me feel that I'm ready to give Fingersave series a try. I guess I have to wait for any sale before I can buy it, RM219.90 is quite a lot to pay, more so for a replique model. I just feel kinda curious to try Adidas foams.
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Well, can anyone recommend me some good and durable gloves for Futsal?

I'm those gungho goalkeeper who goes for anything, thus I chirp my gloves every single time I play sad.gif

(If only I can show you my current gloves, you'll cry for them)
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jun 1 2007, 04:07 PM)
Well, can anyone recommend me some good and durable gloves for Futsal?

I'm those gungho goalkeeper who goes for anything, thus I chirp my gloves every single time I play sad.gif

(If only I can show you my current gloves, you'll cry for them)
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In your case I guess U can just buy any cheap ones out there. Becoz for futsal U dun need to catch that much, so basically U just need protection. Or maybe U can those gloves with FPS (finger protection system), cheap ones costs around RM80, brand is Line 7.
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Ok thanks biggrin.gif

Becasue currently I'm using the 120 bucks Adidas ones, pain everytime I see it chirp sad.gif
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Any location to buy gloves? I haven't been particularly impressed with the product range I've seen so far. Thanks.
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Any location to buy gloves? I haven't been particularly impressed with the product range I've seen so far. Thanks.
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Al-Ikhsan at BB Plaza sells loads of gloves. Not only at BB Plaza but at other branches such as in Penang, Shah Alam, Sunway Piramid etc. Nike gloves you can get as cheap as RM50 something. Same goes as other brands like Umbro and Lotto.

The difference is the quality of the latex foam used. Better gloves have more thicker latex foam and better grip. Adidas seems to sell gloves that are too pricey. I can get a cheaper Nike gloves compared to Adidas. But to me the best gloves are always the brands that are dedicated to goalkeepers such as Reusch and Uhlsport.
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is this thread still alive?
i'm a futsal goalkeeper..last time play field goalkeeper during schooldays..
now only futsal...
i want to find a new pair of glove..currently using Puma cheap glove..rm20 only..the palm surface is like pingpong bat surface...no grip at all..but its ok to protect the hands...
now finding a better glove...not too expensive..my budget is below rm80..
aiming the nike total 90 classic black glove...is it has a good grip n protection?
n any other glove to recommend?
thanks

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wooo, Bart Białkowski saves Poland u-20 against Korea biggrin.gif
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i'm a futsal keeper here, playing quite regularly at sports planet sunway...

been getting bruises here n there most of the time haha...

i wonder tenno the thread starter will share some tips, or even coach me for good n free...
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I recently saw a pair that have it's fingertips cut off, I think it's a futsal goalkeeper gloves.

What is the difference? Let me see if I can get some pictures biggrin.gif

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nike also got 1 which is quite similar, but the color is much nicer... it says futsal gloves...
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Yes, it is futsal gloves, I just wanna know what is the difference because it seems abit dangerous having the tips open, seeing I've injured my fingertips a few times saving a shot.
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To be honest; I don't see the point of those gloves. You might as well just not be wearing gloves. Would give you better feel of the ball.
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No go, some of my friends have broken fingers or painful palms from not using gloves.

And if you have played with gloves all these while, you'll find having no gloves actually impair your performance, not enhance it.
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^thats so true... u wont give ur 100% if u dun wear gloves...
i nv injured my fingers... sometimes my wrist hurt abit so i bought wrist guard... when i first started, ball always hit my balls...
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post Jul 10 2007, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jul 10 2007, 12:50 AM)
No go, some of my friends have broken fingers or painful palms from not using gloves.

And if you have played with gloves all these while, you'll find having no gloves actually impair your performance, not enhance it.
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But having gloves with open fingers is not going to help with anything; so why even bother wearing it? Furthermore; they're not exactly cheaper than the normal ones.

