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post Feb 4 2007, 08:22 PM

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Wah; didn't realise the GK thread was active. Lemme join; can kar? heh.

Fauxhawk,

As far as I remember; I assume you're talking 'bout field 'keeping, when charging in 1-1 situations; your body must form a "cup", sliding in to scoop the ball. Once the ball is in; you close the body to protect yourself.

Kinda hard to explain; but then again, I haven't played field GK for 'bout 8 years; ever since I tore my knee ligament playing. Stuck to Futsal since 2001, when I came out of "Retirement".

As for gloves; beats me, I don't normally wear one while playing futsal as I feel it spoils the technique; since one normally doesn't train for futsal and playing futsal is the only time you actually train.

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post Feb 4 2007, 08:58 PM

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Judging from his posts; I would say so. Would be interesting to watch him in action. I'm sure lousy fella like me can learn something. heh.
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post Feb 25 2007, 06:49 PM

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tenno,

I had the same thing happen before. I played in a futsal friendly against some guys and one of them was an ex-malaysian u-21 football player with a ferocious shot. One of them dipped unexpectedly and I ended up with a weak wrist which would click when i move it.

You might want to check for clicking sounds first. I've been doing rehab on the wrist for about 6 months now and it seems better.

Fauxhawk,

You're probably scraping your elbow and dragging it across the grass. That's how the burns normally happen. The ideal technique is to skim across the surface and land. Try raising it slightly higher when you're pulling it across. Still happens to me sometimes when I'm not really concentrating.
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post Feb 25 2007, 09:44 PM

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I play without gloves as well. It's all about technique for shot stopping. For futsal; I find it especially useful to aim for the bottom of the ball using the hand in order to deflect the ball with minimum impact. Almost never attempt to absorb the shot direct using fingers as you'll probably end up injuring something.

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post Feb 26 2007, 05:43 PM

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Avoid using the fingers and use more of the palm if you're planning to absorb shots directly. For diving saves; try to deflect the ball from the bottom of the ball; or the top. Bottom works best.
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post Mar 6 2007, 12:28 PM

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Ermm; if you mean the sleeved shirts with pads; They're called goalie jerseys or goalie tops. You can find them in Pertama complex or Al-ikhsan. They're quite hard to find in normal retail shops.

As for helping; obviously. Ultimately the perfect technique is to dive without skinning the elbows; achieved via skimming the surface and landing at one go rather than dragging the elbow through the surface; whereby the friction would tear the skin. But to cater for errors made, wear one since none of us have too much skin to shed and we all make mistakes. heh.

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post Mar 6 2007, 12:49 PM

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Or practised good technique.
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post Mar 6 2007, 08:38 PM

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Oh; hitting a finger and bending the finger back is part and parcel of the learning process. Mine swelled up so many times the first couple of years I lost count how many times already.

My balls have been kicked, hit, stepped on (thankfully without studs), etc. so much it's become natural for me liao. Hopefully it doesn't affect my sperm count. tongue.gif

It's all a question of technique. Simply put; if it hurts, you're doing something wrong.

Pertama is near Sogo. Al-ikhsan in BB plaza will have a good range.

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post Mar 7 2007, 04:39 PM

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Football or futsal?

Either-way; it doesn't matter. Most people would tell you just to brush up on your kicking power. I would say; work on your technique.

This will be abit hard to describe; but I'll try. I'm assuming you intend to goal-kick the ball to be meaningful for one of your teammates; and not just booting it for sheer power. Therefore; you should work on your ball chipping technique.

Ideally; use the instep of your feet and in ONE swooping technique; kick the ball using the instep at the lowest portion of the ball. This should give you a curvy cross. Not the most powerful; but keep developing this technique and if you want more power, start kicking a heavier ball to develop your power.

Kicking it this way should give you maximum height with minimum backlift. If the ball is not going high enough; adjust the power, or your kicking position.

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post Mar 9 2007, 09:44 AM

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Hmm; interesting. That would explain why sometimes I'm under-kicking the ball when I'm half asleep or not really concentrating. Will experiment with the foot position and check. Thanks.
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post Mar 9 2007, 11:49 AM

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Oh; that's generally understood. I've been working on my dual-focus for widescreen awareness though.
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post Mar 13 2007, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Mar 12 2007, 09:22 PM)
Injured my left ring finger...Now cannot bend my finger properly  mad.gif
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How'd you injure it eh? Would suggest that you combine heat creams with ice packs for relief.



