is it true that the postpaid call rates is higher than prepaid?
prepaid - 18sen/min to all
postpaid - 20sen/min to other telco
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Sep 27 2013, 12:28 AM
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is it true that the postpaid call rates is higher than prepaid?
prepaid - 18sen/min to all postpaid - 20sen/min to other telco |
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Sep 27 2013, 05:58 AM
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Sep 27 2013, 01:35 PM
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6,265 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: UEP Subang Jaya |
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Sep 27 2013, 03:23 PM
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Sep 27 2013, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Sep 27 2013, 03:23 PM) "It is in addition to that"(postpaid users = price of prepaid users + 6% service tax), I think that probably that you've misunderstood my wording in a way or two Dude, you are right. Coz the prepaid charging is included 6% but not postpaid. Every postpaid plan has 6% charge extra for call and sms exclude pure data plan.So, prepaid charge should be more expensive than postpaid charge as it includes tax This post has been edited by prosibu: Sep 27 2013, 06:30 PM |
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Sep 27 2013, 06:28 PM
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Sep 28 2013, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Sep 27 2013, 03:23 PM) "It is in addition to that"(postpaid users = price of prepaid users + 6% service tax), I think that probably that you've misunderstood my wording in a way or two QUOTE(prosibu @ Sep 27 2013, 06:27 PM) Dude, you are right. Coz the prepaid charging is included 6% but not postpaid. Every postpaid plan has 6% charge extra for call and sms exclude pure data plan. I think you're both confused.So, prepaid charge should be more expensive than postpaid charge as it includes tax Prepaid you pay RM0.18 per minute. That's it. Of course, effectively could be cheaper cos you can get 15% off reload etc. etc. but we ignore that. Postpaid you get charged (not pay) RM0.20 per minute. AFTER that, you get taxed. So if you make 5 minutes of call in the month, you get charged RM1. Then you get taxed. So you pay RM1.06. Effectively, you GET CHARGED RM0.20 per minute but you PAY RM0.21. As to why? Different market segment, treated differently. Postpaid sure pay more than prepaid, as digilife said, prepaid more benefit. Of course, I'm primarily a data user and need overseas roaming so I don't mind using postpaid. Still cheaper than anything else except the lousy-coverage digi. |
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Sep 28 2013, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Sep 28 2013, 09:13 PM) I think you're both confused. I "am" talking about the same thing Prepaid you pay RM0.18 per minute. That's it. Of course, effectively could be cheaper cos you can get 15% off reload etc. etc. but we ignore that. Postpaid you get charged (not pay) RM0.20 per minute. AFTER that, you get taxed. So if you make 5 minutes of call in the month, you get charged RM1. Then you get taxed. So you pay RM1.06. Effectively, you GET CHARGED RM0.20 per minute but you PAY RM0.21. As to why? Different market segment, treated differently. Postpaid sure pay more than prepaid, as digilife said, prepaid more benefit. Of course, I'm primarily a data user and need overseas roaming so I don't mind using postpaid. Still cheaper than anything else except the lousy-coverage digi. meanwhile, for prosibu, he may have worded it a bit wrongly, but at least you get the idea. As for the why the 6% tax is charged, I would say that your reasoning is wrong, as prepaid users don't need to pay for it because our telco subsidies it. Source: http://www.thestar.com.my/story.aspx?file=...7457&sec=nation |
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Sep 28 2013, 11:31 PM
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The different rates are nothing to do with service tax, and everything to do with business.
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Sep 29 2013, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(dgboy @ Sep 28 2013, 11:31 PM) well, you can't say there's no relation to it at all though, since if there's service tax and the telco needs to absorb the tax then it means that they'll earn less for postpaid plans so in return they'll have to charge more in order to earn the same or even higher amount of profit as compared to the prepaid plans(but of course, the telco may give you other addon or benefits to make it more worthwhile) |
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Sep 30 2013, 07:10 AM
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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Sep 29 2013, 12:10 AM) well, you can't say there's no relation to it at all though, since if there's service tax and the telco needs to absorb the tax then it means that they'll earn less for postpaid plans so in return they'll have to charge more in order to earn the same or even higher amount of profit as compared to the prepaid plans(but of course, the telco may give you other addon or benefits to make it more worthwhile) You claim they absorb for prepaid meaning they'll earn less for postpaid? Do you read your post ah? |
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Sep 30 2013, 08:14 AM
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any deadspots in KL & Selangor vicinity??
dunno y, but everytime travelling towards Sunway pass the "mini jambatan pulau pinang" it seems there is no connection.. |
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Sep 30 2013, 01:23 PM
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For termination of plan, need to go to their store for termination. Cannot do it via phone call. Suck
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Sep 30 2013, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Sep 30 2013, 07:10 AM) considering that the amount of subscribers are both the same, and the profit before tax is the same, then yeah. Since if the profit is the same for both plans before tax, and if the telco absorbed the 6% tax then the profit for postpaid will be less than prepaid per se. |
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Oct 1 2013, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Sep 30 2013, 07:57 PM) considering that the amount of subscribers are both the same, and the profit before tax is the same, then yeah. Since if the profit is the same for both plans before tax, and if the telco absorbed the 6% tax then the profit for postpaid will be less than prepaid per se. You're not making sense. How does telco absorbing for prepaid make postpaid less profitable? If profit before tax is same, then after absorbing 6% profit for prepaid will be less than that of postpaid. |
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Oct 1 2013, 09:20 AM
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Enough la... No need gaduh prepaid should br charged more or what, you don't like, u can opt for prepaid too
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Oct 1 2013, 10:05 AM
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Oct 1 2013, 10:07 AM
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Oct 1 2013, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Oct 1 2013, 09:05 AM) You're not making sense. How does telco absorbing for prepaid make postpaid less profitable? Profit for prepaid will be lesser. sorry If profit before tax is same, then after absorbing 6% profit for prepaid will be less than that of postpaid. |
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Oct 1 2013, 10:24 AM
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