To be honest; most goalie keeping training at the early stage involves bare hands. It's important to get the technique right before gloves are worn; so as not to be dependant on them. Broken fingers and painful palms are normally the effect of bad hand technique; or bad luck. Correction of hand techniques early would ultimately reduce these occurences.

Injuries happen even with gloves. If you find yourself playing worse without gloves on; you probably need to re-examine your hand technique. Without proper hand technique; gloves are worthless. Very easy test; wet the ball and try to have a firm grasp on the ball with your bare hands while swinging your hands as if to throw it away and see how well the ball clings on. That would give you an indication of how effective is your catching technique.

Gloves are just a supplement and a tool. It's not meant to replace technique. I myself just bought a T90 Spyne Pro for matchday uses; after playing futsal(minimum once a week) for almost 6 years now without wearing gloves. Still waiting for my first match to test it out. biggrin.gif

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post Jul 10 2007, 02:33 PM

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meaning that u dun like to wear gloves or u dun wan to wear gloves when ur playing now? if yes, i salute u, u have strong hands n brave...
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post Jul 10 2007, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(glozz @ Jul 10 2007, 09:56 AM)
But having gloves with open fingers is not going to help with anything; so why even bother wearing it? Furthermore; they're not exactly cheaper than the normal ones.
I apologise if I've missed something as I'm just going to jump right into this one. I used to play keeper for Sports Unlimited and had the pleasure of training with our ex-international keeper, Zaidi. From what I know, some Futsal keepers choose to have have glove with open fingers to give them better control of the ball when throwing it. At the same time, the glove still helps to absorb impact when the ball hits your palms. This is my understanding as to why some keepers prefer open fingered gloves.
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post Jul 10 2007, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 10 2007, 02:41 PM)
I apologise if I've missed something as I'm just going to jump right into this one. I used to play keeper for Sports Unlimited and had the pleasure of training with our ex-international keeper, Zaidi. From what I know, some Futsal keepers choose to have have glove with open fingers to give them better control of the ball when throwing it. At the same time, the glove still helps to absorb impact when the ball hits your palms. This is my understanding as to why some keepers prefer open fingered gloves.
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Understand and must have been fun eh. However; open palm gloves are "neither here nor there" kind of gloves. Absorption's just so-so while hand protection's minimal if compared to a full glove. However; I can understand why some goalkeepers prefer open fingered gloves; normally because they're used to bare-handed playing and some tournamets force goalies to have gloves. Which is why my opinion is formed based on that; if you can play bare-handed, using a open palm glove is not going to be much of a difference nor offer more protection. At the end of the day though; it's an individual's choice and opinion.


Added on July 10, 2007, 9:47 pm
QUOTE(KrazyChinaman @ Jul 10 2007, 02:33 PM)
meaning that u dun like to wear gloves or u dun wan to wear gloves when ur playing now? if yes, i salute u, u have strong hands n brave...
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Playing futsal; I've not worn gloves since I've started. Only wore gloves when joined tournaments which force goalies to have gloves; which i borrowed from opposing team goalies. tongue.gif

Just recently purchased some gloves for match days for more serious tournaments. However; I still don't wear when training or playing for fun. Thus; haven't worn it yet. tongue.gif

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post Jul 10 2007, 11:57 PM

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The grip of a bare hand is always definitely better compared to a glove in what I've come to discover, but nothing compares to the shock absorption that gloves can give.

I found out that those Fingerless gloves are mainly used for those playing using a soft surface ball, where the power and sting of the ball definitely will decrease, thus not only you can afford to use such gloves, but also fingerless will help increase the grip on such surfaces.

But I guess it won't help me since we're mostly still using leather type ones, I've not encountered more than few games where soft surface has been used as sadly, Malaysians still rank power ahead of skill, even in futsal.

And I have to agree that if you have a good foundation, playing bare hand shouldn't cost much problem, but once you have made one too many fingertips save... gloves seem to be a lovely accessory to have tongue.gif

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