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post Mar 15 2007, 07:17 PM

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It's all in your head. By practising good technique; you minimise impact. To me though; you seem to be scared of the ball.
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post Mar 17 2007, 01:41 PM

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Actually; I used to have the same problem last time. I believe it's all in your head. But try to practise diving more to your weaker side during trainings and check your positions. If you're prone to diving a certain way; the body positioning would be the first to go.

I'm currently working on my 1-on-1 blocks on my weaker side. So; it's always a work-in-progress with the mind.
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post Mar 23 2007, 03:03 PM

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I think there's a fundemantal thing to being a goalkeeper that's not discussed much:

2 things:

1. Keep IT Simple.
2. Keep IT tidy and practise good technique.
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post Apr 1 2007, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Mar 25 2007, 10:34 PM)
It should be easy. Don't tape it too hard or else you can't bend or grab properly. It's just some extra protection but still you can get injured if you don't play properly or bad luck
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Sounds like a fun way to was finger hair. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 2 2007, 12:30 PM

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Hmm; learn something new. Though I haven't injured my fingers in god knows how long. Touch wood though. hehe.

If only I can use that for my other injuries though.
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post Apr 18 2007, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE
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y i get scratches all over my kneee and elbows.
does that hafta do with the surface?
coz my house there one the grass is not so padat,so got lil bit of sand lidat.


Superficial wounds are normal larr. Comes with the territory. Especially on sand. However, practising good technique can limit the scratches; but won't eliminate it. I still get it sometimes; especially when i'm half asleep. Anyway, the key to the technique is to land at one go rather than dragging your body across the surface. Therefore; you're supposed to skim like a stone across a pond and land. Simple enough? biggrin.gif

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Hi, good to see a dedicated thread for GK. normally GK job is not as glamorous as midfielder and striker. and more often than not, we landed in that position because no one else wants it. that was the case for me.

to me GK is really not so glamorous. normally ppl won't remember the fantastics saves you made but instead remember the blunders you made that caused your team to lose. on the other hand, if strikers missed the simplest opportunity to score they will be easily forgotten and the goals they scored will be remembered and sometimes recorded as well.

my first official game (a friendly with ref and linesman) was a success. kept a clean sheet but was tainted with blunders like holding the ball the more than 6 secs and touched an obvious outgoing ball that ended in a corner. and didn't know how to organize a wall. after that i refused many invitations because couldn't stand the pressure.


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i lucky i guess, i didn't have do anything for the whole match while we were 2-1 up,and suddenly at the last 5 minutes, i get to save 2 crackshots, i get applauded like i save the match or sumthing.


The thing about playing as a keeper is that you don't get many chances to redeem yourself as compared to other outfield players. As such, any mistake will be obvious. The key is to be able to maintain your concentration at all times; even though your team is leading 6-0 all the way. Remember, the ball is round. You never know what can happen.

True; playing as GK is a unrewarding (most of the time) task. However, playing as a GK can teach you alot of lessons about yourself and life in general. If you can handle the stress that comes with being a GK; chances are, you'll be better prepared for the difficulties of life as well.

It's all in the mind. If you need to build up your confidence playing as a GK and having to do so many things; do more training by playing monkey with the ball at your feet. This will help you think faster as well as improve your ball control and decision making.
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post May 5 2007, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Apr 25 2007, 07:42 PM)
Speaking about shoes, do you fellow goalkeepers invest on high quality shoes? For me I don't...in fact I think I invested more on gloves rather than shoes. When I buy my shoes I insist on the durability, in fact I prefer those stitched sole because it's durable. Oh yeah comfort is also important...Never spend much on shoes...
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Actually mx, I noticed that your kicking needs some work; if you don't mind me saying so. Futsal goalies do alot more than just goal tending. There's a higher dependency on the goalie to be able to switch play to attack than in field football.

Therefore; ensure the shoes you wear can help develop your technique as what you do with the ball is as important as the saves you make. I had some pretty nice shoes that I wore out very fast. But it offered terrific feel with the ball.
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post Jun 24 2007, 12:27 AM

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Any location to buy gloves? I haven't been particularly impressed with the product range I've seen so far. Thanks.

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