at the end of the day, just drive what you have for now. slowly venture into NA modding path to know more about how your car actually works. you want turbo power? advisable to get a turbo car to start with. unless you have the money, time and passion with commitment to BOT your forte and visit your workshop frequently for the first one two months at least to troubleshoot possible minor problems from the BOT and tuning and other parts that indirectly work with your BOT forte. if yes, by all means go ahead with your BOT project. you may call up ppl like Nightstalker1993 to meet up and intro you some trusted workshop to discuss and have a rough idea on your BOT project before proceed. do some homework your own and with some proper ppl to know where you should be heading. 

But I gotta say this about Proton. They have one of the most advanced car manufacturing plants in the world. True fact. The only reason why they build things the way they do is cost effectiveness, cost savings and cronyism.

Like I said.. he plays it well and he knows it.. there is nothing for us to pick on. I don't see him insulting another member's mother's private parts.. that's more of a /k reply than anything else. Can't pick on that for we are not exactly the 'moral' police here.

Sell off your forte i would suggest if you still love your life. I and my cousin already sold off our kia 6at version.
Full of problem.. Really regretted bought this car. My cousin almost flew out from windscreen lucky got safety belt protecting him. His car airbag didnt deployed when involved in accident with a toyota vios. His car front side all gone , leg stucked inside and steering on his body.. Cant imagine how kia designed forte actually. My forte, since bought, the car dashboard full of noise, complaint at SC but still persist.. Then before reached 10k milleage, engine keep dying. One morning suddenly cant start up, towed back to SC, after a month only collect my car. Using less than 20k, engine cant start up again! Really lousy car, i and my cousin really regret bought this korean car.. Should follow parent advise go for japanese cars.. My father toyota camry also never had this problem.. 2008 until now.. About 6 years already. Hope my SA faster deliver my honda city.. Really tired because of this lousy car.. Traded in to used car dealer only worth RM41k.. Used 1 year + only... Biggest regret..

you register a new account just to say forte's airbag not deployed? 

Sell off your forte i would suggest if you still love your life. I and my cousin already sold off our kia 6at version.
Full of problem.. Really regretted bought this car. My cousin almost flew out from windscreen lucky got safety belt protecting him. His car airbag didnt deployed when involved in accident with a toyota vios. His car front side all gone , leg stucked inside and steering on his body.. Cant imagine how kia designed forte actually. My forte, since bought, the car dashboard full of noise, complaint at SC but still persist.. Then before reached 10k milleage, engine keep dying. One morning suddenly cant start up, towed back to SC, after a month only collect my car. Using less than 20k, engine cant start up again! Really lousy car, i and my cousin really regret bought this korean car.. Should follow parent advise go for japanese cars.. My father toyota camry also never had this problem.. 2008 until now.. About 6 years already. Hope my SA faster deliver my honda city.. Really tired because of this lousy car.. Traded in to used car dealer only worth RM41k.. Used 1 year + only... Biggest regret..

wow, at least my crappy proton wajunk, gentut and inspira belong to my younger siblings are hassle free. service and normal maintenance only. well, heard many complains from friend about their Kia or Hyundai too, be it new or old. and who claim Forte resale value was good? take a look in mudah.my or motortrader. 2011 Forte 1.6 going for 60k only that if u r lucky. lol.

Hey guys, I am finding all this really interesting. Didn't know it would last this long and generate into a turbo discussion thread.

No, I have not gone invisible, I have been reading through.

But I urge you fellas to maintain the peace and civility - if you disagree, just agree to disagree. This thread has generate so much knowledge for me and other guys here. I just don't want it to turn into a warzone.

To sleepwalker: This can be a legendary thread? Wow, I am honored.

So how? Want me to close thread or let thread wither?

Sell off your forte i would suggest if you still love your life. I and my cousin already sold off our kia 6at version.
Full of problem.. Really regretted bought this car. My cousin almost flew out from windscreen lucky got safety belt protecting him. His car airbag didnt deployed when involved in accident with a toyota vios. His car front side all gone , leg stucked inside and steering on his body.. Cant imagine how kia designed forte actually. My forte, since bought, the car dashboard full of noise, complaint at SC but still persist.. Then before reached 10k milleage, engine keep dying. One morning suddenly cant start up, towed back to SC, after a month only collect my car. Using less than 20k, engine cant start up again! Really lousy car, i and my cousin really regret bought this korean car.. Should follow parent advise go for japanese cars.. My father toyota camry also never had this problem.. 2008 until now.. About 6 years already. Hope my SA faster deliver my honda city.. Really tired because of this lousy car.. Traded in to used car dealer only worth RM41k.. Used 1 year + only... Biggest regret..

again i repeat, do not put words into my mouth moron! i never trap or influence anyone to mod or tune up their cars without worries!

yea, they have degree, no confidence in their workmanship? dont send your brand new rides to their official service centres then. their workmanship sux too. send your bloody rides oversea back to their HQ in their country to service lar. confirm good workmanship.

Sell off your forte i would suggest if you still love your life. I and my cousin already sold off our kia 6at version.
Full of problem.. Really regretted bought this car. My cousin almost flew out from windscreen lucky got safety belt protecting him. His car airbag didnt deployed when involved in accident with a toyota vios. His car front side all gone , leg stucked inside and steering on his body.. Cant imagine how kia designed forte actually. My forte, since bought, the car dashboard full of noise, complaint at SC but still persist.. Then before reached 10k milleage, engine keep dying. One morning suddenly cant start up, towed back to SC, after a month only collect my car. Using less than 20k, engine cant start up again! Really lousy car, i and my cousin really regret bought this korean car.. Should follow parent advise go for japanese cars.. My father toyota camry also never had this problem.. 2008 until now.. About 6 years already. Hope my SA faster deliver my honda city.. Really tired because of this lousy car.. Traded in to used car dealer only worth RM41k.. Used 1 year + only... Biggest regret..

Ok guys and TS pls control the thread and dont feed the fuel to this Dinosaur.....  anyway i found something in wiki

Those workshop friends of you have Degree in Automotive, not in material engineering or moulding engineering. They are only limited to whatever aftermarket tools they can get. FYI, they don't have the resources nor ability to mould air intake themselves. They still turn to those shiny metal tubes with so big diameter to replace the ori air intake of their customers.

Those workshop friends of you have Degree in Automotive, not in material engineering or moulding engineering. They are only limited to whatever aftermarket tools they can get. FYI, they don't have the resources nor ability to mould air intake themselves. They still turn to those shiny metal tubes with so big diameter to replace the ori air intake of their customers.

Example, standard turbocharged variant Pug308THP from carmaker:
output 156ps@6000rpm
torque 240Nm@1400rpm
FC 9km/L

If you have non-turbo Pug308 1.6L NA engine getting 160NM torque fitted with turbocharger with their custom made ECU, piping, exhaust, etc. If you tuned to 156ps, most likely, your torque will not be anywhere close to 240Nm and your FC will not be as good as the 9km/L, yours could end up more fuel guzzling, even heavier.

talk like you are an expert

I doubt you know what pressure means and what purpose it serves in combustion engine. You don't know anything don't go and influence others to install turbo without consideration. You'll end up causing him killing the engine early and also causing him dearly should FC goes too high and his car lost resale value. Having wiring messed up could hardly get proper wireman to fix. Most of them can't fix, just to keep the electrical part barely functioning.

Yes, I owned and also maintained proper turbocharged engines and they come together with the SUVs, pickup trucks and cars. They were well made by Engineers that work for R&D in the respective brands, Ford, Hyundai, MMC, Toyota, Pug, etc.

Definitely not any Ah Beng with trial and error background that mod car like they think look like Need For Speed Underground or Fast & Furious means very good. They don't even know what pressure is. All they do, quote you custom ECU + intercooler + self made steel piping with style (not proper pressure calculation), normal wastegate turbocharger (prone to much lag), and have the diagnostic like machine to tell how much to boost. That's all. Nothing else, just tune according to how much the customer wanted. Then change large noisy & polluting exhaust. Final artwork, a car that would need to rev harder to move. Low end torque failed one.

He is just making a fool of himself honestly
Dunno what's the problem with him,keep on bashing aftermarket stuff
Must be one of those people who just plain want OEM stuff for no good reason